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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:25 pm

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doggies4eva wrote:I don't think that there is one easy answer but I think the location of Centrals in an area that can relate to them and the clubs understanding of that cooumity is one factor. For this reason I think that South are on the right track but they have tried to buy short term success by recruiting "name" imports rather than having the core of the club as locals and selectively recruiting the right people where there are gaps. I think that the location of many of the "old" clubs in localities that were more fitting 50 or 100 years ago is their downfall. Norwood need not only to have pokies in their zone but to embrace the local culture as well. Time will tell if this is possible. I feel that too many clubs are still in 1900s mentality.



I think Norwood have embraced their culture well , sitting on their backsides , drinking latte and watching the world go by.


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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:27 pm

International Roast doesn't quite have the same ring to it though...
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:29 pm

smac wrote:International Roast doesn't quite have the same ring to it though...


LOL .. I actually had that particular brand in my post but ended up deleting it
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Hawks22 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:00 pm

One thing the club does well is .......... keeping the SANFL out of the club. Centrals run all their own programs at under age level and accepts no help from the SANFL. :roll:

Could also be another reason why the SANFL doesn't like the success that Centrals have achieved without their input :evil:
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby BPBRB » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:51 pm

Hawks22 wrote:One thing the club does well is .......... keeping the SANFL out of the club. Centrals run all their own programs at under age level and accepts no help from the SANFL. :roll:

Could also be another reason why the SANFL doesn't like the success that Centrals have achieved without their input :evil:


They still take the SANFL financial dividend from what profit the AFL clubs make though so I wouldn't say they turn back all help! There is only one club that is close enough to consider operating with out any SANFL financial dividend and it's not Centrals.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:01 pm

We do OK out of (now) 3 sets of pokies though. We just don't stand on the roof top to tell everyone about it.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby redden whites » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:41 pm

smac wrote:We do OK out of (now) 3 sets of pokies though. We just don't stand on the roof top to tell everyone about it.

Not quite the scholarships I was thinking about :shock:
maybe it all hype i really thought the dogs fans would be dying to tell us what they do for the community that seperates them from the others...........maybe it just more pokies than anyone else :(
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:15 pm

Nothing should be taken in isolation, we do many things very well.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby redden whites » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:27 pm

just wondering what kinda stuff you get printed in ya local messenger about the club etc? in all seriousness
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:30 pm

redden whites wrote:just wondering what kinda stuff you get printed in ya local messenger about the club etc? in all seriousness

Can't help you on that one - I get all about your club in my messenger. :wink:

I think all messengers do a good job in at least appearing supportive of the local team. I know mine gets up my nose from time to time in its support of North! :lol:
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Hondo » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:31 pm

Yes, our local messenger regularly does articles on the Bays :vom:

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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby doggies4eva » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:57 pm

A lot of people go on about the doggies recruting which has been first class but I think the key is the core players are developed through our junior programs and then we selectively recruit to fill any areas where we are light on. We also only target players that will fit into the club culture because that is the key to success - both on and off the field.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Wedgie » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:07 am

smac wrote:We do OK out of (now) 3 sets of pokies though. We just don't stand on the roof top to tell everyone about it.

You just did! :lol:

What are the 3 sets of pokies you now have? I must claim ignorance on that one as was only aware of Grand Central (serious question).
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby redden whites » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:45 pm

smac wrote:We do OK out of (now) 3 sets of pokies though. We just don't stand on the roof top to tell everyone about it.

Gee thats doing wonders for the community ,next time I hear the hype I will take it as just that sadly.I have come to the conclusion the football dept has been given plenty of resources and winning has attracted many locals and thats about it.Back to my original post asking what do they do that others aren't doing?.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby smac » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:49 pm

As I said, don't take anything in isolation - my comment regarding pokies was in response to a comment about incomes, not about why our club is successful.

The reasons for success are as many and varied as the reasons for some other clubs lack of success.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby once_were_warriors » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:10 pm

Central Success :- Great Skills, Hard at ball ,well drilled into team plan , great coaching staff, exellent recruitment, lots of money, fanatical supporters.

Pretty easy really
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby Hawks22 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:10 pm

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Hawks22 wrote:One thing the club does well is .......... keeping the SANFL out of the club. Centrals run all their own programs at under age level and accepts no help from the SANFL. :roll:

Could also be another reason why the SANFL doesn't like the success that Centrals have achieved without their input :evil:


They still take the SANFL financial dividend from what profit the AFL clubs make though so I wouldn't say they turn back all help! There is only one club that is close enough to consider operating with out any SANFL financial dividend and it's not Centrals.


Was not talking about financial help .... just pointing out the fact that we control our destiny (whether its good or bad) and take no input or help from the SANFL ... which hasn't pleased them at all.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby JK » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:19 pm

once_were_warriors wrote:Central Success :- Great Skills, Hard at ball ,well drilled into team plan , great coaching staff, exellent recruitment, lots of money, fanatical supporters.

Pretty easy really


I would suggest there are 8 other clubs that haven't found it at all easy, hence the discussion taking place.
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby once_were_warriors » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:03 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
once_were_warriors wrote:Central Success :- Great Skills, Hard at ball ,well drilled into team plan , great coaching staff, exellent recruitment, lots of money, fanatical supporters.

Pretty easy really


I would suggest there are 8 other clubs that haven't found it at all easy, hence the discussion taking place.



Well I reckon if all clubs achieve/better all those points then they will be in the same position as Central. Only one not achievable by many clubs is having fanatical supporters
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Re: central v some afl clubs, but not what you think

Postby BPBRB » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:39 pm

Hawks22 wrote: Was not talking about financial help .... just pointing out the fact that we control our destiny (whether its good or bad) and take no input or help from the SANFL ... which hasn't pleased them at all.


That's a good thing and without knowing the workings of Centrals, I can say North has a "frosty" relationship with the SANFL in terms of making many independent decisions in the best interest of our club and not just what the SANFL wants or would like. I think the more other clubs can do the same when they become more financially stable, you will find that the clubs actually have the bulk say in how the SANFL is run overall in terms of our comp and not how it is now, where the SANFL appears in many instances to be an AFL "Yes" man!
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