Mens ICC Cricket World Cup, India 2023.

[dedja]

It’s finally over, great match.

[dedja]

Zampa can stop shitting himself now.

Credit where credit’s due, the Saffers never gave up, with some clean fielding they could have pulled off a miracle.

For the Aussies, there isn’t enough Spakfilla to fill the cracks for Sunday.

Congrats to India as the 2023 ICC World Cup Champions.

[Lightning McQueen]

Wasn’t expecting Smith to leave it up to others. Horrible shot after all that hard work. 1 wicket away from being in real trouble now.

With a healthy strike rate of 48!

[RB]

Zampa can stop shitting himself now.

Credit where credit’s due, the Saffers never gave up, with some clean fielding they could have pulled off a miracle.

For the Aussies, there isn’t enough Spakfilla to fill the cracks for Sunday.

Congrats to India as the 2023 ICC World Cup Champions.

India go in as favourites but anything can happen in a limited overs game. Additionally, India are probably under more pressure than Australia.

My biggest concern is that we'll need 9 or 10 overs each from Cummins, Starc and Zampa and at least 7 or 8 will have to be darn good ones. But it's hard to see Cummins and Zampa not getting seriously smacked around by the Indians on yesterday's evidence, and Starc - well, it's a lottery as to where he's going to bowl.

[Lightning McQueen]

Zampa can stop shitting himself now.

Credit where credit’s due, the Saffers never gave up, with some clean fielding they could have pulled off a miracle.

For the Aussies, there isn’t enough Spakfilla to fill the cracks for Sunday.

Congrats to India as the 2023 ICC World Cup Champions.

India go in as favourites but anything can happen in a limited overs game. Additionally, India are probably under more pressure than Australia.

My biggest concern is that we'll need 9 or 10 overs each from Cummins, Starc and Zampa and at least 7 or 8 will have to be darn good ones. But it's hard to see Cummins and Zampa not getting seriously smacked around by the Indians on yesterday's evidence, and Starc - well, it's a lottery as to where he's going to bowl.

Same deal with the bat, we need Head, Warner, Marsh or Maxwell to go Downtown, 215 ain’t gonna cut it against India.

[gadj1976]

Zampa can stop shitting himself now.

Credit where credit’s due, the Saffers never gave up, with some clean fielding they could have pulled off a miracle.

For the Aussies, there isn’t enough Spakfilla to fill the cracks for Sunday.

Congrats to India as the 2023 ICC World Cup Champions.

India go in as favourites but anything can happen in a limited overs game. Additionally, India are probably under more pressure than Australia.

My biggest concern is that we'll need 9 or 10 overs each from Cummins, Starc and Zampa and at least 7 or 8 will have to be darn good ones. But it's hard to see Cummins and Zampa not getting seriously smacked around by the Indians on yesterday's evidence, and Starc - well, it's a lottery as to where he's going to bowl.

Same deal with the bat, we need Head, Warner, Marsh or Maxwell to go Downtown, 215 ain’t gonna cut it against India.

Agree with everything said. We're a good ordinary side. Just happen to be a bit better than the rest of the pack. But that pitch wasn't really conducive of a big score. On the pitch on Sunday, I'd suggest a bigger score on a better pitch by both sides.

[Lightning McQueen]

Agree with everything said. We're a good ordinary side. Just happen to be a bit better than the rest of the pack. But that pitch wasn't really conducive of a big score. On the pitch on Sunday, I'd suggest a bigger score on a better pitch by both sides.

That’s a fair analysis too, we’re the best of a bad lot, having said that, you watch one of our players turn it on big time and single-handedly beat the Indians, my moneys on it being Trav.

Going against the grain here but I’d probably bring in Stoinis for Smith and possibly swap keepers, both incoming players would be champing at the bit as pre tournament they were amongst the first few picked.

It’s going to be a 350+ final so we need all the firepower we have, we’re not scoring that if Smith and Lab occupy the crease for too long, gotta go all out.

[The Bedge]

Going against the grain here but I’d probably bring in Stoinis for Smith and possibly swap keepers

Stoinis for Labuschange.

If we could fit in an extra bat somewhere would be handy, but can't see it.

We need to bat deep - India will have one of two pitches - it'll either be slow and low, or it'll be hard and flat so their top 6 can go to work.

They'll want to hit 400.

[David Brent]

On the theory that the Aussies could be a tad cooked.

If you compare the side to the England one taking part in the world cup given they both played in the Ashes series and then limited overs cricket afterwards.

Last nights Aussie side had 7 blokes who participated in playing tests in the Ashes series plus you could add Carey to make 8.

England on the other hand only have the 3 blokes.

Something in it?

Narrator..... "There was not something in this"

[David Brent]

The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...

Couldn't agree more.

Obviously, none of us know the true answer but from perspective it appears that whilst Langer had flaws he also was very well prepared, had the team play with an edge and had extremely high standards.

Some of that seems to have been lost in recent times. As you said they seem to lack intent, they don't seem to have great plans and it comes across as if they are being coached by a mate who has somewhat let the standards slip.

Some of these posts from start of the tournament are classic now looking back. Ron's got this team a step further than JL could in the last world cup in conditions that don't suit us at all.

Pull of a miracle on Sunday & this generations cements themselves as one of our best ever.

I've said it before but we wont know how good it was having Josh Hazlewood till he's gone. Dead set star.

[dedja]

One thing to take into account was that the pitch and conditions in Kolkata last night are high unlikely to be repeated in the final.

The pitch must have sweated like a pig in the lead up, noting that both captains were going to bat first, atmosphere like a soup with the lights on all match. It swung like anything with lots of bounce early, then out of nowhere started to spin square.

Selection for the final will be difficult, Head, Inglis and Starc (both bat and ball) in particular stood tall, but apart from Warner, the rest of the so called recognised batters were fragile. Smith was shaky early, he composed himself with Inglis to do all the hard work to bring it home then had one of the biggest brain fades of the tournament. Maxwell and Marsh are either red hot or merde, and Marnus wasn’t up to it last night with the bat, but his fielding saved many runs.

Does Stoinis deserve to replace anyone? Marnus or Smith?

Hazlewood and Starc were exceptional with the ball, could not fathom how Hazlewood wasn’t allowed to bowl his full 10. Maxwell did a great job bogging down one end. Head turned the match back after the Saffers were gaining some momentum, and Cummins recovered after a poor start. Zampa couldn’t capitalise on the conditions and got smacked around the park, but has been great all tournament.

Also, fielding was exceptional from everyone.

Any changes here? Don’t know that you can.

I was being flippant earlier about declaring India the winner before the final, but we would have to play out of our skins with no passengers to have a hope, and whilst I’d love to see it happen, India have been the better team.

That said, pressure does funny things.

[am Bays]

The bigger issue is the coachong/managing of the side

we look confused off field - selections
on field - tactics, intent (lack of)
in the contest - shot selections, balls bowled, dropped catches

Ronald needs to go back to catching the Burgerlar...

Couldn't agree more.

Obviously, none of us know the true answer but from perspective it appears that whilst Langer had flaws he also was very well prepared, had the team play with an edge and had extremely high standards.

Some of that seems to have been lost in recent times. As you said they seem to lack intent, they don't seem to have great plans and it comes across as if they are being coached by a mate who has somewhat let the standards slip.

Some of these posts from start of the tournament are classic now looking back. Ron's got this team a step further than JL could in the last world cup in conditions that don't suit us at all.

Pull of a miracle on Sunday & this generations cements themselves as one of our best ever.

I've said it before but we wont know how good it was having Josh Hazlewood till he's gone. Dead set star.

Sand by what I posted at the time

We've got by a lot as others have pointed out on freelance cricket or individual brilliance. Maxys innings as the primary evidence.

What I will admit is that as the wins have come the confidence has risen and that has been exemplified in the fielding which is massively improved thanks to Marnus who is a barometer int eh field.

However Bottom line is India are still spewing from 1987 when us and the Poms ruined the fatewell party for Sunny Havaskar (in best richie voice) and Kapil

They made sure they didnt f*** up Sachins farewell in 2011 and they will want to make sure Virat gets the farewell they think he deserves..

Everything ahs to go right for us to win, India are the more complete one-day side at the minute.

[Dinglinga75]

Would you rather go Stonis or Green ...

[The Bedge]

Would you rather go Stonis or Green ...

Stoinis for me.

[Armchair expert]

Smith to 3

Marsh to 4

Marnus to 5


Stoinis/Green is no upgrade on Marnus as Pat wont bowl them anyway.

[Armchair expert]

Wasn’t expecting Smith to leave it up to others. Horrible shot after all that hard work. 1 wicket away from being in real trouble now.

With a healthy strike rate of 48!

Strike rate was irrelevant last night he just had to stay out there

[northerner]

Would you rather go Stonis or Green ...

If it comes to bringing in am all-rounder I would go with Abbott. Better bowler than both Stoinis and Green and can bat better than many give him credit for.

[Lightning McQueen]

Wasn’t expecting Smith to leave it up to others. Horrible shot after all that hard work. 1 wicket away from being in real trouble now.

With a healthy strike rate of 48!

Strike rate was irrelevant last night he just had to stay out there

And he didn’t.

[Aerie]

Wasn’t expecting Smith to leave it up to others. Horrible shot after all that hard work. 1 wicket away from being in real trouble now.

With a healthy strike rate of 48!

Strike rate was irrelevant last night he just had to stay out there

And he didn’t.

His 30 was still crucial though. He came in when the score was 62 and left at 174. Had we had any other player outside the XI playing instead of Smith last night, we would have lost.

Leave the team the same. It is clearly the best XI. Green is out of form unfortunately. Stoinis will never stand up in a big game. Abbott and Carey are just spares.

Bat first and hope 2 of Warner/Head/Marsh get going and we're a big chance.

India have dominated everything before them and go in massive favourites, but this Aussie team seems to find a way.

[mal]

Zampa can stop shitting himself now.

Credit where credit’s due, the Saffers never gave up, with some clean fielding they could have pulled off a miracle.

For the Aussies, there isn’t enough Spakfilla to fill the cracks for Sunday.

Congrats to India as the 2023 ICC World Cup Champions.

Zampa gets a chance to become leading wicket taker in the tournament in the World Cup Final
Shami is one in front of Zampa
Thayt also means Zampa is currently the leading wicket taking spinner in the tournament