Adelaide

[gadj1976]

70% of those people shown in this vid aren't there any more. Interesting.

[Ronnie]

Silvers I understand is a pretty decent bloke and a genuine person. But he would've known when he was appointed to the role this was set to rear it's ugly head at some stage.
The whole mentality of the club has to change. This is his and Olsen's biggest challenge, moreso than finding a new home, or developing new income streams.

[Armchair expert]

Heres Kane Korn on Melbourne actually being "alpha males" and saying **** this to a similar preseason camp

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/melbou ... 367bfa16ee

[carey]

So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

[carey]

At least I won’t have to read about Ginnivan all week!

[RB]

So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

I expect similar did happen to non-indigenous players.

Not sure what point you're making?

[Jim05]

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

[whufc]

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

[LaughingKookaburra]

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

[Booney]

So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

Think you're off the mark here.

[Lightning McQueen]

I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

[MW]

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

Safework and AFL both knew it all, Eddie confirmed that on 360 last night. It is only the AFLPA that are claiming they didnt know even though they spoke to the players.

[cracka]

I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

Collective Minds seem to be not copping any flack over it. Haven't heard them mentioned once on any reports

[cracka]

AFLPA saying this contains new information they hadn’t been told and are looking at investigating it further

The logical guess is it’s looking likely the AFLPA and Safework were told a bullshit story that came from Crows admin which dismissed the stories as pure rumours. Sounds like either the players versions weren’t asked, believed or they were told to keep quiet.

Would also make sense as to why a few players wanted to exit after the camp.

Logical guess? Seriously if any agency such as Safe Work SA, the AFL or the AFL PA who are now apologising/acting dumb couldn’t find this information out when doing their investigation they should be packing their bags also. A lot of these recollection of events happened in a public space and if they just listened to one side of events they should be shot.

Safework and AFL both knew it all, Eddie confirmed that on 360 last night. It is only the AFLPA that are claiming they didnt know even though they spoke to the players.

Eddie's book also confirmed a rumour about the camp to be false. It was widely rumoured that the cupping of team-mates aggots happened but he said they refused to do it.

[stan]

I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

That's what gets me as well.in all off this. At what stage dis a leader stand up and say this is all a bit ****** and put an end to it?

[Mr Beefy]

I'm more surprised that at no stage did anyone in any form of leadership role step in and say "we can't go on together, with collective minds".

That's what gets me as well.in all off this. At what stage dis a leader stand up and say this is all a bit ****** and put an end to it?

LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

[Lightning McQueen]

LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

Was caught in a trap.

[stan]

LM, over Stan's head like a hairnet

Was caught in a trap.

Oh man i missed that one pretty well, bloody hell I'm splitting.

[gazzamagoo]

So none of this happened to the non-Indigenous players then?

Ohh no, they’re just not releasing a book, yeah right got it.

Probably because no-one else has raised the issues.

[The Bedge]

I think people are forgetting - this was a snippet taken out of an autobiography. The life story of Eddie Betts - from childhood, to AFL, to kicking goals, to the birth of his kids - and yes the camp.

It's not like he's come out and decided to rag on the camp and the club out of the blue. The people responsible for bringing this up are the media, who are choosing to highlight one aspect of the book, one part of an amazing, truly inspiring story of a proud black man when there are so many great stories about Eddie Betts to report on.

Yes of course the camp was bad obviously, and of course Adel handled this poorly - but the commentary around Betts getting over it, or non-indigenous players not bringing it up, or that he had his chance to talk about it etc are ******* stupid.

The whole focus should be on his book release and the story of his life - the barriers he overcame and broke down, and the pathway he's forged for the next generation of Aboriginal people,, but no, that doesn't generate enough hatred and vitriol for the media to worry about.