Centrals v Eagles GF Again: YAWN

[FlyingHigh]

Ecky - my last question just meant that if it had those teams with consistently 35k, then this would hardly be an issue, and I'm sure we'd see a different spin on it, both in the media and the attitudes of "fringe" football supporters. I'll be there no matter who is playing, and hopefully always will be.

[Ecky]

Ecky - my last question just meant that if it had those teams with consistently 35k, then this would hardly be an issue, and I'm sure we'd see a different spin on it, both in the media and the attitudes of "fringe" football supporters. I'll be there no matter who is playing, and hopefully always will be.

Agreed - it would then just become a minor issue. People would think
"Wouldn't it be nice if some other teams made the GF for a change"

rather than the current thinking of
"This is really disappointing for the competition that we continue to get such low crowds for the GF, this could seriously affect the marketability of the competition in the future".

Consider a sponsor deciding whether to sponsor the League or not.
Q: What are the crowds like?
A: Well, they have only got around 25,000 to their Grand Finals in recent years...

[FlyingHigh]

[quote]Agreed - it would then just become a minor issue. People would think
"Wouldn't it be nice if some other teams made the GF for a change"

rather than the current thinking of
"This is really disappointing for the competition that we continue to get such low crowds for the GF, this could seriously affect the marketability of the competition in the future".


Yep, dead right. And as an Eagles supporter that burns in your guts, because you know its the truth.

And also a bit of respect thing, having lost it from the neutral supporters, esp after disasters of 2000, 01 and 04. The other years, 02-03, 05-06, think you could make a case that we've at least put up a contest.

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

[woodwt]

Agreed - it would then just become a minor issue. People would think
"Wouldn't it be nice if some other teams made the GF for a change"

rather than the current thinking of
"This is really disappointing for the competition that we continue to get such low crowds for the GF, this could seriously affect the marketability of the competition in the future".


Yep, dead right. And as an Eagles supporter that burns in your guts, because you know its the truth.

And also a bit of respect thing, having lost it from the neutral supporters, esp after disasters of 2000, 01 and 04. The other years, 02-03, 05-06, think you could make a case that we've at least put up a contest.

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

I agree 100%

[Mickyj]

Agreed - it would then just become a minor issue. People would think
"Wouldn't it be nice if some other teams made the GF for a change"

rather than the current thinking of
"This is really disappointing for the competition that we continue to get such low crowds for the GF, this could seriously affect the marketability of the competition in the future".


Yep, dead right. And as an Eagles supporter that burns in your guts, because you know its the truth.

And also a bit of respect thing, having lost it from the neutral supporters, esp after disasters of 2000, 01 and 04. The other years, 02-03, 05-06, think you could make a case that we've at least put up a contest.

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

i agree with you 100%
And I haven't gotten over 1994 yet !!!

[Brucetiki]

Given we've had a bit of variety in the 2SF's, I wouldn't mind a bit of variety come GF day.

I can understand where people like NFC are coming from - I remember back in 2000 how refreshing it was not to have Port/Norwood in the GF. We've just changed teams.

I don't think this issue is exclusive to the SANFL either, it's happened in other sports too. F1's popularity was all but destroyed by Michael Schumacher's success. Federer is starting to do the same with the tennis (grand slams are now just plain boring to watch). Even cricket was starting to become a bit of a turn-off when Australia was winning everything.

[Dogwatcher]

Even cricket was starting to become a bit of a turn-off when Australia was winning everything.

What do you mean when?

[Brucetiki]

Even cricket was starting to become a bit of a turn-off when Australia was winning everything.

What do you mean when?

I was referring to the time earlier in the decade when it was

1. Australia



2. South Africa























Everyone else

IMO, it's gotten closer recently - Australia did lose the No.1 ODI ranking earlier in the year (even though we got it straight back).

[Dogwatcher]

I know, I know.

But apart from the 20/20, we've still won everything of late....

You are right though.

[MightyEagles]

Actually, don't accept it. And dooooo something about it.

I'm sure Centrals and Eagles supporters are bored of seeing each other at the finals too.

Here, here, we want to face someone else in the GF. CD have enough flags for now.

Odd comment. IF you make the GF, you have no choice who you will play.

As in we want to face someone else besides Central.

[BPBRB]

This is a stupid topic - so what if Centrals and the Eagles make it again? It means the other 7 clubs are not good enough again to make it. Some of the crowd drop off is Centrals fans's dropping off - most likely after jumping on when the streak started not just the Eagles poor following - which in reality is not as bad as it seems at times.

I'm sure if Norwood / West met in 7 (possibly 8 ) GF's in a row the crowd figures would slowly decrease over the period.

Having the same two teams dominating should irate the hell out of the other clubs and drive them towards some sort of equal success or appearance rate.

[spell_check]

And I'll bet that the four consecutive Grand Finals played between Sturt and Port in 1965-68 were a yawn too.

Considering Sturt won the last three of those contests, then NO.

Seriously, Port and Sturt have large followings and didn't have to compete with the AFL(then VFL) for the peoples and media attention.
GF attendances since 1991 have slowly shrunk and lot of people think that the current Central-W/T domination has exascerbated this trend.
Port & Sturt set, a then, GF crowd record in 1965 and that rivalry probably helped the SANFL.

My sincerest apologies, I forgot to add the symbol next to that sentence. That happens when you get old, doesn't it?

And by the way, who gave you moderator status?

[Strawb]

This is a stupid topic - so what if Centrals and the Eagles make it again? It means the other 7 clubs are not good enough again to make it. Some of the crowd drop off is Centrals fans's dropping off - most likely after jumping on when the streak started not just the Eagles poor following - which in reality is not as bad as it seems at times.

I'm sure if Norwood / West met in 7 (possibly 8 ) GF's in a row the crowd figures would slowly decrease over the period.

Having the same two teams dominating should irate the hell out of the other clubs and drive them towards some sort of equal success or appearance rate.

agreed and this should make the other clubs stand up and take a good hard look at themselves and say that should be us there not them.

[spell_check]

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there would be more publicity if it was Port/Norwood.

Speaking of sameness, is it me, or is the pre-game "entertainment" the same each year?

Have a look at how much publicity the Slowdown gets, compared to the GF. Ever since the Slowdown started, it always has got more airtime on the TV and print space in newspapers.

[stan]

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there would be more publicity if it was Port/Norwood.

Speaking of sameness, is it me, or is the pre-game "entertainment" the same each year?

Have a look at how much publicity the Slowdown gets, compared to the GF. Ever since the Slowdown started, it always has got more airtime on the TV and print space in newspapers.

I think its called marketing.....

[spell_check]

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there would be more publicity if it was Port/Norwood.

Speaking of sameness, is it me, or is the pre-game "entertainment" the same each year?

Have a look at how much publicity the Slowdown gets, compared to the GF. Ever since the Slowdown started, it always has got more airtime on the TV and print space in newspapers.

I think its called marketing.....

That's right stan. How much do the SANFL market the Grand Final? I think we can safely say not much more than a Minor Round game.

[Strawb]

But that's why it has to be marketed as a genuine rivalry in all sections of the media, rather than "here we go again". If it was those team mentioned before, not doubt it would be marketed as such.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there would be more publicity if it was Port/Norwood.

Speaking of sameness, is it me, or is the pre-game "entertainment" the same each year?

Have a look at how much publicity the Slowdown gets, compared to the GF. Ever since the Slowdown started, it always has got more airtime on the TV and print space in newspapers.

I think its called marketing.....

That's right stan. How much do the SANFL market the Grand Final? I think we can safely say not much more than a Minor Round game.

All the SANFL seem to care about is the Crows and Power enough said.

[centrecirclelegend]

Actually, don't accept it. And dooooo something about it.

I'm sure Centrals and Eagles supporters are bored of seeing each other at the finals too.

ha me bored of seeing the eagles in another grand final, no way, they could play in the next 8 I would be very happy!

[Mickyj]

Actually, don't accept it. And dooooo something about it.

I'm sure Centrals and Eagles supporters are bored of seeing each other at the finals too.

ha me bored of seeing the eagles in another grand final, no way, they could play in the next 8 I would be very happy!

Otherwise we will be bored with no footy in that part of the year .

[eaglehaslanded]

This thread: what a yawn. This topic has been done and done again. If we don't want another Dogs vs Eagles GF then another of the 7 clubs needs to stand up and be counted.