AFL 2020 Season

[Jim05]

[quote="amber_fluid"]

Small businesses are taking a hit maybe the players should too.
At least the senior players on good coin anyway.

$600k a year down to $480k won’t send them broke.

The AFL and clubs made a rod for their own back when they started stuffing around with the TPP and offering front or back ended contracts, deferred payments etc.
I can understand people asking for a 20% cut across the board but with so many different contract structures it’s near on impossible. If I’m in the final year of a back ended contract there is no way I’m giving up 20% of my pay

Then you'd be a greedy prick!

How so?
Let’s just say I’m on a $2m contract over 5 years and the club comes to me and says we are in TPP strife and instead of taking $400k a year can you help us out and take $200k each year for the next 4 years and $1.2m in your final year when we are better placed. So you agree to do that and you have taken the lower wage for 4 years and then in the final year the AFL tell you they want to cut 20% off $1.2m I’m telling you to get stuffed and I don’t care if that makes me greedy or not.
The AFL and the clubs created the mess it’s up to them to fix it

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$[/quote]I’m all for taking a hit off this years wages but in my scenario you are taking a hit for your last 4 years aswell.
That needs to be taken into account when the AFL are making these decisions. Not every contract is the same

[heater31]

[quote="Jim05"][quote="amber_fluid"]

Small businesses are taking a hit maybe the players should too.
At least the senior players on good coin anyway.

$600k a year down to $480k won’t send them broke.

The AFL and clubs made a rod for their own back when they started stuffing around with the TPP and offering front or back ended contracts, deferred payments etc.
I can understand people asking for a 20% cut across the board but with so many different contract structures it’s near on impossible. If I’m in the final year of a back ended contract there is no way I’m giving up 20% of my pay

Then you'd be a greedy prick!

How so?
Let’s just say I’m on a $2m contract over 5 years and the club comes to me and says we are in TPP strife and instead of taking $400k a year can you help us out and take $200k each year for the next 4 years and $1.2m in your final year when we are better placed. So you agree to do that and you have taken the lower wage for 4 years and then in the final year the AFL tell you they want to cut 20% off $1.2m I’m telling you to get stuffed and I don’t care if that makes me greedy or not.
The AFL and the clubs created the mess it’s up to them to fix it

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$[/quote]I’m all for taking a hit off this years wages but in my scenario you are taking a hit for your last 4 years aswell.
That needs to be taken into account when the AFL are making these decisions. Not every contract is the same[/quote]That's the risk of signing a contract with multiple rates of pay in it. ******* suck it up like everyone else. What about the poor **** close to retirement age? The arse has fallen out of the stock market now their retirement money is diminishing by the day.

[tigerpie]

You can throw all the numbers you want but in the end 20% is f#@k all..
Some people are losing 100% of their income and could end up long term unemployed.
Worse still there are some losing loved ones!
Any footballer or manager who sooks about it should be horsewhipped!

[amber_fluid]

You can throw all the numbers you want but in the end 20% is f#@k all..
Some people are losing 100% of their income and could end up long term unemployed.
Worse still there are some losing loved ones!
Any footballer or manager who sooks about it should be horsewhipped!

Agree 100%.
They can take the good with the bad just like the rest of us.

[Mr Beefy]

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$

Their bookies might..

[Booney]

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$

Their bookies might..

AFL footballers and bookies, not going to get much sympathy from the blokes in here!

[amber_fluid]

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$

Their bookies might..

AFL footballers and bookies, not going to get much sympathy from the blokes in here!

I feel for anyone effected but blokes earning half a mill won’t get much sympathy

[daysofourlives]

I must be in the minority, im happy they are playing and i think its the right decision.

I think they should house all the players from all 18 clubs in one place with no physical contact to the outside world. If they dont like it they dont have to participate but they can tear up their contracts. Plenty of normal people have to spend time away from their families for work and earn far less money than or the equivalent to the bottom rung of an AFL player.
The nation will need something to look forward to.

[RB]

[quote="tigerpie"][quote="Jim05"][quote="amber_fluid"]

Small businesses are taking a hit maybe the players should too.
At least the senior players on good coin anyway.

$600k a year down to $480k won’t send them broke.

The AFL and clubs made a rod for their own back when they started stuffing around with the TPP and offering front or back ended contracts, deferred payments etc.
I can understand people asking for a 20% cut across the board but with so many different contract structures it’s near on impossible. If I’m in the final year of a back ended contract there is no way I’m giving up 20% of my pay

Then you'd be a greedy prick!

How so?
Let’s just say I’m on a $2m contract over 5 years and the club comes to me and says we are in TPP strife and instead of taking $400k a year can you help us out and take $200k each year for the next 4 years and $1.2m in your final year when we are better placed. So you agree to do that and you have taken the lower wage for 4 years and then in the final year the AFL tell you they want to cut 20% off $1.2m I’m telling you to get stuffed and I don’t care if that makes me greedy or not.
The AFL and the clubs created the mess it’s up to them to fix it

I’m sure the poor bastards won’t starve if you take 20% off their 1.2 million.
That was 1.2 million $$$$$$[/quote]I’m all for taking a hit off this years wages but in my scenario you are taking a hit for your last 4 years aswell.
That needs to be taken into account when the AFL are making these decisions. Not every contract is the same[/quote]That's the risk of signing a contract with multiple rates of pay in it. ******* suck it up like everyone else. What about the poor **** close to retirement age? The arse has fallen out of the stock market now their retirement money is diminishing by the day.[/quote]I agree that the player in Jim's scenario has taken the risk and may have to accept being more disadvantaged than other players by this situation, but for the reasons Jim has given, I don't think it's quite fair for such a player annoyed by the situation as 'greedy'.

Being disgruntled about having to wear the loss doesn't automatically make you 'greedy'.

[Brodlach]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

[Lightning McQueen]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

Yeah, I'll probably have a CC's while watching it.

[tigerpie]

Being disgruntled about having to wear the loss doesn't automatically make you 'greedy
Sorry.....yes it does. Count your blessings!
Money comes and goes.
If one of the players parents/grandparents died from it then all the money in the world won't bring them back!

[amber_fluid]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

Of course ratings will be at an all time high but that’s hardly the point.
Any sport who continues to play will be but there putting $$$ before anything else.

[amber_fluid]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

Yeah, I'll probably have a CC's while watching it.

I’ve got a dozen bottles of CUB’s finest that’ll see me til 3/4 time.

[JK]

I must be in the minority, im happy they are playing and i think its the right decision.

I think they should house all the players from all 18 clubs in one place with no physical contact to the outside world. If they dont like it they dont have to participate but they can tear up their contracts. Plenty of normal people have to spend time away from their families for work and earn far less money than or the equivalent to the bottom rung of an AFL player.
The nation will need something to look forward to.

Yeah to be honest I don't mind it.

Was interesting on 360 the other night, the opposite sides Whately and Robbo came from:

Whately - We're shutting all these sports down across the country, what message does this send?

Robbo - Provided it can be done safely, woudn't this help lift the spirits of the nation which need all the lifting they can get

Both are good, valid points imho even though they don't line up

[whufc]

I love there is something on to watch tonight but just very surprised they made that decision.

[Spangas]

I must be in the minority, im happy they are playing and i think its the right decision.

I think they should house all the players from all 18 clubs in one place with no physical contact to the outside world. If they dont like it they dont have to participate but they can tear up their contracts. Plenty of normal people have to spend time away from their families for work and earn far less money than or the equivalent to the bottom rung of an AFL player.
The nation will need something to look forward to.

Robbo - Provided it can be done safely, woudn't this help lift the spirits of the nation which need all the lifting they can get

Haha, can never be 'done safely' as some carriers of the virus have no visible symptoms.
Won't be lifting the spirits of the nation if there's a negative outcome.

[Spargo]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

Yeah, I'll probably have a CC's while watching it.

I’ve got a dozen bottles of CUB’s finest that’ll see me til 3/4 time.

Longnecks not echoes I hope..

[Lightning McQueen]

Longnecks not echoes I hope..

Great minds

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Listening to SEN today so many people’s spirits have been lifted by the footy being back. That can only be a good thing

Don’t think it should be on, don’t watch it. Ratings will be enormous

Absolutely. Every single naysayer will be glued to the footy all weekend.
With the Group races going ahead as well a mighty fine few days ahead.