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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Wedgie wrote:If he wants a level playing field then fine, pay all of your players a maximum total of 200k, make them all take up day jobs, get rid of 90% of your staff and pay back all the money you owe the SANFL. Happy to have them back on a level playing field if that's what he wants.
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How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?
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Aerie wrote:How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?

Thats because like every thing the only places that exist according to the eastern states are the eastern states of Australia
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Re: The never ending No AFL in the SANFL whinge thread

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Reddeer wrote:
Aerie wrote:How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?

Thats because like every thing the only places that exist according to the eastern states are the eastern states of Australia

Travel can be minimised as is only a 16 round season, theyll probably play some teams twice to cut costs.
Only 8 teams will be interested in winning it
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Reddeer wrote:
Aerie wrote:How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?

Thats because like every thing the only places that exist according to the eastern states are the eastern states of Australia

All came together and got a season away and completed.
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But I agree with a lot lol.
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PatowalongaPirate wrote:
Reddeer wrote:
Aerie wrote:How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?

Thats because like every thing the only places that exist according to the eastern states are the eastern states of Australia

All came together and got a season away and completed.


No, it's planned for next year. Not even a last minute Covid thing.
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Aerie wrote:How about this Eastern VFL comp, with 22 teams and 16 rounds scheduled.

11 AFL Reserves sides.
3 AFL Reserves sides affiliated (Box Hill Hawks, Casey Demons, St Kilda/Sandringham).
6 VFL standalone sides.
2 Queensland Stand alone sides (Aspley & Southport).

How did this come about? How can they justify the cost of flying Southport and Aspley up and down the coast?


And we kept getting told by the AFL/Crows/Port that the AFL Reserves was fanciful because it was too expensive (despite A-League, Cricket, NRL doing it) :roll:
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Well the ink is going onto the rubber stamp.

SANFL poised to rubber stamp Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return to the competition
The return of the Crows and Port Adelaide to the state league is about to become official.
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The SA Football Commission is today expected to sign off on Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return to the SANFL next season.
With the AFL confirming only a minor cut in AFL list sizes next year – from a maximum of 47 to 44 per club and 38 to 36 on the senior list – the Crows and Port will have enough players to field reserves teams in the 2021 State League competition, which had been a major sticking point.
The two clubs, who had considered joining the new VFL and East Coast Second-Tier competition, also appear to have won their battle to retain a marquee player, which has been a controversial issue with the eight stand-alone SANFL clubs.
Before withdrawing from the competition this year following an AFL directive because of the coronavirus pandemic, which reduced the SANFL to an eight-team competition for the first time since 1963, Adelaide’s marquee player was Matthew Wright and Port’s was Cam Sutcliffe, who captained the Magpies in the 2019 SANFL grand final.
At this stage, the Crows will still be expected to pay their annual $440,000 licence fee to field a team in the SANFL, but this will be negotiated over summer, particularly as the SANFL salary cap has been slashed from $400,000 to $210,000 next season.

The league, meanwhile, will not support a proposal from the AFL to pinch more players from its competition, already boosted for next year by some big-name signings, including Bryce Gibbs (South Adelaide) and Aaron Young (North Adelaide), during the season.
With list numbers trimmed for next year, the AFL has proposed to replace the contentious mid-season draft – reintroduced last year – with a floating replacement player system.
Under the novel system, AFL clubs can nominate a previously undrafted or eligible player to their respective rookie lists during the season – after rounds four, eight and 12.
If a player is nominated by more than one club, he would go to the team lower on the premiership table.

The AFL will discuss the model further with its clubs and State leagues with the view to introducing it for next season.
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SANFL want Port, Crows for 2021
But SANFL general manager football Matthew Duldig said his league would not support the move.
“While we support every player in trying to play at the highest level possible, the disruption it causes during a season is significant to our SANFL clubs, members and supporters,’’ he said.
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goddy11 wrote:Well the ink is going onto the rubber stamp.

SANFL poised to rubber stamp Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return to the competition
The return of the Crows and Port Adelaide to the state league is about to become official.
Andrew Capel
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November 23, 2020 - 10:00PM
The Advertiser
The SA Football Commission is today expected to sign off on Adelaide and Port Adelaide’s return to the SANFL next season.
With the AFL confirming only a minor cut in AFL list sizes next year – from a maximum of 47 to 44 per club and 38 to 36 on the senior list – the Crows and Port will have enough players to field reserves teams in the 2021 State League competition, which had been a major sticking point.
The two clubs, who had considered joining the new VFL and East Coast Second-Tier competition, also appear to have won their battle to retain a marquee player, which has been a controversial issue with the eight stand-alone SANFL clubs.
Before withdrawing from the competition this year following an AFL directive because of the coronavirus pandemic, which reduced the SANFL to an eight-team competition for the first time since 1963, Adelaide’s marquee player was Matthew Wright and Port’s was Cam Sutcliffe, who captained the Magpies in the 2019 SANFL grand final.
At this stage, the Crows will still be expected to pay their annual $440,000 licence fee to field a team in the SANFL, but this will be negotiated over summer, particularly as the SANFL salary cap has been slashed from $400,000 to $210,000 next season.

The league, meanwhile, will not support a proposal from the AFL to pinch more players from its competition, already boosted for next year by some big-name signings, including Bryce Gibbs (South Adelaide) and Aaron Young (North Adelaide), during the season.
With list numbers trimmed for next year, the AFL has proposed to replace the contentious mid-season draft – reintroduced last year – with a floating replacement player system.
Under the novel system, AFL clubs can nominate a previously undrafted or eligible player to their respective rookie lists during the season – after rounds four, eight and 12.
If a player is nominated by more than one club, he would go to the team lower on the premiership table.

The AFL will discuss the model further with its clubs and State leagues with the view to introducing it for next season.
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SANFL want Port, Crows for 2021
But SANFL general manager football Matthew Duldig said his league would not support the move.
“While we support every player in trying to play at the highest level possible, the disruption it causes during a season is significant to our SANFL clubs, members and supporters,’’ he said.

Dumdig trying to make out he cares, how condescending.
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The AFL will get what they want...…..
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goddy11 wrote:At this stage, the Crows will still be expected to pay their annual $440,000 licence fee to field a team in the SANFL, but this will be negotiated over summer, particularly as the SANFL salary cap has been slashed from $400,000 to $210,000 next season.


Um what? Why would the SANFL renegotiate?

(He says knowing full well the SANFL will gladly capitulate and drop their daks again for the AFL cancers.)
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RB wrote:
goddy11 wrote:At this stage, the Crows will still be expected to pay their annual $440,000 licence fee to field a team in the SANFL, but this will be negotiated over summer, particularly as the SANFL salary cap has been slashed from $400,000 to $210,000 next season.


Um what? Why would the SANFL renegotiate?

(He says knowing full well the SANFL will gladly capitulate and drop their daks again for the AFL cancers.)


This is my biggest pet hate in high level management.

Why not just own the decision, come out and say the Crows fee will be negotiated to a lower fee due to the salary cap being decreased and the lost income they saw from last seasons AFL.

The public know what you are doing, just own it and at least hold some respect.
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whufc wrote:
RB wrote:
goddy11 wrote:At this stage, the Crows will still be expected to pay their annual $440,000 licence fee to field a team in the SANFL, but this will be negotiated over summer, particularly as the SANFL salary cap has been slashed from $400,000 to $210,000 next season.


Um what? Why would the SANFL renegotiate?

(He says knowing full well the SANFL will gladly capitulate and drop their daks again for the AFL cancers.)


This is my biggest pet hate in high level management.

Why not just own the decision, come out and say the Crows fee will be negotiated to a lower fee due to the salary cap being decreased and the lost income they saw from last seasons AFL.

The public know what you are doing, just own it and at least hold some respect.


Perhaps the smears' fee could be negotiated upwards to compensate...
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How much have the Crows spent paying Geelong for Jenkins, Carlton for Betts, Gibbs to pay out his contract - not to mention Pyke, Camporeale and Burton being paid out to not work for them any more. They can pay the full amount! As should Port! Add a further $100k to each SANFL clubs salary cap!
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Yep like youre think Mr Duldig but youve got no hope....
As for the Crows attempting worm their way out of paying the sanfl 440k... The crows clearly would have done their sums when deciding whether to join the expanded VFL competition, taking into consideration the 440k....and decided to stay in the sanfl. Clearly the cheaper option to stay in the sanfl,,.... so s---f them!
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The last two SANFL presidents are crows ambassadors what do u expect ???


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I wonder how much input the actual clubs had in this decision. As a long standing Eagles member I wasn't canvassed about this re-entry of the AFL reserve teams. This could have been a good opportunity to reconsider the original vote.
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