Please Explain How Judd can choose his next club?

[Squawk]

Who could ever forget Brett Chambers being heavily fined for refusing to join a club other than Collingwood?

Now though, it seems players CAN choose their club. I know they can name an asking price but how can they choose their club?

West Coast have three options -
1. trade him for the best deal they can get
2. trade him to his club of choice
3. Put him in the draft and get no return from Carlton with their no 1 pick.

Option 3 is out therefore (unlike Power/Nick Stevens outcome).

Option 1 seems to be playing by the rules.

Option 2 seems dubious and tantamount to draft tampering. Correct me if I am way off couse here please.....but would the AFL look at this differently if Judd, Kerr and other Victorian-raised Eagles all left the club simultaneously and all demanded to go to the same new club in Victoria?

Can anyone shed light on all this?

[JK]

Option 1 won't work coz he can refuse to go and just nominate for the draft, leaving Weagles with Zilch

[Strawb]

It is another Nick Stevens situation your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

[sydney-dog]

easy, a player needs to agree to the trade, or the trade cannot be finalised

[Dirko]

easy, a player needs to agree to the trade, or the trade cannot be finalised

Correct, and then the club has to agree with it. Of WCE don't agree with what say, Collingwood, offer then the deal falls through like Nick Stevens and Richmond will get him in the PSD.
BUT, in the PSD, do Richmond have to pay him what he's supposedly worth or can they make a offer and too bad ???

[JK]

easy, a player needs to agree to the trade, or the trade cannot be finalised

Correct, and then the club has to agree with it. Of WCE don't agree with what say, Collingwood, offer then the deal falls through like Nick Stevens and Richmond will get him in the PSD.
BUT, in the PSD, do Richmond have to pay him what he's supposedly worth or can they make a offer and too bad ???

I believe they still have to meet wage demand

[Pup]

easy, a player needs to agree to the trade, or the trade cannot be finalised

Correct, and then the club has to agree with it. Of WCE don't agree with what say, Collingwood, offer then the deal falls through like Nick Stevens and Richmond will get him in the PSD.
BUT, in the PSD, do Richmond have to pay him what he's supposedly worth or can they make a offer and too bad ???

If he enters the PSD then he sets his contract terms as in Length and amount of money, so if he slipped through Richmond would have to match say what Judd and Carlton had agreed to.

[Dirko]

Geez, Carlton have offered him big bucks, not sure on Richmond cap room..
In a very selfish way love to the trade fall through, Richmond unable to meet the contract,
Carlton grab him at 2, and still retain picks 1 & 3....ahhh wishful thinking

[Dog_ger]

He makes it known whom he wan'ts to play for in 2008.....

If his manager cannot arrange it between the 16 clubs.....

He sits out for 12 months and goes where he wants for free.....

He could announce his retirement now and change his mind in 2009......

Go wherever.....

I think...?

[Blue Boy]

He makes it known whom he wan'ts to play for in 2008.....

If his manager cannot arrange it between the 16 clubs.....

He sits out for 12 months and goes where he wants for free.....

He could announce his retirement now and change his mind in 2009......

Go wherever.....

I think...?

He is already gonna miss 4 months !!!

[GWW]

I think hes just saying who his PREFERRED club, i dont think hes going out and saying he wont play for anyone but club "x" as some players have in the past. Then its up to that particular club to try to negotiate with the Eagles, and if a deal cant be done he then has to reassess his options and consider other clubs.

[hearts on fire]

The best club for Judd is Collingwood because he is used to having a good midfield around him (Kerr and Cousins) they have a resonbly good midfield that can help him out and its probably one of the richest clubs in the AFL.

If he goes to Richmond or Carlton he will have to do all the work and these clubs still don't have the quality midfielders as other clubs do.

[Pup]

What about Hawthorn HOF, IMO their list is going to be better than Collingwood's in the next 4-5 years.

Dont rule out sides like Essendon, Judd is exactly what they need, Pace in the midfield.

Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy, and Heath Scotland would all benefit greatly from Judd being at Carlton as well..

Really any side who gets Judd is going to be better for it as long as dont give up to much for him. They will benefit On Field and Off Field.

[Pup]

He makes it known whom he wan'ts to play for in 2008.....

If his manager cannot arrange it between the 16 clubs.....

He sits out for 12 months and goes where he wants for free.....

He could announce his retirement now and change his mind in 2009......

Go wherever.....

I think...?

He is already gonna miss 4 months !!!

He should be right for Round 1 Barring no complications

[hearts on fire]

What about Hawthorn HOF, IMO their list is going to be better than Collingwood's in the next 4-5 years.

Dont rule out sides like Essendon, Judd is exactly what they need, Pace in the midfield. Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy, and Heath Scotland would all benefit greatly from Judd being at the club.

Really any side who gets Judd is going to be better for it as long as dont give up to much for him. They will benefit On Field and Off Field.

Any club will benifit with Judd.

but Judd wants to play finals football and I can't see Carlton, Richmond and Essendon making the finals in the next 4-5 years but if they do they wont cause any trouble.

If Judd wants a premiership or be at a successful victorian club, i think its Collingwood

[GWW]

What about Hawthorn HOF, IMO their list is going to be better than Collingwood's in the next 4-5 years.

Dont rule out sides like Essendon, Judd is exactly what they need, Pace in the midfield. Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy, and Heath Scotland would all benefit greatly from Judd being at the club.

Really any side who gets Judd is going to be better for it as long as dont give up to much for him. They will benefit On Field and Off Field.

Which club are you referring to here Pup?

[Pup]

What about Hawthorn HOF, IMO their list is going to be better than Collingwood's in the next 4-5 years.

Dont rule out sides like Essendon, Judd is exactly what they need, Pace in the midfield. Nick Stevens, Marc Murphy, and Heath Scotland would all benefit greatly from Judd being at the club.

Really any side who gets Judd is going to be better for it as long as dont give up to much for him. They will benefit On Field and Off Field.

Which club are you referring to here Pup?

Sorry meant to say they would all benefit as well if Judd went to Carlton..

[Pup]

If Judd wants a premiership or be at a successful victorian club, i think its Collingwood

For me its Hawthorn, All the talent in the world and add Judd to that and boy you have a good side. Hawthorn will have brand new facilities in the next 2 years as well.

But you are right that Collingwood in the box seat with Eddie and the Lexus centre, they are both great drawing cards not to mention they will be up there also in the next 4 years.

[Grahaml]

Ok, basically he doesn't actually get to name his club at all.

What he can do is tell the Eagles he wants to go to a certain club, and then the eagles need to work out a trade for him with that club. If the two clubs agree to a trade, then the deal is done. However, if the two clubs cannot agree, or west coast were to get a deal they liked with another club they could refuse to do the deal with the club Judd chooses. But, no deal can be made without Judd agreeing. If Judd is uncontracted as of the preseason draft, he can nominate for the preseason draft. He then names his contract terms (usually the deal he wants with his preferred club) and any club that can fulfill that contract can pick him, with the Eagles getting nothing.

The naming clubs thing is more done in the hope both clubs will do the right thing by the player's wishes. You would think that with what Judd has done for the Eagles they wouldn't be bastards like the Power/Stevens debacle, and given Judd's reputation his preferred club would do enough to appease the Eagles. In fact I think history will judge West coast as the winners. Got perhaps the best half of Judd's career and should get a ready made replacement and a talented kid or 2 talented kids.

Judd won't be standing out of footy or retiring. He would still have to go through the draft process as Michael and Lockett did when they came out of retirement. Difference then would be he would go into the National draft as he wouldn't be on a clubs books at the closing date for nominations for the national draft and you can't nominate for a draft if contracted to a club.

Chalmers was fined for telling other clubs he wouldn't play for them if they drafted him. If Judd was in the preseason draft then he couldn't tell Richmond not to draft him or he would be guilty of tampering with the draft.

[hearts on fire]

Personally, I think the Weagles would want a seasoned or young player with immense potential and AT LEAST one early draft pick for Judd.

For instance:

Either Brendan Fevola/Mark Austin + early draft pick = Judd to Carlton
Either Tim Boyle/Josh Thurgood + early draft pick = Judd to Hawthorn
Either Courtney Johns/Scott Gumbleton/Kepler Bradley + early draft pick = Judd to Essendon
Either Ben Reid/Alan Toovey/Alan Didak + early draft pick = Judd to Collingwood
Either Cleve Hughes/Jay Schulz + early draft pick = Judd to Richmond

West Coast's midfield is already dynamite, and Priddis can expect to take on Judd's workload next season. However, I have based my theory on the belief that West Coast is 1/2 key forwards/defenders short, so it's a 'needs basis' kind of deal.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Judd at Windy Hill, especially since the Bombers have a surplus of key position players, thus a little more bargaining power.

But my thoughts may be baseless, as I have no idea who has which picks in the draft.