by BoundaryRider84 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:06 pm
by PatowalongaPirate » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:06 pm
RustyCage wrote:BoundaryRider84 wrote:Call me stupid, but who is makes up the leadership group apart from Smith and Warner?
Starc and Hazelwood
by am Bays » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:17 pm
BoundaryRider84 wrote:Right so 2 bowlers need to take the responsibility as well.....Sayers in, Lyon to Captain?
by tigerpie » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:24 pm
by Magellan » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:33 pm
PatowalongaPirate wrote:Magellan wrote:RustyCage wrote:Agreed, he isn’t young, but his spot in the team is the most fragile. When the leadership group and coach tell you to do something, you’d feel obliged
Indeed. Easy to say he should've told the leadership group he didn't want to be involved, but that's not the culture of Australian sporting teams - you do what the captain tell you to do (viz. the underarm incident), particularly when your position in the team is vulnerable.
This is what makes the tactic such a weak and cowardly act - Smith should've done it himself if he thought it was such as great idea, rather than pick on the weakest link.
Spot on my Explorer friend. Instructing your player to cheat is abhorrent and he has carefully picked his target here. He knew Bancroft would fall into line if it gave him a firmer grip on a Test spot.
by DoublebluTiger » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:08 pm
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by amber_fluid » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:52 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Just read Brett Geeves article...a little surprised at his wet lettuce leaf approach considering he went harder at Boof over something thats isnt even in the same ball park as this
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:54 pm
by amber_fluid » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:03 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1920119141333216&id=121538134524668
by Booney » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:06 pm
by locky801 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:41 pm
by Grenville » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:53 pm
Booney wrote:It's interesting what's happened over the last few year's on this forum, the dislike for the characters in the Australian test team has reached an all time high. Most of us think there's some real wankers in there. Not a new thing but it's hard to find many people who like Smith or Warner in here.
Not long ago these blokes threatened to boycott the Ashes if they didn't get a pay rise.
Then little Davey hears some nasty things said about his Mrs and wants to settle it out in the car park
Now the captain oversees blatant cheating.
I've read some pretty serious comments regarding the punishment of this Test team and I can't say I feel any of them are an over reaction. If the leaders knew about it or sanctioned it I'd be happy to never see them play for the country again.
by MW » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:55 pm
by PatowalongaPirate » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:06 pm
MW wrote:Interestingly the common suspension for ball tampering has been 1-2 games.
Does Bancroft get given the same type of sentence?
Does Smith get sacked by CA even if he is not charged by the ICC?
by MW » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:09 pm
by Grenville » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:10 pm
by PatowalongaPirate » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:13 pm
MW wrote:I think its the right way to go
I hear Starc and Hazelwood are in the leadership group also...i hope it wasnt their idea...
by PatowalongaPirate » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:14 pm
Grenville wrote:If players do get suspended and Sayers or anyone else ends up making their debut next Test what a letdown it will be. You bust a gut to earn a spot in the Test team and you are picked largely because some filth has besmirched the game and has been banned. It would be a horrible environment to debut in.
by amber_fluid » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:14 pm
PatowalongaPirate wrote:MW wrote:Interestingly the common suspension for ball tampering has been 1-2 games.
Does Bancroft get given the same type of sentence?
Does Smith get sacked by CA even if he is not charged by the ICC?
Yes. Weight of public opinion, past players including captains, respected media performers ie Robert Craddock and Peter Lalor, will all go towards the unravelling of our leadership group.
Even though other countries have been found guilty of ball tampering - Faf has been done twice and is still Captain - this will not be tolerated in Australia. Smith will lose the captaincy but continue playing. Similarly Warner will not have any leadership role but will continue to play.
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