by Tony Clifton » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:48 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:05 am
Tony Clifton wrote:Does the Allan Border Medal incorporate all three formats in the one count?
by billy » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:13 pm
bulldogproud wrote:For how long is Grade Cricket going to be the 'fall guy' for the poorer performances of the Redbacks? WA has sixteen teams in Premier cricket but don't see that as a problem. Tasmania, with less than a third of SA's population, has nine teams. The Redbacks problems go a lot deeper than Grade cricket. Besides, the State selectors don't even appear to look at Grade Cricket performances when selecting their teams.
Cheers
by Tony Clifton » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:23 pm
billy wrote:Appalling culture, stuck with a boys club in SACA, the stories coming out of the Redbacks detail how bad it has allegedly become. The coach is allegedly blissfully ignorant, would be pleased if the players are put out of their misery and he is moved on before the end of the season so everybody can move forward. His alleged attitude and conversations with his young players indicate absolute indifference to their development. How poor does a situation have to be before action is taken, this is not a pub team, SACA have thousands of members and supporters who would appreciate some action being taken to enable us to restore some pride in our cricket team. The AFL leave this type of sports coaching and administration in their wake, it is difficult for people to continue to put their time into young cricketers when this type of culture and coaching at State level is accepted as the norm.
by Minimum Chips » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:42 am
Tony Clifton wrote:billy wrote:Appalling culture, stuck with a boys club in SACA, the stories coming out of the Redbacks detail how bad it has allegedly become. The coach is allegedly blissfully ignorant, would be pleased if the players are put out of their misery and he is moved on before the end of the season so everybody can move forward. His alleged attitude and conversations with his young players indicate absolute indifference to their development. How poor does a situation have to be before action is taken, this is not a pub team, SACA have thousands of members and supporters who would appreciate some action being taken to enable us to restore some pride in our cricket team. The AFL leave this type of sports coaching and administration in their wake, it is difficult for people to continue to put their time into young cricketers when this type of culture and coaching at State level is accepted as the norm.
What are the stories?
by Catter4lyfe » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:02 am
by the smokey » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:32 am
by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:09 am
the smokey wrote:Unfortunately, the grade system is nowhere near as strong as it was 10-20 years ago.
This means that the leap from A grade cricket to state cricket is as large as it ever been. There are fewer state players playing A-grade cricket than now than I can remember at any point in the time. This means that the standard is nowhere near as good and the fringe players dominate.
The junior system is very strange and the majority of the youth of today are more mentally fragile than ever before. This means that they want everything handed to them on a silver platter with only a few willing to accept criticism - You find the ones that are will to take this criticism/feedback on board are the ones who tend to make it.
So this means that when things get too hard they look for alternative easier options such as changing clubs, not playing at all or going to play a lower standard of cricket elsewhere with their mates. None of those are bad for the individual but do not help the overall standard of cricket in SA.
this has been happening for numerous year and there is no quick fix. Yes the SACA is culpable and it always seems to come back to the number of sides in the grade comp.
I know this has been mentioned before The SACA are never going to get rid of sides and never going to force 2 sides to merge. So i think that a relegation/ promotion system may be the best bet. 6 or seven in div one and the remaining in div 2. Have the one day comp and 20/20 comps include all 13 and go from there.
In relation to what happens at the top of SACA nothing is going to change there until there is a massive overhaul at the top which may never happen or not for a long time.
by Minimum Chips » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:11 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Realistically 10 teams is enough for the top division, the SACA doesn't have the power to enforce mergers.
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by Aeropti » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:54 pm
Tony Clifton wrote:Prospect 58 all out this time. Ouch
by Eagles2014 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:48 pm
Aeropti wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:Prospect 58 all out this time. Ouch
What's the go out there? why have they struggled down the bottom for so long?
Must be some serious underlying issues?
by Tony Clifton » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:01 pm
by Eagles2014 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:20 pm
Tony Clifton wrote:Clubs get stuck in a downward spiral.
Tough to retain players when you're losing matches regularly
Tough to attract new players when you're losing matches regularly
So your two sources of quality senior players - juniors and recruitment - dry up.
It's hard to build something.
Prospect have got Broken Hill as a country zone and I can't imagine they get much from there
by Minimum Chips » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:46 am
Eagles2014 wrote:Aeropti wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:Prospect 58 all out this time. Ouch
What's the go out there? why have they struggled down the bottom for so long?
Must be some serious underlying issues?
If you want to go to 12 team comp there is your answer!'
by The Hound » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:43 am
Minimum Chips wrote:Eagles2014 wrote:Aeropti wrote:Tony Clifton wrote:Prospect 58 all out this time. Ouch
What's the go out there? why have they struggled down the bottom for so long?
Must be some serious underlying issues?
If you want to go to 12 team comp there is your answer!'
Yep - merge Prospect with Uni. Gets rid of the bye and gives Uni a junior zone to work with so they don't have to pinch them off everyone else.
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