by Dutchy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:59 am
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:02 am
whufc wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:whufc wrote:Booney wrote:This series really has highlighted weaknesses in the current Australian national team.
Leadership - Well documented on here how I feel about Langer, he was the right man for the job to bring Australia out of the mire post Sandpapergate, his pride, moisture inducing pride, in the baggy green was what was needed to bring some respect back to the Australian side. He did that, along with Tim Paine, they once again demanded we respect our opponents. That had eroded under Smith and Lehmann. Now though, as demonstrated in Sydney and Melbourne, we don't know how to show some mongrel when we have too. We've gone too far the "other" way. Warner, clearly on best behaviour barely says much and if he does it's a much more tempered approach than before and the likes of Labuschagne and Paine have had to push themselves into that role, the aggressor, and it doesn't suit, or work for, either of them.
We've debated on here who the next long term captain of Australia is and the best we can come up with is Cummins in the short term, perhaps Head if he can get back in and cement his spot and Carey who isn't even in the side! Given Smith won't be given it and who the f*ck would want to listen to Labuschagne as skipper the cupboard is bare bar a 37 year old keeper and a bowler. Good times ahead.
Batting depth - No Smith, no 'Straya. With Warner hobbled this summer we looked to Smith to build us totals and when he failed we had nobody to turn to. Burns was thrown to the wolves, Wade went from 5 to open and back to 5, we would never have debuted a young opener against the best attack in the world if we didn't have to then it was back to the future with Harris at the top of the order. Bar the shining light of Green the summer has been a disaster when it comes to finding blokes who can build scores. Labuschagne keeps keeping on, credit to him, he's the only bat who has done his job this summer.
So, bar leadership and batting we're in good shape.
Disagree about the potential in our batting.
With Smith, Labuschagne and Warner we have 3 world class batters. Yes Warner was injured but long term he should be fine and in general has been injury free.
Green looks the goods and could be the perfect defensive foil to Smith, Warner and Laba. Should be batting at 5 imo.
Paine has averaged over 50 and funnily enough it would be his batting that guarantees his spot. His batting average is the second best of all time Australian keepers behind the one and only Gilchrist.
Pucovski showed some promise in his one test but doesn't appear overly reliable when it comes to injuries.
ABC Radio mentioned yesterday Paines career average of 33 would makes him the second best keeper batsmen in Australia's history, higher than Haddin, Healy and co.
I think we can all agree about the shield, that change needs to happen immediately.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:03 am
Dutchy wrote:Draw was $1.80 last night and now $2.50 without a ball being bowled, Im guessing the forecast is looking pretty good.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:04 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:jackpot jim wrote:What is with the Australian top order batsmen when they're given out ? They just stand around thinking they've been hard done by all the time.
It's the attitude that's been instilled into the group with the re-emergence of Smith and Warner, I'm a fan of Smith's but I'm rapidly losing respect for him again, Marnus is a deadset wanker, it's hard to tell when Smith ends and he starts.
Wade and Warner are a pair of floggers too, I hope Green can remain level-headed.
Piss Langer off and get in Punter or Tugger, even AB for that matter, get some Aussie grunt and tenacity back in the squad.
by Booney » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:10 am
whufc wrote:I think we can all agree about the shield, that change needs to happen immediately.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:14 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:whufc wrote:
Our depth isn't great which is obvious but I guess you could argue we are fortunate to have two blokes averaging 40 that cant make or aren't presently in our line up, Head and Pattinson.
Just a shame there is no shield cricket on at the moment to sort the boys out from the men.
Leadership is an absolute shambles though.
I think our depth is ok, we just need to find a solid opening combo, something we've been blessed with for a very long time, it needs to be left/right IMO.
Its far easier coming in at 1/120 than 1/7 and so forth.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:16 am
Booney wrote:whufc wrote:I think we can all agree about the shield, that change needs to happen immediately.
I think we can all agree about the shield, that change will never happen.
by DOC » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:23 am
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:29 am
Rik E Boy wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:jackpot jim wrote:What is with the Australian top order batsmen when they're given out ? They just stand around thinking they've been hard done by all the time.
It's the attitude that's been instilled into the group with the re-emergence of Smith and Warner, I'm a fan of Smith's but I'm rapidly losing respect for him again, Marnus is a deadset wanker, it's hard to tell when Smith ends and he starts.
Wade and Warner are a pair of floggers too, I hope Green can remain level-headed.
Piss Langer off and get in Punter or Tugger, even AB for that matter, get some Aussie grunt and tenacity back in the squad.
Poor old AB. Hasn't he given enough? I reckon someone like Mark Taylor might be ideal but I can't see Tubs making an appearance.
regards,
REB
by RustyCage » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:39 am
by Dinglinga75 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:40 am
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:41 am
RustyCage wrote:Final day of a test series and every result is a possibility. How good is test cricket!
by JK » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:41 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Rik E Boy wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:jackpot jim wrote:What is with the Australian top order batsmen when they're given out ? They just stand around thinking they've been hard done by all the time.
It's the attitude that's been instilled into the group with the re-emergence of Smith and Warner, I'm a fan of Smith's but I'm rapidly losing respect for him again, Marnus is a deadset wanker, it's hard to tell when Smith ends and he starts.
Wade and Warner are a pair of floggers too, I hope Green can remain level-headed.
Piss Langer off and get in Punter or Tugger, even AB for that matter, get some Aussie grunt and tenacity back in the squad.
Poor old AB. Hasn't he given enough? I reckon someone like Mark Taylor might be ideal but I can't see Tubs making an appearance.
regards,
REB
F*** Tubby, he's too nice. He ranks #6 in the best captains of my era.
S.Waugh
Punter
AB
Clarke
G.Chappell
Taylor
Paine
Smith
Hughes
by DOC » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:55 am
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:59 am
Therefore we will never improveBooney wrote:whufc wrote:I think we can all agree about the shield, that change needs to happen immediately.
I think we can all agree about the shield, that change will never happen.
by DOC » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:01 am
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:05 am
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:17 am
JK wrote:Agree with Stevo, but Punter wayyyyy too high imho.
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:19 am
Q. wrote:That's ******
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