Lightning McQueen wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Oh man
I've seen someone saying what a courageous innings it was.
Sorry, but Deano has him covered by the length of the straight
Deano lost 8 kgs that innings.
Yep.
There just isn't a comparison.
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:27 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Oh man
I've seen someone saying what a courageous innings it was.
Sorry, but Deano has him covered by the length of the straight
Deano lost 8 kgs that innings.
by The Dark Knight » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:32 pm
Hector wrote:de Kock retired citing family reasons in December last year with his wife close to giving birth to their first child.The Dark Knight wrote:batmanbegins wrote:LaughingKookaburra wrote:[quote="Brodlach"]When the Test calendar was set out almost a decade ago I doubt many would have thought South Africa would have dropped so far.
Too many players are focusing on the “easier” dollars of the T20. Currently there are at least three T20 tournaments being played with good money being paid, I would guess more than they would get to play Test cricket
Dunno if I totally agree with that. Their current scenario is clearly short sighted management of their Test line up and not blooding new players at the right times. When all these recent blokes retired they then replaced them all at once with inexperienced players that are just getting fed to the wolves. The West Indies have a better batting lineup than this mob.
Doesn't help de cock quit on them to get the cash. Then Markram just hasn't lived up to the hype since 2018 and there best bat last year in Peterson is out hurt.
Like you said Markham has struggled for awhile now hence him not being on this tour and losing Petersen was a big loss as he'd just established himself at number three.
I agree with LK, SA had an absolute golden generation having one of the best teams world cricket will ever see and when they all eventually retired one after another in a relatively short space of time it was also going to be tough to replace them. The quota system makes things tricky for them too obviously, it just so happened that their players of colour that were apart of their great teams- Amla, Ninti and Philander were absolute world class cricketers plus guys like Duminy and Prince were solid international cricketers too. Now it's really only Rabada who is world class.
On Jarrod Kimber's podcast channel 99.94 there's a South African podcast featuring SA journalist Neil Manthorp who is currently on ABC Grandstand commentating and him and his co-host Lungani Zama have discussed all the things mentioned in the previous posts. The money topic continually comes up on the Podcast and the money offered by the T20 competitions is substantially more than what SA cricket pays their test cricketers. The fact that the South African first class teams only play seven games in a season is continually a talking point aswell.
I'm not sure how many of the current South African Test squad will be playing in the SA T20 competition (Bavuma didn't even get selected by a franchise initially) but looking through their active test cricketers SA don't currently have any players 'missing' due to T20 cricket, Dwaine Pretorious is one guy who continually gets T20 gigs in the various competitions but isn't close to test team and Rilee Rossouw currently playing for the Thunder in the BBL but he hasn't played test cricket.
To say the fans deserve more than what has been dished up is harsh, it's not CA's fault this South African team has struggled with the bat recently and they're not as good as they used to be.
by The Dark Knight » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:36 pm
Who said it MT? A commentator? That’s a ridiculous comparison lol.mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Oh man
I've seen someone saying what a courageous innings it was.
Sorry, but Deano has him covered by the length of the straight
Deano lost 8 kgs that innings.
Yep.
There just isn't a comparison.
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:37 pm
by Spargo » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:37 pm
by The Dark Knight » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:38 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:40 pm
The Dark Knight wrote:Who said it MT? A commentator? That’s a ridiculous comparison lol.
I remember learning about that innings watching Cricket in the 80s on ABC!
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:41 pm
Spargo wrote:I’m not comparing Warner’s performance with anyone’s.
I’m just appreciating it.
by stampy » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:49 pm
by stampy » Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:54 pm
rd wrote:I too miss the matches between the touring side and the state teams prior to the first Test. When I was a teenager the touring team often arrived in Adelaide in late October and then played SA, VIC, NSW and QLD in the 4 weeks leading up to the first Test at the Gabba - so all members of the touring party played generally 2-3 games. Meanwhile the Australian players were playing at least 3 Shield games for their respective states as well - so there were no excuses for any players in either side involved in the 1st Test to be rusty or out of form. So there was a huge build up in excitement by the time we got to late November for the Gabba Test, especially if the touring team had beaten the state teams in their tour matches along the way. These days the touring team is ripe to be slaughtered at the Gabba due to no sensible preparation at all as players are involved in meaningless T20s or ODI around the world through November and jet into Brisbane seemingly 5 minutes before the 1st Test coin toss. No wonder Warney always cleaned up at the Gabba !!
by Armchair expert » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:01 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:15 pm
stampy wrote:well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie
by whufc » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:22 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:stampy wrote:well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie
I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.
His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.
by batmanbegins » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:30 pm
whufc wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:stampy wrote:well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie
I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.
His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.
Agree
As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.
by whufc » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:31 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:32 pm
whufc wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:stampy wrote:well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie
I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.
His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.
Agree
As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.
by whufc » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:33 pm
batmanbegins wrote:whufc wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:stampy wrote:well davey made a lot of us eat humble pie
I’ve never doubted his ability, I just don’t really like the bloke.
His talent should see him leave the game when he decides to.
Agree
As a batsmen his amongst the greats…..can’t stand the bloke and think there is a fair chance once he retires and reveals all we might have even more reason to dislike him.
I have an immense dislike for Warner so I'm biased and have always argued he can't be considered great due to his overseas average of 34. However it is hard to argue he's not one of the great openers with 25 test tons and the rate with which he scored made a huge difference.
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:34 pm
whufc wrote:Geez Rabada has been poor. Such a disappointment.
by whufc » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:35 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:whufc wrote:Geez Rabada has been poor. Such a disappointment.
Playing 2nd fiddle to Chuck Norris wouldn’t help his cause, he is slower than him and bowls without purpose.
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:38 pm
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