Carlton

[daysofourlives]

The issues you mention have been prevalent for a long time so still fall under a failure of the senior coach I would think. I'm not close enough to know the situation, but from the outside you would question his group of assistants also. I like the bloke, but whenever a side is clearly sup-par in an area and show zero signs of improvement in that area, there's only so long he can survive imho. If they'd addressed their defensive and effort woes but another issue had emerged, well then yeah maybe that buys some time. Their list management team will come under fair scrutiny too you would think.[/quote]

Did you see someone today published all their draft picks and trades for the last 8 or so years, there are multiple years where not a single player remains, that is their problem. Ill see if i can find it
They are the easiest team to move the ball from defensive 50 to forward 50 against and by a comfortable margin, backs up what i said earlier about not just their defenders who cant defend

[daysofourlives]

CARLTON'S DRAFT HAULS ASSESSED
These are Carlton's National and Rookie draft selections since 2013.
2020
Corey Durdin?
Jack Carroll?
Luke Parks?
Too early to say.

2019
Brodie Kemp?
Sam Philp X
Sam Ramsay?
Jack Martin?
Josh Honey X
Fraser Phillips X

2018
Sam Walsh Gun
Liam StockerX
Finbar O'DwyerX
Ben SilvagniX
Hugh Goddard X
Tomas Bugg X

2017
Paddy Dow X
Lochie O'Brien X
Tom De Koning ?
Angus Schumacher X
Jarrod Garlett X
Cameron O'SheaX
Matt Shaw X

2016
Sam Petrevski-Seton ?
Zac Fisher ?
Harrison Macreadie X
Cameron PolsonX
Tom WilliamsonX
Pat KerrX
Kym LeBoisX
Alex SilvagniX
Andrew GallucciX

2015
Jacob Weitering Gun
Harry McKay Gun
Charlie Curnow Gun when right
David Cuningham?
Jack Silvagni? Not really
Jesse Glass-McCaskerX
Andrew GallucciX

2014
Blaine Boekhorst X
Dillon Viojo-RainbowX
Clem SmithX
Jayden FosterX
Jason TuttX
Billy GowersX
Bradley WalshX
Tom FieldsX
Fraser RussellX

2013
Patrick Cripps Gun
Cameron Giles X
Nicholas HolmanX
Edward Curnow Gun
Tom Bell X
Luke Reynolds X
Cameron WoodX
Blaine JohnsonX
Heath ScotlandGun
Ciaran SheehanX
Ciaran ByrneX


Since 2019 That is 40 out of 55 that are an absolute bust, 8 that are a win, 4 that a ? is very generous and the 3 question marks from 2019 are unlikely.
You wouldnt find a club with a worse recruiting record than that, id even venture to say no club would even come close to that sort of incompetence

[amber_fluid]

Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.

[daysofourlives]

Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.

Compared to the other 47, he's Craig Bradley

[amber_fluid]

Ed Curnow is no gun.
Average at best.

Compared to the other 47, he's Craig Bradley

I would of moved him on 2-3 years ago.
His disposal is terrible.
He’s only still there so his brother don’t go elsewhere.

[Armchair expert]

Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

[Senor Moto Gadili]

Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.

[Armchair expert]

Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.

He is cooked

[LaughingKookaburra]

Sam Philp will be a good player, definitely not a X, out for the year with injury

Honey will likely be a in this week for Betts

What's wrong with Eddie? Surely he plays against the Crows.

He’s 34, incredibly inconsistent (because he’s 34) and literally hasn’t been able to kick 40 metres since 2018.

[Dutchy]

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?

[stan]

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?

McKay looks good. Took awhile Kirk big fellas do, but looks good.

Probably only other one is Cripps.

Walsh was a star when he was born, couldn't stuff that one up even if they tried.

[Brodlach]

Cripps, MacKay and Walsh would develop at any club, they just have natural skill. Carlton have nothing to do with their development

[Armchair expert]

Development is a huge issue

Dow O'Brien looks to be a very costly bust

even guys like Fisher and SPS who Cartlon fans think are future guns don't do anything, I don't see it with either of them, I'd be happy to trade them.

[MW]

Crows get criticised for not playing the kids quick enough...on the other hand I think Carlton play theirs too quick without earning a spot.

[JK]

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?

Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player

[Lightning McQueen]

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?

Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player

I heard on the grapevine that he was born on the bayou.

[JK]

Development at Carlton has been very ordinary, recruiters can only bring talent to the club, what happens after that isn't their responsibility.

Barring Walsh who are the other kids that have developed into above average footballers in recent years?

Reckon that Fogarty lad can be a player

I heard on the grapevine that he was born on the bayou.

Some folks are born made to wave the flag

[gadj1976]

Cripps, MacKay and Walsh would develop at any club, they just have natural skill. Carlton have nothing to do with their development

Definitely haven't developed McKay's kicking technique.

[mots02]

Just imagine how bad this blokes back and shoulders will be after another 6 years carrying this mob.


https://www.afl.com.au/news/635806/done ... -extension

[Booney]

6 years at 26 with a banged up body, my word player managers bend clubs over now, don't they?