by dogbreath » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:45 pm
by robranisgod » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:14 pm
dogbreath wrote:So the AFL is testing the water with this idea !!!
Time for Olsen and his cronies to start representing and protecting the SANFL competition instead of continuing to be puppets.
My guess is the silence will be deafening.
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/new ... tr978m9kbp
by LMA » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:30 pm
by gadj1976 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:53 pm
by gadj1976 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:54 pm
LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
by dogbreath » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:12 pm
gadj1976 wrote:I actually don't mind this idea. Some SANFL players play for the opportunity to play at AFL level. Some of those players might miss out during draft time because of injury or form and decide to ply their trade under the eyes of the AFL's scouts.
The reasons they miss out is because they many-fold. The mid season draft gives them an opportunity if the need arises because of form or injury to key personnel. It could be the opportunity they need to get into the AFL and from there who knows.
Also, think about it, if I'm a kid who misses out on the draft, I have two options. Try SANFL or just go to Ammo's or country. This may actually entice them to stay in the State league.
I'm assuming the player has the opportunity to say 'no'?
If I were a coach in the SANFL you go in eyes wide open. You always try and promote your players to play at the highest level, so you shouldn't be against this, although they could way-lay your short term plans by losing key personnel on the way through.
by gadj1976 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:13 pm
dogbreath wrote:gadj1976 wrote:I actually don't mind this idea. Some SANFL players play for the opportunity to play at AFL level. Some of those players might miss out during draft time because of injury or form and decide to ply their trade under the eyes of the AFL's scouts.
The reasons they miss out is because they many-fold. The mid season draft gives them an opportunity if the need arises because of form or injury to key personnel. It could be the opportunity they need to get into the AFL and from there who knows.
Also, think about it, if I'm a kid who misses out on the draft, I have two options. Try SANFL or just go to Ammo's or country. This may actually entice them to stay in the State league.
I'm assuming the player has the opportunity to say 'no'?
If I were a coach in the SANFL you go in eyes wide open. You always try and promote your players to play at the highest level, so you shouldn't be against this, although they could way-lay your short term plans by losing key personnel on the way through.
With all due respect to your line of thought.
What about the integrity of the SANFL comp ????
Treat it as a play-pen for the AFL to it's peril.
SANFL supporters are scarce enough as it is, piss those remaining loyal supporters off enough and they'll give it away entirely.
So what then becomes of grass roots football.
by LMA » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:24 pm
gadj1976 wrote:LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
Dunno, would I, as a Sturt player who also is a carpenter (say), up and move to the Gold Coast for 3 months?? Not sure this will be a 'jump at all costs' that some feel it might. There would need to be some negotiation before someone even entertains the idea.
by dogbreath » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:24 pm
gadj1976 wrote:dogbreath wrote:gadj1976 wrote:I actually don't mind this idea. Some SANFL players play for the opportunity to play at AFL level. Some of those players might miss out during draft time because of injury or form and decide to ply their trade under the eyes of the AFL's scouts.
The reasons they miss out is because they many-fold. The mid season draft gives them an opportunity if the need arises because of form or injury to key personnel. It could be the opportunity they need to get into the AFL and from there who knows.
Also, think about it, if I'm a kid who misses out on the draft, I have two options. Try SANFL or just go to Ammo's or country. This may actually entice them to stay in the State league.
I'm assuming the player has the opportunity to say 'no'?
If I were a coach in the SANFL you go in eyes wide open. You always try and promote your players to play at the highest level, so you shouldn't be against this, although they could way-lay your short term plans by losing key personnel on the way through.
With all due respect to your line of thought.
What about the integrity of the SANFL comp ????
Treat it as a play-pen for the AFL to it's peril.
SANFL supporters are scarce enough as it is, piss those remaining loyal supporters off enough and they'll give it away entirely.
So what then becomes of grass roots football.
There's integrity??
That went years ago. It's 2018.
You're assuming the AFL has any regard about the SANFL. Let's face it, they see the state competitions, U18's and SANFL as feeder leagues anyway, so lets embrace it. The AFL reserves is a mere step away which will make the SANFL hardly a step above Ammo's.
BTW, this is not my preferred method, I do love the SANFL and I love Sturt more than life itself. However, I'm a realist. If this came in, I would like to see Sturt only recruiting over 25s who have no appeal at SANFL level!
by gadj1976 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:26 pm
LMA wrote:gadj1976 wrote:LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
Dunno, would I, as a Sturt player who also is a carpenter (say), up and move to the Gold Coast for 3 months?? Not sure this will be a 'jump at all costs' that some feel it might. There would need to be some negotiation before someone even entertains the idea.
Under 23 no doubt I reckon. Put in 6 or so good games and you're in a good position to be given a contract the following season
by wild dog » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:48 pm
gadj1976 wrote:..................................................................
There's integrity??
That went years ago. It's 2018.
You're assuming the AFL has any regard about the SANFL. Let's face it, they see the state competitions, U18's and SANFL as feeder leagues anyway, so lets embrace it. The AFL reserves is a mere step away which will make the SANFL hardly a step above Ammo's.
BTW, this is not my preferred method, I do love the SANFL and I love Sturt more than life itself. However, I'm a realist. If this came in, I would like to see Sturt only recruiting over 25s who have no appeal at SANFL level so we don't get affected.
by gadj1976 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:14 pm
wild dog wrote:gadj1976 wrote:..................................................................
There's integrity??
That went years ago. It's 2018.
You're assuming the AFL has any regard about the SANFL. Let's face it, they see the state competitions, U18's and SANFL as feeder leagues anyway, so lets embrace it. The AFL reserves is a mere step away which will make the SANFL hardly a step above Ammo's.
BTW, this is not my preferred method, I do love the SANFL and I love Sturt more than life itself. However, I'm a realist. If this came in, I would like to see Sturt only recruiting over 25s who have no appeal at SANFL level so we don't get affected.
I'm a realist. When the reserves were discussed I voiced my concern that one of our up and coming talents would hammer us in a do or die final as an adelaide based AFL recruit - well maybe I said grand final - but I want to embrace it. Wayne Milera who served us fantastically, was brilliant in the 2015 finals and got a well deserved call up to the AFL. For him and his family it was a great result, but to a local watching him the next year - together with Menzel - kick our arse was hard to take. Ramp that up 5 fold to taking them away mid season - and then play us in the finals. So when you say lets face it, the integrity went years ago, I don't think you have thought it through enough.
Edit reason: Ass corrected to Arse
by Pseudo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:56 am
LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
by LMA » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:41 am
Pseudo wrote:LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
Au contraire, the problem is amplified by the smears and clowns having reserves teams. It's one thing to lose a key player mid-year to the eastern league. It's another matter entirely when that same player suits up against your mob the next week in a clowns guernsey.
by mighty hounds » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am
LMA wrote:Pseudo wrote:LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
Au contraire, the problem is amplified by the smears and clowns having reserves teams. It's one thing to lose a key player mid-year to the eastern league. It's another matter entirely when that same player suits up against your mob the next week in a clowns guernsey.
Simple, they don't play against their former club. I think the big soccer leagues have something like that in play when they loan out players.
Mid season draft aside, even if that was implemented now as a regulation for Port & Adelaide eg Trengove against Sturt, do you think that would stop the whinge and bring so called supporters back? Of course not
by Pseudo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:04 am
LMA wrote:Pseudo wrote:LMA wrote:Far bigger concern than Port & Adelaide having reserves team. As loyal as you think a player might be if he gets a chance to play AFL he will jump at it
Au contraire, the problem is amplified by the smears and clowns having reserves teams. It's one thing to lose a key player mid-year to the eastern league. It's another matter entirely when that same player suits up against your mob the next week in a clowns guernsey.
Simple, they don't play against their former club. I think the big soccer leagues have something like that in play when they loan out players.
Mid season draft aside, even if that was implemented now as a regulation for Port & Adelaide eg Trengove against Sturt, do you think that would stop the whinge and bring so called supporters back? Of course not
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