2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

MW · Post by MW » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:06 am

gadj1976 wrote:Geelong have officially revolutionised the trade period. They have 2 top picks, made the GF and now have Cameron in their sights.

Other clubs battling to get a top pick need to learn from Geelong. It's not the top picks that gets you to the top, it's having good players in the 20-50 pick range that develop (and potentially get taken by other clubs) topping up their draft picks which they then use to secure other good players, not just drafting kids each year! They've never bottomed out because they don't have to.

As I've said previously no 1 draft picks don't maketh the team!

Think they'd prefer to still have Kelly though

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:14 am

MW wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:Geelong have officially revolutionised the trade period. They have 2 top picks, made the GF and now have Cameron in their sights.

Other clubs battling to get a top pick need to learn from Geelong. It's not the top picks that gets you to the top, it's having good players in the 20-50 pick range that develop (and potentially get taken by other clubs) topping up their draft picks which they then use to secure other good players, not just drafting kids each year! They've never bottomed out because they don't have to.

As I've said previously no 1 draft picks don't maketh the team!
Think they'd prefer to still have Kelly though

Probably, but given the emphasis on player wellbeing away from the game someone who isn't happy isn't a viable long term option.

Clubs are willing to let players go for their own wellbeing ahead of their squads needs. Charlie Cameron, Jack Steven, Tim Kelly, Jesse Hogan etc etc.

MW · Post by MW » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:21 am

Yeah i get that, just mean it wasnt "good strategy" for Geelong to have 2 top picks when it was in reality forced on them

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:31 am

MW wrote:Yeah i get that, just mean it wasnt "good strategy" for Geelong to have 2 top picks when it was in reality forced on them

Agreed, when they let Kelly go they didn't know they'd be in a GF and (probably) didn't know Cameron was certain to try and get to them.

Jim05 · Post by **Jim05** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:40 am

According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”

Jim05 · Post by **Jim05** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:41 am

Geez, had a listen to Silvagni this morning. Seems the parting of ways wasn’t amicable at all

MW · Post by MW » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:47 am

Jim05 wrote:According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”

Kane has been wrong on this all year.
Yes he wants the biggest pay, BUT he also wants to stay. If Crows are the biggest figure then he'll stay however I think it's the Crows who will let him go for pick 2.

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:09 am

MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”
Kane has been wrong on this all year.
Yes he wants the biggest pay, BUT he also wants to stay. If Crows are the biggest figure then he'll stay however I think it's the Crows who will let him go for pick 2.

There is no way in hell you get pick 2 for him. None at all.

Fricky · Post by **Fricky** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:11 am

MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”
Kane has been wrong on this all year.
Yes he wants the biggest pay, BUT he also wants to stay. If Crows are the biggest figure then he'll stay however I think it's the Crows who will let him go for pick 2.

Cant see a 4 year, $450K deal from Geelong getting us Pick 2

Jim05 · Post by **Jim05** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:13 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”
Kane has been wrong on this all year.
Yes he wants the biggest pay, BUT he also wants to stay. If Crows are the biggest figure then he'll stay however I think it's the Crows who will let him go for pick 2.
There is no way in hell you get pick 2 for him. None at all.

Stranger things have happened.
There are plenty of deals that can be done with a nudge and wink, all legally of course

Jim05 · Post by **Jim05** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:15 am

Fricky wrote:
MW wrote:
Jim05 wrote:According to Kornes on SEN in regards to Crouch

I haven’t seen often a player deal with leaving a football club like Brad has dealt with it … Brad he just wants out for the biggest figure, he doesn’t care where he plays, which is unusual.”
Kane has been wrong on this all year.
Yes he wants the biggest pay, BUT he also wants to stay. If Crows are the biggest figure then he'll stay however I think it's the Crows who will let him go for pick 2.
Cant see a 4 year, $450K deal from Geelong getting us Pick 2

Daniher reportedly offered 4x $600k by Brisbane and that would only get us Band 2

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:27 am

Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Yeah i get that, just mean it wasnt "good strategy" for Geelong to have 2 top picks when it was in reality forced on them
Agreed, when they let Kelly go they didn't know they'd be in a GF and (probably) didn't know Cameron was certain to try and get to them.

The GF is irrelevant and have been into Cameron for years. But is this bit the "good strategy"?

gadj1976 wrote: It's not the top picks that gets you to the top, it's having good players in the 20-50 pick range that develop (and potentially get taken by other clubs) topping up their draft picks which they then use to secure other good players, not just drafting kids each year!

Brodlach · Post by **Brodlach** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 9:36 am

He wanted $800-$900k originally

Jim05 · Post by **Jim05** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:07 am

Crouch has nominated the Saints

Fricky · Post by **Fricky** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:07 am

Jim05 wrote:Crouch has nominated the Saints

No we wait to see how Tex responds

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:16 am

Fricky wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Crouch has nominated the Saints
No we wait to see how Tex responds

MONEY OVER SUCCESS!

MW · Post by MW » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:27 am

Well it's certainly about money we all know that considering he's said many times he'd hate to live in Melbourne!

Brodlach · Post by **Brodlach** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:37 am

Booney wrote:
Fricky wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Crouch has nominated the Saints
No we wait to see how Tex responds
MONEY OVER SUCCESS!

That’s why he is not going to Port, they have neither

Booney · Post by **Booney** » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:55 am

Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:
Fricky wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Crouch has nominated the Saints
No we wait to see how Tex responds
MONEY OVER SUCCESS!
That’s why he is not going to Port, they have neither

Look at you coming up from the bottom to the surface. Good for you!

MW · Post by MW » Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:59 am

Brodlach wrote:
Booney wrote:
Fricky wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Crouch has nominated the Saints
No we wait to see how Tex responds
MONEY OVER SUCCESS!
That’s why he is not going to Port, they have neither

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