Colingwood vs Adelaide

[sydney-dog]

I just watched the game again, my view, every game the umpiring is very inconsistent, this was no different last night and a good example of this is the Buckley in the back decision and the Gill not in the back decision.

It did not affect the result of the game however it weill continue to be an issue in the finals

[sydney-dog]

Couple of observations from last night

Bock, outstanding at CHB and has the capability to be an elite CHB
Forward Line, Welsh, Burton and Proplyzia were all reasonably quiet so their is definitely some room for improvement heading in to the finals
Defence, starting to look settle again, Bock, Johncock, Rutten, Macca, Massie and Torney are in good form individually and collectively
Midfield, couple of the young blokes Van Berlo, Knights and Radar down in output, next week is a huge opportunity to show the club that they are ready to take the club forward
Players under the Pump, Mattner and Griffen's were both non effective and will come under pressure, Maric, Douglas and Doughty may be considered if they play well this week, it may also depend on the opposition

[Booney]

Could you happily put Bock on a Reiwoldt,Brown or Hall?

[Psyber]

Could you happily put Bock on a Reiwoldt,Brown or Hall?

Given a bit more time to develop, yes. For now Rutten is the man for Brown and Hall.

[sydney-dog]

Booney

Hall does not play CHF, and given Hall and Bock's current form I would be more than happy with a Bock Match up

In regards to St Nick, good player, however in my view he is not YET a superstar, reason, he has not preformed consistently at a high level in big games

Brown, I definitely believe Bock has the Body strength and agility to match up against Brown, once again Brown is playing more out of FF than CHF

Bock and Rutten can hold down the key defensive positions for many years to come, Bock's last month at CHB has been been absolute quality

[Hondo]

Slot Hentschell back into the forward line and we are good to go in 2008!

Maybe ....

No coincidence that the Crows recent better form has come when we have our best team on the park - all bar Bassett I think?

[hearts on fire]

Basset will be 2 more weeks, so he wont play again this year...

[FlyingHigh]

That Deliberate was an absolute disgrace. That decision, plus the deliberate rule in general, is just another typical example of:
1) The rules being written without any feel for the game, but dictated to from higher powers within the AFL. A joke, like about 5 other changes they've made over the last few years which haven't helped the game at all.
2) An umpire wanting to be the star attraction and have his head on the box at a vital moment of the game.

That rule is an absolute joke anyway. There is no advantage to taking the ball out of play if you're in front because the clock stops. If you're behind like Collingwood were, you'd try to keep the ball in play.

As Wedgie said a couple of pages ago, anyone who thought it was deliberate has never played the game.
Thank Christ it's still interpreted with a feel for the game in the SANFL.

[Hondo]

That rule is an absolute joke anyway. There is no advantage to taking the ball out of play if you're in front because the clock stops. If you're behind like Collingwood were, you'd try to keep the ball in play.

It depends on the situation at the time of the contest - no point keeping the ball in play if it's 3 on to 1 (and you are on the team with 1).

Players often prefer the ball to be out so their team-mates can catch up to the contest - regardless of who's in front.

In Wakelin's case it was not in his interests to try to keep the ball in play IMO ... that's why he did it. If he wanted to keep the ball in play he could have dribbled it in another direction. Why didn't he? Because he didn't want the ball loose in our forward line.

[CUTTERMAN]

That rule is an absolute joke anyway. There is no advantage to taking the ball out of play if you're in front because the clock stops. If you're behind like Collingwood were, you'd try to keep the ball in play.

It depends on the situation at the time of the contest - no point keeping the ball in play if it's 3 on to 1 (and you are on the team with 1).

Players often prefer the ball to be out so their team-mates can catch up to the contest - regardless of who's in front.

In Wakelin's case it was not in his interests to try to keep the ball in play IMO ... that's why he did it. If he wanted to keep the ball in play he could have dribbled it in another direction. Why didn't he? Because he didn't want the ball loose in our forward line.

Why didn't he keep it in? Maybe a tired older man against a younger man running hot with more agility and speed and no one there to help him.

[FlyingHigh]

You make a good point Hondo about the players situation. But worth a free kick? Still believe it was anti-footy

[sydney-dog]

The Deliberate rule has changed over the past couple of seasons

I had no issue with the Waklein decision, he sole intension was to soccer the ball over the line, I don't see what the issue is

I have seen worse paid this year, where players have kicked the ball 50m up the line and the ball had dribbled over the line and the umps have paid Deliberate

Once again in the Wakelin decision, his sole intension was to soccer the ball over the line, he should of made it look less obvious

The general footy supporter neeeds to realise that the rule is alot tighter now, this is good for the game as we are seeing less stoppages

Now to fix the rushed behind issue

[sydney-dog]

Hondo 71

On Hentchel, he will need at least 12 months of footy before we will see the best of him, next year he wwont be the forward line savour....

The kids injury was a shocker, he required two major knee operations, just his ability to get back and play is a huge effort

I would say to all Crows fans, Trent will contribute next year, however 2009 is a more realistic target where we start seeing a confident Trent Hentchel

[CUTTERMAN]

Hondo 71

On Hentchel, he will need at least 12 months of footy before we will see the best of him, next year he wwont be the forward line savour....

The kids injury was a shocker, he required two major knee operations, just his ability to get back and play is a huge effort

I would say to all Crows fans, Trent will contribute next year, however 2009 is a more realistic target where we start seeing a confident Trent Hentchel

I agree with you SD and I thought if Roo felt he could go on for another year it would've been a good idea until Trent was back and firing which you'd think will take most of the season, although Hudson has hit the ground running albeit different injury.

[Hondo]

Sydney Dog, agree on Hentschell. I was a bit tongue-in-cheek to the knockers predicting dark times ahead for the 'old' Crows when some of our key position players in Bock, Rutten and Hentschell are all approx age 25 or under.

[am Bays]

IMO opinion listening to the radio while driving over to house hunt/watch a qtr of Bays v Sturt

Ist half we got the rub of the green from the umpires by and large, 2nd half it went with Collingwood with the exception of that interpretation of deliberate out of bounds.

All good, play on better team won...