by Q. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:53 pm
by northerner » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:13 pm
Q. wrote:When was the last time we went a home test series without someone scoring a century?
by locky801 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:16 pm
Q. wrote:When was the last time we went a home test series without someone scoring a century?
by Q. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:21 pm
Harris and Head have ten tests between them and you expect them to bat with the mastery of Pujara?northerner wrote:Q. wrote:When was the last time we went a home test series without someone scoring a century?
And heres the answer to your question re patience and concentration and the Aussie cricketer.
Harris had a ton on toast. Brain fade.
Head has ability... every innings this series he has made a start. Yet he has a litany of brain fades that are surely concentration lapses.
The list of examples is endless.
A great example of mindset would be to compare the leaves of Indian batsmen compared to ours. If we leave two we feel a compulsion to belt the next.
India are showing on the field what is required for Test cricket. But its the struggles that these guys overcame to get to Test level that sets them above us. Ours do not want to do the hard yards. It's the same generation who is walking away from SANFL footy aged 25 to play country footy. They aint interested in pushing themselves when the rewards are ample with less work required.
Aussie culture is softer than that of India. And the result is on show atm.
by Jase » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:23 pm
by whufc » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:24 pm
Q. wrote:Are teenagers incapable of learning the art of patience?locky801 wrote:Q. wrote:northerner wrote:And there lies the issues... not selectors nor coaches or pitches. Our generation of youngsters lack the persistence patience and concentration. They cannot be bothered learning (unless its a gamer on youtube) and have no motivation to aspire as they have all they need as it is.
This is an absurd generalization
as they said on the ABC yesterday, kids cricket these days up to U14';s are only allowed to make 20 or bat 4 overs, how can they learn patience and concentration as a younger player with crap rules like that.
Its all about the quick bash and quick grab for cash, kids and parents dont want to spend hours on end on a weekend playing/watching cricket when it can all be done and dusted in a few hours, sad but true
by locky801 » Sat Jan 05, 2019 4:49 pm
Jase wrote:
Warney actually said he'll get better... Hey? What the actual heck is going on... have the Marsh family got some sort of magical power over everyone in Australian cricket?
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by Grenville » Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:29 pm
locky801 wrote:Jase wrote:
Warney actually said he'll get better... Hey? What the actual heck is going on... have the Marsh family got some sort of magical power over everyone in Australian cricket?
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well lets be honest he can't get any worse
by RB » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:02 pm
Jase wrote:Warney actually said he'll get better... Hey? What the actual heck is going on... have the Marsh family got some sort of magical power over everyone in Australian cricket?
by northerner » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:27 pm
Q. wrote:Harris and Head have ten tests between them and you expect them to bat with the mastery of Pujara?northerner wrote:Q. wrote:When was the last time we went a home test series without someone scoring a century?
And heres the answer to your question re patience and concentration and the Aussie cricketer.
Harris had a ton on toast. Brain fade.
Head has ability... every innings this series he has made a start. Yet he has a litany of brain fades that are surely concentration lapses.
The list of examples is endless.
A great example of mindset would be to compare the leaves of Indian batsmen compared to ours. If we leave two we feel a compulsion to belt the next.
India are showing on the field what is required for Test cricket. But its the struggles that these guys overcame to get to Test level that sets them above us. Ours do not want to do the hard yards. It's the same generation who is walking away from SANFL footy aged 25 to play country footy. They aint interested in pushing themselves when the rewards are ample with less work required.
Aussie culture is softer than that of India. And the result is on show atm.
You're the one lacking patience.
by Grenville » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:56 pm
RB wrote:Jase wrote:Warney actually said he'll get better... Hey? What the actual heck is going on... have the Marsh family got some sort of magical power over everyone in Australian cricket?
It's a cult, plain and simple.
by Yank Man » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:01 pm
by Sharksta » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:14 pm
by Q. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:49 pm
northerner wrote:Q. wrote:Harris and Head have ten tests between them and you expect them to bat with the mastery of Pujara?northerner wrote:Q. wrote:When was the last time we went a home test series without someone scoring a century?
And heres the answer to your question re patience and concentration and the Aussie cricketer.
Harris had a ton on toast. Brain fade.
Head has ability... every innings this series he has made a start. Yet he has a litany of brain fades that are surely concentration lapses.
The list of examples is endless.
A great example of mindset would be to compare the leaves of Indian batsmen compared to ours. If we leave two we feel a compulsion to belt the next.
India are showing on the field what is required for Test cricket. But its the struggles that these guys overcame to get to Test level that sets them above us. Ours do not want to do the hard yards. It's the same generation who is walking away from SANFL footy aged 25 to play country footy. They aint interested in pushing themselves when the rewards are ample with less work required.
Aussie culture is softer than that of India. And the result is on show atm.
You're the one lacking patience.
Mate you are proving my point. Harris is 26 and Head is 25. Guys that age were much more advanced in Aussie Test teams 15 yrs ago.
And just to further my point about this being a cultural phenomenon... Pant showed plenty of patience in his knock yesterday. Age... 21.
Privthi Shaw has played two tests for India against England IN England. Scored 134 in one hit. Age... 18.
I aint comparing Head and Harris to Pujara. I am comparing the youngest team members of both sides... and the Indian 18 to 21 yr olds have far more patience and concentration than the Aussies in their mid 20s.
by Q. » Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:53 pm
whufc wrote:Patience is extremly difficult to train. We see this in the health and fitness industry all the time, it’s easy to train one on how to do a bench press or dead lift but extremly extremly hard to encourage/train and motivate one to continue training the amount of time required to see results.
From my understanding patience is generally taught at an extremly early developmental age and even if one becomes more patient as a teenager/adult their preference is to still not be patient
We live in a fast food society unfortunately. The amount of times I will have someone and in a lot of cases 13-25 year olds message our work Facebook page to then send a secondary message 5 minutes later saying ?????. This despite the fact it’s generally at 9,10,11pm
by northerner » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:48 pm
Q. wrote:northerner wrote:Q. wrote:
Hardly - a couple of anecdotal examples isn't the same as robust statistical evidence.
The only cultural phenomenon likely to be witnessed is that the statistical probability that India's population of 1.3 billion produced generationally gifted cricketers completely dwarfs the statistical probability of Australia's 25 million population being able to produce them.
by The Dark Knight » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:09 am
by Spargo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:50 am
The Dark Knight wrote:A nice snapshot of the past to put a smile on our faces
by The Dark Knight » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:18 am
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