gadj1976 wrote:So we finished up getting Martin and Newnes for nothing, Betts, Pittonet and then added Kemp, Philp, Ramsay and Honey.
Can't complain!
I was desperate for Port to nab this bloke with our Bergman pick - has all the traits to be an outright star.
My only solace right now, is the fact that Gawn aside (no one else comes to mind), no player who has done an ACL at junior level has gone on to become a star at AFL level.
I thought Joel Selwood did an ACL the year before he was drafted.? He goes ok
So you've seen everything have you? Yep Have you ever seen a man eat his own head? No Well you haven't seen everything then have you.
gadj1976 wrote:So we finished up getting Martin and Newnes for nothing, Betts, Pittonet and then added Kemp, Philp, Ramsay and Honey.
Can't complain!
I was desperate for Port to nab this bloke with our Bergman pick - has all the traits to be an outright star.
My only solace right now, is the fact that Gawn aside (no one else comes to mind), no player who has done an ACL at junior level has gone on to become a star at AFL level.
I thought Joel Selwood did an ACL the year before he was drafted.? He goes ok
na he just had a dodgy knee, wasn't an ACL Im sure there is one though, cant remember who. Chris Grant?
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gadj1976 wrote:So we finished up getting Martin and Newnes for nothing, Betts, Pittonet and then added Kemp, Philp, Ramsay and Honey.
Can't complain!
I was desperate for Port to nab this bloke with our Bergman pick - has all the traits to be an outright star.
My only solace right now, is the fact that Gawn aside (no one else comes to mind), no player who has done an ACL at junior level has gone on to become a star at AFL level.
I thought Joel Selwood did an ACL the year before he was drafted.? He goes ok
na he just had a dodgy knee, wasn't an ACL Im sure there is one though, cant remember who. Chris Grant?
Ben Rutten did an ACL at u18 level. Pretty handy footballer..
gadj1976 wrote:So we finished up getting Martin and Newnes for nothing, Betts, Pittonet and then added Kemp, Philp, Ramsay and Honey.
Can't complain!
I was desperate for Port to nab this bloke with our Bergman pick - has all the traits to be an outright star.
My only solace right now, is the fact that Gawn aside (no one else comes to mind), no player who has done an ACL at junior level has gone on to become a star at AFL level.
Good thought provoking point that one. Max King obviously is the one that may prove you wrong but you're right, more often than not it does limit them to an extent. Mind you, thankfully not all kids have done ACL's either.
Carlton chief Cain Liddle defends decision to move on Stephen Silvagni in members’ forum Jon Ralph, Herald Sun December 10, 2019 8:15am Subscriber only
Carlton chief executive Cain Liddle insists Stephen Silvagni’s conflict of interest hampered the club’s football department as members continued to vent their displeasure.
Liddle defended the failed recruitment of Richmond defender Brandon Ellis, saying the entire list management group was aware of Liddle using his links to the former Tiger to lure him to Ikon Park.
The Blues’ hierarchy had gone to ground for five days, refusing to publicly discuss why it parted ways with Silvagni, apart from releasing a statement about his conflict of interest over his sons.
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On Monday it finally used a members’ internet forum organised before the Silvagni decision to try to explain.
The anger from members was palpable, some saying they were appalled by Silvagni’s treatment and accusing the Blues of effectively sacking the club great.
But Liddle held the line, adamant Silvagni excusing himself from list management meetings handcuffed the football department.
He made clear that all list management decisions were robustly discussed among the entire group, despite player agents believing the team was often not on the same page.
Liddle said it was agreed by all in the list management group he would use his links to Ellis, through Richmond, Vic Metro and the Calder Cannons, to lure him across before the club eventually abandoned its pursuit post Round 23.
Liddle said the list management group, chaired by director and club Chris Judd was on the same page with approaches to Tom Papley, Ellis, Josh Deluca and Jack Martin.
“All players who were approached from other clubs as part of our 2019 list management strategy were discussed and rigorously debated over the course of many months at list management,” he said.
“Everyone on list management was very clear of the role I was playing with Brandon.
“We had individual plans in place for each of our target players that were regularly discussed at list management. I was one of Brandon’s coaches both at the Calder Cannons and Vic Metro in the national championships, and I obviously spent a number of years with him at Richmond, so it was agreed that we would leverage that relationship in our discussions with Brandon, who was set to become a free agent.”
But Carlton fans wanting more detail on Silvagni’s departure were left sadly wanting.
“We were completely transparent with the messaging around Stephen's contract not being renewed,” Liddle said.
“To have the club’s most senior list management staff member not take part in key discussions and decisions regarding the playing list and the broader operations of the football department became an increasingly challenging issue that was not in the best interests of the Carlton Football Club.
“The easy decision would have been to let the situation continue which was not seeing the football department running at its optimal level. The much tougher decision is to bring someone else in who can play a part in all relevant decisions and discussions that take place within the football department.”
On Monday more evidence of the confusing list management picture emerged when mid-season draftee Josh Deluca said he was “shocked and devastated” to be delisted.
He had been told by the club when it secured him in the mid-season draft he would likely be kept on in 2020, with speculation his recruitment did not have unanimous support at list management.
Earlier the club had released a beautiful set of numbers under CEO Liddle – a 47 per cent increase in home attendance, record membership (64,269) and a net profit of $2,492,164.
That figure swelled to $6.2 million when government grants for the club’s Ikon Park redevelopment was factored in, with $2.4 million of debt written off.
Carlton forward Charlie Curnow’s knee injury worse than first thought Carlton has been forced to drastically reassess Charlie Curnow’s injury prognosis, with the young gun facing the prospect of missing up to half the season after a setback after knee surgery.
The Blues conceded they don’t have a timeline for Curnow’s return.
The emerging star had an operation in November to repair a broken patella bone in his knee and has not started running.
His brace has been removed and only recently started strength rehabilitation.
Initial prognosis said Curnow would be sidelined for three to four months, but that has been drastically reassessed to missing the first eight games and possibly the first half of the season.
“As we already communicated to our members and supporters last month, Charlie won’t be available for the start of the season,’’ Carlton head of football Brad Lloyd told the Herald Sun last night.
“This will likely mean a return to the field around the middle of the year.’’
The Curnow setback comes as the Blues defended a drinking session Curnow took part in at teammate Sam Docherty’s wedding on the Australia Day weekend.
Several Carlton players were spoken to by club officials following the wedding about their alcohol consumption on the day, although no player was disciplined.
Coach David Teague and some assistants were at the wedding.
The club’s leadership group, headed by co captains Patrick Cripps and Docherty, imposed the sanctions on the brothers.
“The sanction imposed is based solely on the standards the player group are driving and will continue to do so,’’ Blues head of football Brad Lloyd said in November.
But the Blues stressed there was difference between the Silvagnis and Curnow and others because the brothers were drinking after suffering fresh injuries.
Jack had a back injury and Ben was battling a quad injury.
Curnow was permitted to drink because he was dealing with a long-term injury and alcohol would not affect his recovery.
Other players carrying injuries followed club protocol by not drinking at the Royal Botanic Gardens wedding.
Curnow, who turned 23 on Monday, played just 11 games last year because of injury and required an operation in October to correct the patella bone.
In November, the club said Curnow accidentally slipped on tiles while walking upstairs and sustained a separate fracture to his right patella.
“The recovery time for a fractured knee cap is typically 3-4 months,’’ Lloyd said at the time.
‘’It is unlikely he will be available for our pre-season games in late-February and early March.’’
The Blues fly to Queensland for a pre-season camp on Tuesday.
gadj1976 wrote:Watching the 2013 Rd23 game at Footy Park. I was there, what a game, what a comeback.
Ahh, the good old days.
Without googling it was that against Port? Was there with my lads Auskick if so. It was only his second game watching Port, his first the Suns beat us. No wonder he plays round ball now.
gadj1976 wrote:Watching the 2013 Rd23 game at Footy Park. I was there, what a game, what a comeback.
Ahh, the good old days.
Without googling it was that against Port? Was there with my lads Auskick if so. It was only his second game watching Port, his first the Suns beat us. No wonder he plays round ball now.
That's the one.
the game has gone backwards at a million miles per hour since. I hate the game now. So much so that I can only just bear watching one game (ours) and that's about it. I'm not missing much of it to be honest.
gadj1976 wrote:Watching the 2013 Rd23 game at Footy Park. I was there, what a game, what a comeback.
Ahh, the good old days.
Without googling it was that against Port? Was there with my lads Auskick if so. It was only his second game watching Port, his first the Suns beat us. No wonder he plays round ball now.
That's the one.
the game has gone backwards at a million miles per hour since. I hate the game now. So much so that I can only just bear watching one game (ours) and that's about it. I'm not missing much of it to be honest.
Yeah I get fed up with it from time to time. Supercoach and the great job REB does keeps me interested enough as a whole though.
