by Booney » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:24 am
by Lightning McQueen » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:30 am
by valleys07 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:02 pm
by MW » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:18 pm
valleys07 wrote:Bloody annoyed that I missed the discussion tonight on AA re Port.
I was busy blinking.
by goddy11 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:04 am
Booney wrote:Bit of a ( Kenny Calendar voice ) lack luster affair at the MCG on Saturday in front of a disappointing crowd of just over 26,000.
The Blues fans are being asked to be patient with their rebuild, they're not. Well, if they are they're being patient somewhere else and for much of the game it looked like the Port Adelaide boys wanted to be somewhere else, too. If that wasn't a side going through the motions for the 4 points I don't know what is and I for one didn't like it. I liked the 4 points, but I wasn't thrilled with the display.
Again the back half held sway by holding our zone high and not allowing the opposition F50 entries. Only allowed 38 for the day despite the Blues having 380 disposals, as much a reflection on their inept forward structure as it was our dour defence.
The Blue were always going to come out fired up for Simpsons 300th, they haven't got much else to play for in reality and they jumped us early with 5 straight to 3.6 and while we were well on top in general play it was Curnow with 3 in the first quarter and Port's inaccuracy in front of goal that had them in front at 1/4 time. More convincing 5 goal to 2 second quarter and the game is in Port's hands and looked like a matter of how far from here. Not so.
That attitude I mentioned above festered at half time and the bottom placed Blues kept us scoreless in the third quarter and breathed a bit of life into the contest, ultimately only some light entertainment for the Blues who went along and more of a blight on Port's attitude than Carlton's abilities. Simply not good enough for 30 minutes after the main break and I hope the review this morning focuses on that period and it's made clear that's not acceptable.
A 5 goal last term with some Wingard magic thrown in for good measure and some scoreboard reward for Dixon who had an "almost day". Dixon could have had 4 or 5, a snap from the boundary touched on the line by Jones (who despite losing the one-on-one with Gray was good for Carlton), a snap from the top of the square bouncing the wrong way, a missed set shot and one going through truly. Kept competing and giving us a target which was required as Marshall looked lost out on the G and with just 5 touches his spot might be under some pressure.
Again the win was on the back of the dominance of our deep midfield led by Wingard, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper and a defence led by Houston ( who has been much better the last two weeks ) and Hombsch while evergreen Westhoff had another quality outing this season and is playing the best footy of his career. Depth the key in the midfield group for Port, Wines, Ebert, Boak and Polec relatively quiet.
Special mention to Jack Trengove, he was solid across half back in his first PAFC AFL match, was pleased to see him get a chance and take it with both hands. He was solid with 21 touches at 81% D/E and looks like he might stay in if the Pittard corky/hamstring keeps him out. Given his recent history, I think it will.
All in all a fairly ordinary affair with the bottom placed side dragging us down a peg or two and our attitude not being ruthless enough on the day meaning all we take out of that contest was a trip to the G and the 4 points.
Boons best - Wingard, Westhoff, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper, Trengove, Hombsch
Back home for the bubbly Saints who won their second on the trot on the weekend. Twilight *hiccup* Saturday.
Having watched most of the Magpies game yesterday I'm not sure DBJ earns an instant recall and I think Watts perhaps has done enough to earn another game at AFL level after 2 pretty solid outings against Sturt and Norwood given Marshall's quiet fortnight.
In - Jonas, Watts ( DBJ maybe )
Out - Pittard, Marshall ( Trengove in a hard call maybe )
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:36 am
goddy11 wrote:Booney wrote:Bit of a ( Kenny Calendar voice ) lack luster affair at the MCG on Saturday in front of a disappointing crowd of just over 26,000.
The Blues fans are being asked to be patient with their rebuild, they're not. Well, if they are they're being patient somewhere else and for much of the game it looked like the Port Adelaide boys wanted to be somewhere else, too. If that wasn't a side going through the motions for the 4 points I don't know what is and I for one didn't like it. I liked the 4 points, but I wasn't thrilled with the display.
Again the back half held sway by holding our zone high and not allowing the opposition F50 entries. Only allowed 38 for the day despite the Blues having 380 disposals, as much a reflection on their inept forward structure as it was our dour defence.
The Blue were always going to come out fired up for Simpsons 300th, they haven't got much else to play for in reality and they jumped us early with 5 straight to 3.6 and while we were well on top in general play it was Curnow with 3 in the first quarter and Port's inaccuracy in front of goal that had them in front at 1/4 time. More convincing 5 goal to 2 second quarter and the game is in Port's hands and looked like a matter of how far from here. Not so.
That attitude I mentioned above festered at half time and the bottom placed Blues kept us scoreless in the third quarter and breathed a bit of life into the contest, ultimately only some light entertainment for the Blues who went along and more of a blight on Port's attitude than Carlton's abilities. Simply not good enough for 30 minutes after the main break and I hope the review this morning focuses on that period and it's made clear that's not acceptable.
A 5 goal last term with some Wingard magic thrown in for good measure and some scoreboard reward for Dixon who had an "almost day". Dixon could have had 4 or 5, a snap from the boundary touched on the line by Jones (who despite losing the one-on-one with Gray was good for Carlton), a snap from the top of the square bouncing the wrong way, a missed set shot and one going through truly. Kept competing and giving us a target which was required as Marshall looked lost out on the G and with just 5 touches his spot might be under some pressure.
Again the win was on the back of the dominance of our deep midfield led by Wingard, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper and a defence led by Houston ( who has been much better the last two weeks ) and Hombsch while evergreen Westhoff had another quality outing this season and is playing the best footy of his career. Depth the key in the midfield group for Port, Wines, Ebert, Boak and Polec relatively quiet.
Special mention to Jack Trengove, he was solid across half back in his first PAFC AFL match, was pleased to see him get a chance and take it with both hands. He was solid with 21 touches at 81% D/E and looks like he might stay in if the Pittard corky/hamstring keeps him out. Given his recent history, I think it will.
All in all a fairly ordinary affair with the bottom placed side dragging us down a peg or two and our attitude not being ruthless enough on the day meaning all we take out of that contest was a trip to the G and the 4 points.
Boons best - Wingard, Westhoff, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper, Trengove, Hombsch
Back home for the bubbly Saints who won their second on the trot on the weekend. Twilight *hiccup* Saturday.
Having watched most of the Magpies game yesterday I'm not sure DBJ earns an instant recall and I think Watts perhaps has done enough to earn another game at AFL level after 2 pretty solid outings against Sturt and Norwood given Marshall's quiet fortnight.
In - Jonas, Watts ( DBJ maybe )
Out - Pittard, Marshall ( Trengove in a hard call maybe )
Should Dixon's form come into discussion
Dixon 13 goals 18 behinds from 14 matches and 57 marks. Gives away a lot of frees
His ruck work is ordinary.
Jack Watts was dropped and has similar stats. 13 goals from 11 matches and 45 marks.
Just asking.
by MW » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:41 am
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:51 am
MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
by Booney » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:57 am
by MW » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:01 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
You're not referring to Jenkins are you?
by Booney » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:13 am
MW wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
You're not referring to Jenkins are you?
I am
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:15 am
MW wrote:I might be
by valleys07 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:14 am
goddy11 wrote:Should Dixon's form come into discussion
Dixon 13 goals 18 behinds from 14 matches and 57 marks. Gives away a lot of frees
His ruck work is ordinary.
Jack Watts was dropped and has similar stats. 13 goals from 11 matches and 45 marks.
Just asking.
MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
by goddy11 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:54 am
valleys07 wrote:goddy11 wrote:Should Dixon's form come into discussion
Dixon 13 goals 18 behinds from 14 matches and 57 marks. Gives away a lot of frees
His ruck work is ordinary.
Jack Watts was dropped and has similar stats. 13 goals from 11 matches and 45 marks.
Just asking.
His discipline is an issue for mine. There is a fine line between imposing a physical presence and giving away dumb frees, and he crosses that line far too often for mine.
Of course Port fans would love him to translate those "nearly" performances (that Boon spoke of) into complete games, by clunking these grabs and converting set shots.
Can't read too much into his numbers as a 2nd ruck.MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
Quit the faux toughness and focus on contesting packs, clunking grabs and kicking goals (all of which he did in the 2nd half of last weekend) and he will silence the critics pretty quickly. I am far from a Tex fan, but his 2nd half on Saturday was magnificent. Exactly what you expect of your CHF.
by Dirty dog » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:47 pm
goddy11 wrote:Booney wrote:Bit of a ( Kenny Calendar voice ) lack luster affair at the MCG on Saturday in front of a disappointing crowd of just over 26,000.
The Blues fans are being asked to be patient with their rebuild, they're not. Well, if they are they're being patient somewhere else and for much of the game it looked like the Port Adelaide boys wanted to be somewhere else, too. If that wasn't a side going through the motions for the 4 points I don't know what is and I for one didn't like it. I liked the 4 points, but I wasn't thrilled with the display.
Again the back half held sway by holding our zone high and not allowing the opposition F50 entries. Only allowed 38 for the day despite the Blues having 380 disposals, as much a reflection on their inept forward structure as it was our dour defence.
The Blue were always going to come out fired up for Simpsons 300th, they haven't got much else to play for in reality and they jumped us early with 5 straight to 3.6 and while we were well on top in general play it was Curnow with 3 in the first quarter and Port's inaccuracy in front of goal that had them in front at 1/4 time. More convincing 5 goal to 2 second quarter and the game is in Port's hands and looked like a matter of how far from here. Not so.
That attitude I mentioned above festered at half time and the bottom placed Blues kept us scoreless in the third quarter and breathed a bit of life into the contest, ultimately only some light entertainment for the Blues who went along and more of a blight on Port's attitude than Carlton's abilities. Simply not good enough for 30 minutes after the main break and I hope the review this morning focuses on that period and it's made clear that's not acceptable.
A 5 goal last term with some Wingard magic thrown in for good measure and some scoreboard reward for Dixon who had an "almost day". Dixon could have had 4 or 5, a snap from the boundary touched on the line by Jones (who despite losing the one-on-one with Gray was good for Carlton), a snap from the top of the square bouncing the wrong way, a missed set shot and one going through truly. Kept competing and giving us a target which was required as Marshall looked lost out on the G and with just 5 touches his spot might be under some pressure.
Again the win was on the back of the dominance of our deep midfield led by Wingard, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper and a defence led by Houston ( who has been much better the last two weeks ) and Hombsch while evergreen Westhoff had another quality outing this season and is playing the best footy of his career. Depth the key in the midfield group for Port, Wines, Ebert, Boak and Polec relatively quiet.
Special mention to Jack Trengove, he was solid across half back in his first PAFC AFL match, was pleased to see him get a chance and take it with both hands. He was solid with 21 touches at 81% D/E and looks like he might stay in if the Pittard corky/hamstring keeps him out. Given his recent history, I think it will.
All in all a fairly ordinary affair with the bottom placed side dragging us down a peg or two and our attitude not being ruthless enough on the day meaning all we take out of that contest was a trip to the G and the 4 points.
Boons best - Wingard, Westhoff, Rockliff, Powell-Pepper, Trengove, Hombsch
Back home for the bubbly Saints who won their second on the trot on the weekend. Twilight *hiccup* Saturday.
Having watched most of the Magpies game yesterday I'm not sure DBJ earns an instant recall and I think Watts perhaps has done enough to earn another game at AFL level after 2 pretty solid outings against Sturt and Norwood given Marshall's quiet fortnight.
In - Jonas, Watts ( DBJ maybe )
Out - Pittard, Marshall ( Trengove in a hard call maybe )
Should Dixon's form come into discussion
Dixon 13 goals 18 behinds from 14 matches and 57 marks. Gives away a lot of frees
His ruck work is ordinary.
Jack Watts was dropped and has similar stats. 13 goals from 11 matches and 45 marks.
Just asking.
by Ruben Carter » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:45 pm
by goddy11 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:16 pm
Ruben Carter wrote:As a Port fan, I don't remember us having a more intimidating and dangerous key forward since Tredrea. He creates goals with his presence, often having 2-3 defenders in marking contests against him. Wouldn't bother me at all if he only kicked 1 or 2 goals every week. He's great!
by amber_fluid » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:43 pm
goddy11 wrote:Ruben Carter wrote:As a Port fan, I don't remember us having a more intimidating and dangerous key forward since Tredrea. He creates goals with his presence, often having 2-3 defenders in marking contests against him. Wouldn't bother me at all if he only kicked 1 or 2 goals every week. He's great!
Really, comparing him to
Tredrea. 255 games 549 goals Dixon 107 games 173 goals.
Tredraea was a club champ.
by daysofourlives » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:50 pm
amber_fluid wrote:goddy11 wrote:Ruben Carter wrote:As a Port fan, I don't remember us having a more intimidating and dangerous key forward since Tredrea. He creates goals with his presence, often having 2-3 defenders in marking contests against him. Wouldn't bother me at all if he only kicked 1 or 2 goals every week. He's great!
Really, comparing him to
Tredrea. 255 games 549 goals Dixon 107 games 173 goals.
Tredraea was a club champ.
Cummings record would still be better than Dixon’s and he only played 2 seasons at Port.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:53 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:MW wrote:If only other key forwards in the league were judged similarly
You're not referring to Jenkins are you?
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