johntheclaret wrote:morell wrote:johntheclaret wrote:Region.............................................................Governing body........................................Major competition(s)
Australian Capital Territory.........................AFL NSW/ACT.............................................North East Australian Football League / AFL Canberra
New South Wales New South Wales..........AFL/NSW/ACT............................................ North East Australian Football League / Sydney AFL
Northern Territory Northern Territory......AFL Northern Territory..........................…Northern Territory Football League
Queensland Queensland............................AFL Queensland........................................Queensland Australian Football League
South Australia South Australia.................South Australian Football Commission..South Australian National Football League
Tasmania Tasmania.....................................AFL Tasmania............................................Tasmanian Football League
Victoria (Australia) Victoria..........................AFL Victoria................................................Victorian Football League
Western Australia Western Australia........West Australian Football Commission....West Australian Football League
What do you notice about the last column? Do you see AFL as the major competition anywhere? What does that tell you?
The SANFL are the governing body for the state based competitions and affiliated leagues. Not for *all* football and especially not for the *national* competition. The AFL are not an affiliated league, Port and the Crows are not owned by the SANFL anymore. The SANFL have no say about what happens at AFL level other than perhaps being part of the SMA and having input on scheduling at the venue.
They're stakeholders and obviously have logical ties, but if you for one second think the AFL need to get the SANFL's approval to run an AFL Reserves comp you're utterly deluded.
It's like 1990 happened and everyone ITT just kind of forgot. Unbelievable.
I don’t know what you think I’m “utterly deluded” about. Show me where I’ve suggested that the AFL need to get sanfl approval to run a Reserves competition. They are the governing body in 6 of the states, Sure they can run a Reserves Competition.
As for SA, the AFL was represented by the two clubs who operated under license to the SANFL. Note, “under license”. If the SANFL ( See SAFC) isn’t the governing body in SA why did the AFL clubs have to operate under license, why didn’t the AFL just franchise 2 expansion teams like they did in Queensland or NSW. It’s simple, they could franchise expansion teams in those states because they are the governing body in those states. They had accept two teams under license to the SANFL in SA because they aren’t the governing body in SA.
The fact that the SANFL have subsequently sold those licenses to the clubs / AFL is irrelevant to governance. So throwing it straight back at you, if you think that during the course of those license transfers there wasn’t a detailed agreement between the SANFL and the AFL on all foreseeable aspects of the clubs operating in SA, then I think it isn’t me that is “utterly deluded”.
Incidentally, I’m not suggesting those contractural agreements are to the benefit of the SANFL (SAFC). They haven’t proven to be very good negotiators, as the admittance of the Reserves into the SANFL has proven.
Staggered.
This was all accurate in 1985.
Since then, we've had a national competition established. Then we had two teams enter said comp, licensed to the SANFL.
Those licenses have since been sold. Their agreements with the SAFC annulled. They are now answerable to the AFL commission.
The SAFC signed a heads of agreement document, with the AFL, that will see the licenses and
all associated conditions transferred to the two clubs.
http://sanfl.com.au/news/2014/03/27/sa- ... -licences/The SANFL control what happens in the SANFL, their affiliated leagues and at the venues they own or have a managing interest in.
Outside of that, they can call themselves the "governing body" all they like,but they have zero ability to control anything at AFL level, other than as a consulted stakeholder.
If the AFL want to play a reserves comp in SA, they'll damn well do it.