2007 1st semi Eagles v Glenelg

[LPH]

get some decent fwds into the eags and they might be able to hang onto a 5 goal lead!

Perhaps our forward line needs a 'subsidy' ???

[Mickyj]

get some decent fwds into the eags and they might be able to hang onto a 5 goal lead!

Well I was calling for Rugolo to get recalled and Passador should be back this week .

[Grahaml]

Saw a close up of Colville on TV and he's carrying a few injuries now. Had bandages everywhere. Would think the passion might be dwindling to go through another preseason and then league season with the pain he must be in. Similar position to the Gowans, actually. If his hammys are going then it's going to be a real struggle to get on the park.

Anyway, neither team look particularly strong to me, but neither are they lacking in ability. Glenelg's on ball division look very good with Douglas and Backwell in particular but defense might be their achilles heel. In finals a strong defense is vital so Eagles should win IMO. I think the eagles look better without Passador at the moment. He isn't that big a bloke to start with and seems to have lost a bit of speed. Still deadly with the ball in his hands, but keeping the ball out of his hands seems to be a much easier task now.

[woodwt]

Passador in this week grocke out ( pathetic sunday )

[floataboy]

even though he does have his off days, the chopperdor would surely improve their fwd line from sunday?

and i agree grah.. coleville is looking every bit his age these days. am unsure of the amount of effective rehab that would go back into such a body. obviously not enough. he will be lucky to walk when he is 40! he definitely wont be heading to country footy next year and blowing them off the park anyhow... not as a player but perhaps as a coach

[LPH]

Will be a tough game to win.

Hopefully the wind stays away & both games can be a fair contest.

I feel pretty confident the Eagles will win.

I would like to see McGregor move to the back line, Grocke to start & Pass on the bench.
Would also like to see the young fella Petrenko play.
I would leave Inkster out as he hasn't been fit all year, could be used as a 'pinch hitter' next week if we get through.

[Mickyj]

Look is it just me or do the EAGLES miss a small forward ?
Two weeks in a row the Eagles could have used one IMHO.

[LPH]

Look is it just me or do the EAGLES miss a small forward ?
Two weeks in a row the Eagles could have used one IMHO.

Have been saying ALL YEAR...

"The one player we have missed is Westbrook"

He could not only 'crumb' a goal but could take a 'grab'.

Sadly, Symo is NOT in the same 'league' as Westy.

[locky801]

get some decent fwds into the eags and they might be able to hang onto a 5 goal lead!

Well I was calling for Rugolo to get recalled and Passador should be back this week .

But does Ronny want Passador

[Dog_ger]

What a couple of Great Games this weekend.

Could be close.... Could be a blowout...?

Both Games either way......

SANFL is Alive and Well....

[corona]

Have been saying ALL YEAR...

"The one player we have missed is Westbrook"

He could not only 'crumb' a goal but could take a 'grab'.

Sadly, Symo is NOT in the same 'league' as Westy.[/quote]

Geddes was the player they hoped would replace westbrook but he broke his arm round one.
he might be a chance this week after being on standby for grocke last week.

Passador could come in too if fit and Fairclough will replace colville.
Treeby should be ok.
I dont think rugulo will get a game, he seems to be on the outer lately

[Wedgie]

Crikey these Eagles fans are almost as quick to turn as North fans.
We tried telling them Ken McGregor was a big in for them a month ago but they swore Adam Grocke was better, now they're all asking for Grocke's head!

[Wedgie]

FIRST SEMI FINAL
12.10pm, Sunday September 23 @ Adelaide Oval

All Time Record : Played 47, Eagles won 31, Glenelg won 13, Drawn 3
All Time @ Adelaide : Played 2, Split with one win each
All Recent Encounters : Eagles have won 6 of the last 8, with 1 draw

Recent Results
2007 Rd 23 Sept 8 @ Wooodville Eagles 13.14.92 v Glenelg 14.8.92 DRAW
2007 Rd 16 July 22 @ Woodville Eagles 17.12.114 d Glenelg 13.15.93 by 11pts
2007 Rd 6 May 13 @ Chall Rec Eagles 16.9.105 d Glenelg 11.10.76 by 29pts
2006 Rd 11 June 17 @ Thebarton Eagles 15.9.99 d Glenelg 13.9.87 by 12pts
2006 Rd 2 Apr 8 @ Glenelg Glenelg 16.9.105 d Eagles 10.10.70 by 35pts

Last Final
1999 QF Sept 12 @ Football Pk Eagles 11.13.79 d Glenelg 10.8.68 by 11pts

Last Draw
2007 Rd 23 Sept 8 @ Woodville Eagles 13.14.92 v Glenelg 14.8.92

RECORDS Eagles on left, Glenelg or right
Highest Score 26.11.167 (Rd9 May6 2000 @Wd) 24.12.156 (Rd8 May11 1991 @FP)
Lowest Score 5.4.34 (Rd1 Mar27 1999 @Gl) 4.6.30 (2 times, last Rd 6 2001)
Highest Losing Score 18.6.114 (Rd8 May 11 1991 @FP) 16.11.107 (Rd2 Apr2 2005 @Gl)
Lowest Winning Score 10.17.77 (Rd6 May5 2001 @Ad) 8.8.56 (Rd1 Mar27 1999 @Gl)

EAGLES NOTES
- Ninth Consecutive Finals Series (Club* Record & Longest Current Streak in SANFL). In past 8 Eagles have won at least one final.
- Over the last eight years Eagles have finish Premiers once, Runners Up four times, Third twice and Fourth once.
- Since 1991 (merger) Eagles have played 36 finals & are in 14th finals series (both SANFL highs)
- Ron Fuller holds Club* record for most games coached (159) and won (105) (both current SANFL highs)
- Looking to win consecutive premierships for first time in Club* history
NB Club* (includes West Torrens FC, Woodville FC & Woodville-West Torrens FC)

GLENELG NOTES
- First Finals Series Since 1999 (have broken longest current streak out of Major Round), Last Premiership 1986
- In 1999, 1st final was the Qualfying against the Eagles (coached by Mark Mickan). Tigers lost by 11pts & First Semi to Norwood by 14pts
- Last week was first finals win since 1992 Preliminary Final v Eagles
- Last premiership in any grade was Under 19’s in 1992. (Longest drought in the SANFL). In 2007 they have League, Reserves & Under 19 all participating in the finals.

TEAM STATS RANKINGS
STAT (per game) Glenelg on left, Eagles on right
Points Scored 103 (2th) 100.1 (3rd)
Points Allowed 87 (3) 92 (5th)
Kicks 175 (8th) 180 (6th)
Handballs 116 (4th) 104 (8th)
Possessions 291 (7th) 284 (9th)
Marks 85 (6th) 76 (9th)
Scoring Shots 27.0 (2nd) 26.3 (4th)
Accuracy % 56.2 (3rd) 56.0 (4th)
Frees For 22.5 (1st) 21.2 (4th)
Frees Ag 18.9 (9th) 19.8 (8th)
Ball Eff* 10.81 (1st) 10.82 (2nd)
*Possessions per scoring shot
NB – AS AT END OF MINOR ROUND

CURRENT INDIVIDUAL STATS (Includes Finals)

POSSESSION LEADERS
Eagles
Treeby 421 20.0
Jarrad 411 19.6
Powell 367 18.4
Vince 331 23.6
Glenelg
Fisher 494 23.0
Kane 458 21.8
Backwell 456 25.3
Mules 369 17.6

EAGLES SCORING
Schwartze 45.18
Passador 42.9
Salter 32.16
Grocke 23.14
Vince 18.10
Symmons 14.14
Treeby 12.10
Batsanis 12.5
McGregor 12.4

GLENELG SCORING
McConnell 63.30
Mitchell 21.15
Kirkby 18.8
Moore 18.6
Douglas 17.9
Mahoney 16.6
Duldig 16.5
Backwell 15.15
Ruwolt 14.2

FIRST SEMI FINAL FACTS
All Time Standings (Since Paige System Introduced in 1931)

Code: Select all

Team P W L D Pct High Score Low Score Last W Last L Streak
Glenelg 15 9 6 - 67 15.17.107 v St 1982 9.5.59 v Nw 1983 1992 1999 L2
West 13 8 4 1 65 16.16.112 v St 1947 7.9.51 v NA 1968 1991 1968 W2
Port 13 8 5 - 62 22.13.145 v Nw 1998 7.22.64 v St 1932 2001 2000 W1
Central 7 4 3 - 57 19.7.121 v Nw 1972 7.18.60 v Gl 1988 1997 1989 W2
Sturt 18 10 8 - 56 24.7.151 v NA 1983 4.9.33 v WA 1948 2004 2003 W1
North 19 9 9 1 50 23.14.152 v SA 1990 10.13.73 v Nw 1933 1990 2005 L5
Norwood 33 15 18 1 47 19.19.133 v SA 1981 5.11.41 v NA 1956 2002 2001 W1
Eagles 5 2 3 - 40 16.14.110 v NA 2005 5.6.36 v Nw 1996 2005 2002 W2
South 8 3 6 - 33 19.15.129 v NA 1940 5.6.36 v WA 1977 1979 1990 L2
Woodville 1 1 - - 100 18.20.128 v PA 1986 18.20.128 v PA 1986 (W) 1986 - W1
Torrens 16 4 11 1 41 18.8.116 v WA 1949 7.11.53 v Gl 1951 1954 1962 L4

In 33 years under a Final Five Structure
- 18 First Semi Final Victors were Elimination Final Losers
- 15 First Semi Fiinal Victors were Qualifying Final Losers
- Last Qualifying Final loser to be bundled out in straight sets – Port 2000

Of the 73 First Semi Final Victors since 1931
- 8 (11%) win the Premiership (Sturt 32 & 76, Port 58 & 98, North 31, Torrens 45, West 47 & Norwood 84)
- 28 (38%) finish 2nd (36 49% won the Prelim Final)
- 37 (51%) finish 3rd, ie lose Prelim Final

First Semi Final Records
Highest Score North 23.14.152 d South 14.12.96 (1990)
Lowest Score West 7.18.60 d Sturt 4.9.33 (1948)
Largest Winning Margin 83 points – Norwood 19.19.133 d South 6.14.50

Recent First Semi Finals
2006 @ Adelaide North 14.18.102 d South 11.11.77 by 25pts 9,328 (dh)
2005 @ Adelaide Eagles 16.14.110 d North 15.9.99 by 11pts 12,056 (dh)
2004 @ Adelaide Sturt 22.10.142 d North 12.12.84 by 58pts 13,081 (dh)
2003 @ AAMI Eagles 10.18.78 d Sturt 8.5.53 by 25pts 6,212 (single)
2002 @ AAMI Norwood 8.14.62 d Eagles 8.12.60 by 2pts 12,467 (dh)
2001 @ AAMI Port 18.9.117 d Norwood 9.19.73 by 44pts 18,463 (dh)
2000 @ AAMI Sturt 16.14.110 d Port 13.13.91 by 18pts 20,321 (dh)
1999 @ AAMI Norwood 12.9.81 d Glenelg 10.7.67 by 14pts 20,685 (dh)
1998 @ AAMI Port 22.13.145 d Norwood 10.9.69 by 76pts 23,102 (dh)
1997 @ AAMI Central 15.10.100 d North 12.9.81 by 19pts 22,749 (dh)
1996 @ AAMI Norwood 12.8.80 d Eagles 5.6.36 by 44pts 31,604 (dh)

[Mickyj]

Crikey these Eagles fans are almost as quick to turn as North fans.
We tried telling them Ken McGregor was a big in for them a month ago but they swore Adam Grocke was better, now they're all asking for Grocke's head!

Thats a bit rough on me WEDGIE as it was me saying Grocke was better than kenny mac.
Grocke had a very bad game on Sunday he gave away to many 25 metre penalties and they ALL resulted in goals to North.This could be due to his injury as reported on this forum .
Kenny mac is not the answer up forward he does his best but I think he needs to play down back as he did earlier in the year.

[Wedgie]

Grocke had a very bad game on Sunday he gave away to many 25 metre penalties and they ALL resulted in goals to North.This could be due to his injury as reported on this forum .

Must be a weird injury!
All these years I thought Josh Coulter had a discipline issue at times and it turns out he may have just been carrying an injury!

[Stevie_K]

Should make this a poll to see where the forums thoughts lie

[Aerie]

Crikey these Eagles fans are almost as quick to turn as North fans.
We tried telling them Ken McGregor was a big in for them a month ago but they swore Adam Grocke was better, now they're all asking for Grocke's head!

Adam Grocke was one of our best players through the period earlier in the season and right through to when he got injured about a month ago. His efforts were sensational and he was in career best form. When the chips were down he was one player who lifted the side. Unfortunately, the way he has played in the past fortnight since coming back from injury hasn't been up to the standards he has set IMO. Perhaps this is also due to him playing a different rolegiven Ken has been at CHF. He doesn't look right physically and we all know his athleticism is one of the key components of his game. Players must learn to play with injury and if he gets another opportunity he needs to show he can still perform. I believe he has it in him to dig deep and perform.

Everyone has been saying how good the form of the Eagles has been, but IMO the best we played was in the period leading up to and including the game at Elizabeth. We have been so/so since then, but have generally managed to win.

Our best performances came when we had a forward line of Schwarze at FF, Salter floating forward and Grocke CHF. I thought our forward line functioned well when Passador was playing as well. I think Ken should be at CHB or deeper forward.

My team for this week:

Rugolo Schwarze Cooper
Salter Grocke Vince
Jarrad Cicolella Treeby
P Fiacchi McGregor McKenzie
Stewart Pedler Hier
Lindsay Powell Fairclough
Lomas Dabrowski Petrenko

IN: Rugolo (replacement for Symmons, he kicks goals, that's what we need, his last chance you would think), Fairclough (been good this year and more pace, start him on the ball), Petrenko (pace and talent, set him free and let him show what he can do at this level, don't just play him in the back line!!!)
OUT: Redden (not up to league standard yet), Symmons (poor form for the past month), Colville (injured)

[Mickyj]

Grocke had a very bad game on Sunday he gave away to many 25 metre penalties and they ALL resulted in goals to North.This could be due to his injury as reported on this forum .

Must be a weird injury!
All these years I thought Josh Coulter had a discipline issue at times and it turns out he may have just been carrying an injury!

Only SAYING what WAS posted on this site.IE Grocke had a fitness test SUNDAY morning.
But other than that you are spot on lack of discipline.

[Mickyj]

Crikey these Eagles fans are almost as quick to turn as North fans.
We tried telling them Ken McGregor was a big in for them a month ago but they swore Adam Grocke was better, now they're all asking for Grocke's head!

Adam Grocke was one of our best players through the period earlier in the season and right through to when he got injured about a month ago. His efforts were sensational and he was in career best form. When the chips were down he was one player who lifted the side. Unfortunately, the way he has played in the past fortnight since coming back from injury hasn't been up to the standards he has set IMO. Perhaps this is also due to him playing a different rolegiven Ken has been at CHF. He doesn't look right physically and we all know his athleticism is one of the key components of his game. Players must learn to play with injury and if he gets another opportunity he needs to show he can still perform. I believe he has it in him to dig deep and perform.

Everyone has been saying how good the form of the Eagles has been, but IMO the best we played was in the period leading up to and including the game at Elizabeth. We have been so/so since then, but have generally managed to win.

Our best performances came when we had a forward line of Schwarze at FF, Salter floating forward and Grocke CHF. I thought our forward line functioned well when Passador was playing as well. I think Ken should be at CHB or deeper forward.

My team for this week:

Rugolo Schwarze Cooper
Salter Grocke Vince
Jarrad Cicolella Treeby
P Fiacchi McGregor McKenzie
Stewart Pedler Hier
Lindsay Powell Fairclough
Lomas Dabrowski Petrenko

IN: Rugolo (replacement for Symmons, he kicks goals, that's what we need, his last chance you would think), Fairclough (been good this year and more pace, start him on the ball), Petrenko (pace and talent, set him free and let him show what he can do at this level, don't just play him in the back line!!!)
OUT: Redden (not up to league standard yet), Symmons (poor form for the past month), Colville (injured)

I agree Aerie .
But would like to add when the eagles started to win YOUTH stepped up .What happened to youth on Sunday not playing with the exception of Redden.
And Ron was out coached
Players out classed.
This result should have happened the week before against Glenelg .But seeing it has happened against North this should be the wake up call the side needed .

[Wedgie]

Good explanation Aerie, cheers.