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Re: 2020 Player movement

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DOC wrote:Not sure if North (or anyone) were keen on Aaron Young but he has signed with Aspley in the NEAFL. Only 26, still has a lot of footy in him.


Agreed. He would have a big impact in this comp. The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.


I wonder how much these clubs are given by the AFL to pay players? Would the reason why the AFL wants to see the SANFL lower the salary cap be to drive more players into the NEAFL to a)increase the profile of the sport in this area and b)lower the cost to the AFL in the NEAFL.

There is no logical reason for a player to play in the NEAFL especially if they have aspirations of being redrafted
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LMA wrote:
DOC wrote:Not sure if North (or anyone) were keen on Aaron Young but he has signed with Aspley in the NEAFL. Only 26, still has a lot of footy in him.


Agreed. He would have a big impact in this comp. The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.


My observations were that Andrew Moore absolutely bought in to playing for North when dropped from the Power whereas Aaron Young didn't seem to. Hence North have recruited Moore and not Young.
Only my observation and not necessarily the thoughts of anyone at the club.
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daysofourlives wrote:
LMA wrote:
DOC wrote:Not sure if North (or anyone) were keen on Aaron Young but he has signed with Aspley in the NEAFL. Only 26, still has a lot of footy in him.


Agreed. He would have a big impact in this comp. The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.


I wonder how much these clubs are given by the AFL to pay players? Would the reason why the AFL wants to see the SANFL lower the salary cap be to drive more players into the NEAFL to a)increase the profile of the sport in this area and b)lower the cost to the AFL in the NEAFL.

There is no logical reason for a player to play in the NEAFL especially if they have aspirations of being redrafted

Nothing would surprise me . It may seem far fetched but we are talking the AFL .
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daysofourlives wrote:
LMA wrote:
DOC wrote:Not sure if North (or anyone) were keen on Aaron Young but he has signed with Aspley in the NEAFL. Only 26, still has a lot of footy in him.


Agreed. He would have a big impact in this comp. The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.


I wonder how much these clubs are given by the AFL to pay players? Would the reason why the AFL wants to see the SANFL lower the salary cap be to drive more players into the NEAFL to a)increase the profile of the sport in this area and b)lower the cost to the AFL in the NEAFL.

There is no logical reason for a player to play in the NEAFL especially if they have aspirations of being redrafted


Not buying this theory. Not sure if Pokies are only in sporting/community clubs over there but that would generate good cash as opposed to them being in every suburb over here. I agree the AFL would probably invest more into grassroots up there to try and achieve the domination they desire.
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So you agree but disagree :shock:
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Brett wrote:So you agree but disagree :shock:


Disagree that the AFL would give clubs money to pay players as theorised, investment in grassroots however? Read again :shock:
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Yep , you agree but disagree and not sure where the Pokies came from regarding this . Back to the topic though.

It is certainly a valid point that was made . Like I said its the AFL so anything is possible.
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Brett wrote:Yep , you agree but disagree and not sure where the Pokies came from regarding this . Back to the topic though.

It is certainly a valid point that was made . Like I said its the AFL so anything is possible.


OK Michael
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Always a good out on forums when you have nothing .
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Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.
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daysofourlives wrote:
LMA wrote:
DOC wrote:The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.

I wonder how much these clubs are given by the AFL to pay players? Would the reason why the AFL wants to see the SANFL lower the salary cap be to drive more players into the NEAFL to a)increase the profile of the sport in this area and b)lower the cost to the AFL in the NEAFL.
There is no logical reason for a player to play in the NEAFL especially if they have aspirations of being redrafted


Read section 17 of this PDF document
https://cdn.neafl.com.au/raw/2019neaflr ... e05561.pdf

17.2Total Player Payments Non AFL-Clubs shall be bound by the following TPP limits based on eighteen (18) home and away rounds:
(a)A Base Maximum of $225,000.
(b)In addition to Rule 17.2(a)above, Clubs will be eligible to spendup to a combined total of $50,000 for two players who are deemed (by the AFL) to be ‘Marquee Players’.
(c)In addition to Rule 17.2 (a) and (b) the Canberra Demons will be eligible to spend an additional$75,000 to assist in recruitment and retention of talent into Canberra.
(d)A Club may apply to have coaching payments for their head playing coach excluded from the TPP so long as that Club cans ubmit two separate contracts to the AFL –one for coaching and one for playing. However, as a minimum,at least 20% (for playing 18 matches) of their total payments will be included in the TPP.
(e)Total Player Payments in respect of each finals match appearance by the Club’s competition team shall be the salary cap total(base + marquee)divided by the number of Home & Away Matches, plus 10% for finals match incentive payments.

On face value non AFL clubs have more salary under cap than SANFL club
Need to read all as I have not included all all details
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Brett wrote:Always a good out on forums when you have nothing .


Would of thought you would of changed your M.O. by now :lol:
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Brett wrote:Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.

For some clubs yes they have been busy.
So far only 4 recruits for dogs and missed Jack Hannath.
Are we likely to recruit anyone else
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TDJ44 wrote:
Brett wrote:Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.

For some clubs yes they have been busy.
So far only 4 recruits for dogs and missed Jack Hannath.
Are we likely to recruit anyone else


But one of those 4 recruits for us is probably our best of the past decade. Daniel Menzel will be fantastic for younger players like Corey Durdin, East, Dew, Presbury. And he'll be playing alongside his brother.
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Al22 wrote:
TDJ44 wrote:
Brett wrote:Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.

For some clubs yes they have been busy.
So far only 4 recruits for dogs and missed Jack Hannath.
Are we likely to recruit anyone else


But one of those 4 recruits for us is probably our best of the past decade. Daniel Menzel will be fantastic for younger players like Corey Durdin, East, Dew, Presbury. And he'll be playing alongside his brother.


We may yet pick up a couple who are available as the VFL are not running a Reserves comp this year, so some lads looking for a home.
However, these wouldn't be top end.
I believe we have 5 top line SANFL players (2 Schillers, 2 Menzels and Hoskin) which falls short of 7 or 8 circa Glenelg this year and Norwood and Sturt of recently passed Premiership sides.
Needing Pres, Fort and youngsters like Durdin, East, Robinson, Marsh and PAtterson to step up to be at the top end of the table.
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oldfella wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:
LMA wrote:
DOC wrote:The KNEEFULL must pay some good coin.

I wonder how much these clubs are given by the AFL to pay players? Would the reason why the AFL wants to see the SANFL lower the salary cap be to drive more players into the NEAFL to a)increase the profile of the sport in this area and b)lower the cost to the AFL in the NEAFL.
There is no logical reason for a player to play in the NEAFL especially if they have aspirations of being redrafted


Read section 17 of this PDF document
https://cdn.neafl.com.au/raw/2019neaflr ... e05561.pdf

17.2Total Player Payments Non AFL-Clubs shall be bound by the following TPP limits based on eighteen (18) home and away rounds:
(a)A Base Maximum of $225,000.
(b)In addition to Rule 17.2(a)above, Clubs will be eligible to spendup to a combined total of $50,000 for two players who are deemed (by the AFL) to be ‘Marquee Players’.
(c)In addition to Rule 17.2 (a) and (b) the Canberra Demons will be eligible to spend an additional$75,000 to assist in recruitment and retention of talent into Canberra.
(d)A Club may apply to have coaching payments for their head playing coach excluded from the TPP so long as that Club cans ubmit two separate contracts to the AFL –one for coaching and one for playing. However, as a minimum,at least 20% (for playing 18 matches) of their total payments will be included in the TPP.
(e)Total Player Payments in respect of each finals match appearance by the Club’s competition team shall be the salary cap total(base + marquee)divided by the number of Home & Away Matches, plus 10% for finals match incentive payments.

On face value non AFL clubs have more salary under cap than SANFL club
Need to read all as I have not included all all details



You would imagine their top end talent would get a lot of the cap with the locals being worth bugger all, more so than SANFL players
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northerner wrote:
Al22 wrote:
TDJ44 wrote:
Brett wrote:Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.

For some clubs yes they have been busy.
So far only 4 recruits for dogs and missed Jack Hannath.
Are we likely to recruit anyone else


But one of those 4 recruits for us is probably our best of the past decade. Daniel Menzel will be fantastic for younger players like Corey Durdin, East, Dew, Presbury. And he'll be playing alongside his brother.


We may yet pick up a couple who are available as the VFL are not running a Reserves comp this year, so some lads looking for a home.
However, these wouldn't be top end.
I believe we have 5 top line SANFL players (2 Schillers, 2 Menzels and Hoskin) which falls short of 7 or 8 circa Glenelg this year and Norwood and Sturt of recently passed Premiership sides.
Needing Pres, Fort and youngsters like Durdin, East, Robinson, Marsh and PAtterson to step up to be at the top end of the table.

Basically hoping for improvement then as the list is no stronger than last season.
Jyden Neagle replaced by Dan Menzel .
We don't have a ruckman or a key forward so going to need massive improvement from somewhere.
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Menzel will kick 30+ goals next season, probably more than any key forward would. These days 40-50 goals wins you the Ken Farmer Medal.

Centrals have done better than the Eagles in the recruiting stakes so far in grabbing an ex-AFL player who you can expect will have a very strong season next year. I expect Eagles will fall one or two places next year as we will be heavily dependent on our juniors stepping up.
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Mr Fuller wrote:Menzel will kick 30+ goals next season, probably more than any key forward would. These days 40-50 goals wins you the Ken Farmer Medal.

Centrals have done better than the Eagles in the recruiting stakes so far in grabbing an ex-AFL player who you can expect will have a very strong season next year. I expect Eagles will fall one or two places next year as we will be heavily dependent on our juniors stepping up.


Realistically any more than 12 games out of him is a bonus. It's reported he's over his injuries but I think Centrals need to err on the side of caution. Played 6 NEAFL and 7 AFL games this season.
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TDJ44 wrote:
Brett wrote:Back to the topic . It seems this year has been one of the busiest off seasons for clubs with a lot of ins and outs . Seems quite high on comparison to other years.

For some clubs yes they have been busy.
So far only 4 recruits for dogs and missed Jack Hannath.
Are we likely to recruit anyone else

Yes, a big lad from up north, won't join us until the season up there is over in Feb, about 193cms & 95 kgs,
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