WHAT A LOAD OF baLONIE

[Hondo]

Don't worry now ....

I read Punky's post in the GF thread and followed the link to the NAFC web-site

[mal]

Quote Andrew Newton Jarman

" WE WILL SELECT LONIE FOR THE GRAND FINAL IF PORT POWER ALLOWS US."

Don't believe everything Andrew Newton JARMAN quotes

This statement was made on ABC TV after the Prelim final win by NA by Jars



This pathetic saga is now over
LONIE has made himself unavailable for the SANFL Grand Final
This continuing bullshit Russian Roulette availabilities dictated by the AFL clubs
has ended very sadly for all concerned

In the end a talented footballer did not play football in the last 3 weeks of a season
during which his 2 affiliated teams played in finals campaigns.
The AFL clubs owe some loyalty to the SANFL clubs who continue to select thier players.

Whats does this mean to me ?
It means Im losing a lot of respect for AFL clubs and will concentate by supporting alleigances
to the SANFL competition and will follow AC/PP with far less intensity in the future
I know of 2 other people with SAFOOTY who are handing in thier AFL memberships.

baLONIE has become feLONIEous

[mal]

Mal

What If

Port sait to LONIE, "mate give today a miss because your going to the big dance next week"

do you honestly believe Lonie would care that he missed today

Im not having a go at this post SD
Your comments did make sense at the time
I would be interested in your views now

[locky801]

Seems to happen every year to players and SANFL clubs, question, do SANFL clubs have to take part in the mini draft for AFL players each year or can they by pass that process and select none. Just seems to me that ALL SANFL sides would be better off without these players cause very rarely are they allowed to play in finals or don't want to.

[smac]

Seems to happen every year to players and SANFL clubs, question, do SANFL clubs have to take part in the mini draft for AFL players each year or can they by pass that process and select none. Just seems to me that ALL SANFL sides would be better off without these players cause very rarely are they allowed to play in finals or don't want to.

Unsure if it is a rule or not, but you could guarantee it would be a rule if all clubs stopped participating.

The SANFL would want the Port/Crows players not playing AFL to get a game of footy at SANFL level and they would be prepared to create a rule to ensure this happened I reckon.

[Dirko]

Just curious...didn't King play in the Geelong VFL GF before the AFL GF. Surely Geelong had a fair indication that King was going to play in the AFL GF, yet let him play in the VFL GF. Sure they took King off with a fair bit of game to go, but who's to say he wouldn't pick up a injury at the first bounce? IMO to not let blokes play for the sake of they might get injured, is asking for trouble. What's to say a bloke doesn't play a game for three weeks, and then pulls a hamstring whilst training.
A precedent NEEDS to be set the SANFL clubs, and that is to pick the best starting side that WOULD be able to play finals, if they make them.
So therefore as a Glenelg supporter, if the Bays know Logan will be playing for Port, and won't be available, why play him and keep a kid out ?
Unlike the AFL/VFL set up, say my mob, if Bentick gets dropped from the Blues to the Bullants, the Bullants know that they'll take a player yet get a player back. A fair system. Something needs to be looked at...

[smac]

Ron Fuller set that precedent last year from memory. Pretty sure he didn't select McGregor and one other Crows listed player in the early finals as they had already been informed they would not be available for finals once the Crows season had finished.

[locky801]

Ron Fuller set that precedent last year from memory. Pretty sure he didn't select McGregor and one other Crows listed player in the early finals as they had already been informed they would not be available for finals once the Crows season had finished.

Can't recall if he did or didn't SMAC but I think it is perhaps something clubs in the SANFL should look at,

[bulldogproud]

Mal

What If

Port sait to LONIE, "mate give today a miss because your going to the big dance next week"

do you honestly believe Lonie would care that he missed today

Im not having a go at this post SD
Your comments did make sense at the time
I would be interested in your views now

As Lonie does not appear to have any interest in playing in SANFL games unless they further his chances of being selected to play AFL I don't think it would have made a scrap of difference to him.
Cheers

[Hondo]

Seems to happen every year to players and SANFL clubs, question, do SANFL clubs have to take part in the mini draft for AFL players each year or can they by pass that process and select none. Just seems to me that ALL SANFL sides would be better off without these players cause very rarely are they allowed to play in finals or don't want to.

Good point

I have been wondering too if the solution is to keep the mini-draft players in the SANFL reserves. Might solve some of these issues plus not force the SANFL clubs to go without their juniors who got drafted by Crows or Power (ie, don't have a blanket 'SANFL reserves only' rule for all AFL listed players - just the min-draft ones).

There's prob issues with this I haven't thought of tho ...

[bulldogproud]

Or you can do what Central have done on numerous occasions. Play the player in the Reserves a few weeks in a row and have them go to another SANFL club - Surjan, Lockwood, Paxman and I think at least one other have been through this process.
Cheers

[locky801]

Mal

What If

Port sait to LONIE, "mate give today a miss because your going to the big dance next week"

do you honestly believe Lonie would care that he missed today

Im not having a go at this post SD
Your comments did make sense at the time
I would be interested in your views now

As Lonie does not appear to have any interest in playing in SANFL games unless they further his chances of being selected to play AFL I don't think it would have made a scrap of difference to him.
Cheers

True, one wonders now by his lack of playing the last 2 weeks when available how much effect it will have on his career, IMHO, I think his days are pretty well numbered, should have played for North last week and this week to at least prove a point, still he is the one that may well have to live with that, no-one else

[G]

Hey its a Grand Final and if hes not willing to break his balls to play, well F#*K him and note that Ive been in favour of him playing whenever available.

[Grahaml]

Is it a coincidence that the team that appears to be least affected by these problems is Centrals? It also seems centrals are most likely to tell a the AFL club to get stuffed when they stuff us around too much. Surjan, Lockwood and Paxman all left because the dogs wouldn't do what the Power wanted.

[smac]

It's all about consistency at Centrals, graham.

The club own the game plan, the club own the rules. The only blokes who get (and retain) the job as coach are ones who are able to teach and live by the clubs plan and rules.

So no, it's no coincidence at all.

[Punk Rooster]

Hey its a Grand Final and if hes not willing to break his balls to play, well F#*K him and note that Ive been in favour of him playing whenever available.

To be fair to Lonie, I think Choco screwing him* around over the Grand Final spot has left him devastated- obiously, he has other things on his mind than playing for North Adelaide.
Well done to him for being man enough to admit this- he's given his spot to someone who'll want it more.

[RoosterMarty]

Gotta agree with Punk.
From all reports he is absolutely gutted that he didn't play in the AFL Grand Final.
We are chasing our first flag since 1991 and we are taking on a team which has fronted up in 8 consecutive Grand Finals. We need 21 committed blokes out there who are ready to put everything on the line to win the cup. Lonie could have taken the easy option, played in a GF and let down his team mates and supporters (not saying that he definitely would have) but instead he took the gutsy option and was honest about his mental state. Thanks Lonie.

[Aerie]

Ron Fuller set that precedent last year from memory. Pretty sure he didn't select McGregor and one other Crows listed player in the early finals as they had already been informed they would not be available for finals once the Crows season had finished.

I believe McGregor was not going to be eligible for the GF anyway so chose not to play him in the league finals. Bernie Vince was the other who was not chosen in the league finals because he was going to be withdrawn by the Crows before the SANFL GF.

[redden whites]

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To be fair to Lonie, I think Choco screwing him* around over the Grand Final spot has left him devastated- obiously, he has other things on his mind than playing for North Adelaide.
Well done to him for being man enough to admit this- he's given his spot to someone who'll want it more.

yep totally agree with punk. Unless ya feel 100% that you are part of it stay out.i admire the bloke.

[sydney-dog]

Mal

at the end of the day, Lonie is a Power contracted player, so Port can do as they pleased

I am making an assumption that Williams would of said to Lionie that he was in the mix for selection, however, and the club wanted to rest him, so they would have all available options to consider at selection...

looking for a distance, it looks like Lonie's heart is not in it to plY SANFL, North are better off playing someone that will bleed for the jumper