Ashes 2023

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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby the star » Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:54 am

Kahuna wrote:For anyone who can be bothered searching, it has just been mentioned on the radio that Bairstow tried a similar stumping dismissal on Labushagne day 4 when he was 7. Hypocrite, thy name is Johnny.


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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:14 am

BROAD: That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen
Really Stuart, really
You don’t remember hitting one to slip and not walking?
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:27 am

So if the ball is dead when it the keeper takes it cleanly, "stolen" byes like we often see in the white ball games are no longer permissible?

FWIW, seen the de Grandehomme dismissal and have no problems with that. The fielder had a legitimate ping at the stumps in the course of the live ball action, and, again, it is something we see numerous times every Test.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:28 am

Jim05 wrote:BROAD: That’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen
Really Stuart, really
You don’t remember hitting one to slip and not walking?


Hope he had the same conversation to Johnny about that the day before…
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby stan » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:28 am

I didn't like it at all, however how many times has a keeper binged a ball at thr stumps after collecting it in the hope of running out the batsmen?

Pretty much all the time.

So I still don't like it however the response from the English has been a next level disgrace and honestly I hope this happens again to the English.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:36 am

stan wrote:I didn't like it at all, however how many times has a keeper binged a ball at thr stumps after collecting it in the hope of running out the batsmen?

Pretty much all the time.

So I still don't like it however the response from the English has been a next level disgrace and honestly I hope this happens again to the English.


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I don’t like it either.
But the rules are the rules and until they change it, it’s out.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:42 am

:lol:

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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:46 am

Booney wrote::lol:

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They play for PAOC don’t they?
I swear I’ve seen their names on their team sheets
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Jim05 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:51 am

Booney wrote::lol:

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Are those names real or something out of a English pantomime.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby locky801 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:13 am

And the English coach has also done the same

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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:22 am

locky801 wrote:And the English coach has also done the same

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cricke ... beUigp3XAY


To be fair, McCullum has said regrets very much, and subsequently in later years did a lot to turn around the way NZ went about their cricket and public persona.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:43 am

No issue with it.

Get off Bairstow
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Brodlach » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:45 am

I fail to see the difference of if Carey was up at the stumps and took the bails off or throwing the ball?

Bairstow made no attempt to get in his crease and was stumped. It’s a basic part of the game.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby MW » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:46 am

As always, the fanatics from each side will defend their side no matter what happens...
The pub test says it was not in the spirit, I didnt like it when it happened. Is it out? Yep. Same applies for Starc not out decision, should have been given out but wasn't.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby Brodlach » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:49 am

I would have no issue if an Australian was run out that way. It’s dumb cricket
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby RB » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:52 am

MW wrote:The pub test says it was not in the spirit


Do you mean because he wasn't attempting a run?
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby whufc » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:55 am

amber_fluid wrote:
stan wrote:I didn't like it at all, however how many times has a keeper binged a ball at thr stumps after collecting it in the hope of running out the batsmen?

Pretty much all the time.

So I still don't like it however the response from the English has been a next level disgrace and honestly I hope this happens again to the English.


I’m with you.
I don’t like it either.
But the rules are the rules and until they change it, it’s out.


Agree... i didnt like it but i also didnt like the Starc catch decision either.

However, the rules are the rules so both were the correct decisions.

I half blame the umpire who had already started walking to square leg and had pretty much unclipped Greens hat. Surely if that's his movements he should have called over first.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby whufc » Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:57 am

If the rules need to be changed it would be pretty simple.

For a batsman to be given out he needs to be gaining either a batting advantage or attempting a run. That would cover both batsmen running down the wickets to gain an advantage in their shot and being stumped and would cover the obvious run out dismissal.
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby The Bedge » Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:00 pm

whufc wrote:If the rules need to be changed it would be pretty simple.

For a batsman to be given out he needs to be gaining either a batting advantage or attempting a run. That would cover both batsmen running down the wickets to gain an advantage in their shot and being stumped and would cover the obvious run out dismissal.

So may as well remove stumping dismissals for batsmen whose back foot lifts or are dragged out. :roll:
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Re: Ashes 2023

Postby MW » Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:00 pm

RB wrote:
MW wrote:The pub test says it was not in the spirit


Do you mean because he wasn't attempting a run?


Yep, not gaining an advantage
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