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Re: ATCA

Postby Reilly » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:00 pm

Trader wrote:
Reilly wrote:we were aware they were a new addition to your club as some of the boys had played against some of the players in question when they played for ICC. ... Really it was only 4 - 6 of their guys that were the issue.


And this is what makes it so hard for the turf to deal with these matters.
If you kick a club out or severely penalize them, the players just move to a new club the next year.

We've seen it previously and I suspect we will see it again.


The association were very thorough and made sure both sides could have their say before making a decision. Unfortunately the main instigators were not the ones that were punished. I really hope we don't see something like this again. It wasn't a pleasant experience at all. The only way I think you stamp this out completely is to have at least one umpire at all of their games and force them to wear the cost.
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:12 pm

If its proven beyond doubt, kick the offenders out of your club.
They'll need a clearance to play elsewhere so when lodged tell the destination club why you flicked them.
Some of these lo guys really think its test cricket and we know where most of the trouble lies.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Computer Crashed » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:21 pm

Trader wrote:
Reilly wrote:we were aware they were a new addition to your club as some of the boys had played against some of the players in question when they played for ICC. ... Really it was only 4 - 6 of their guys that were the issue.


And this is what makes it so hard for the turf to deal with these matters.
If you kick a club out or severely penalize them, the players just move to a new club the next year.

We've seen it previously and I suspect we will see it again.

Same happens at footy clubs, two or three peanuts **** it up for everyone.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:39 pm

The clubs are enablers.

They know who the peanuts are who can't be trusted. They pick them anyway because they're desperate for numbers or worried they'll lose peanut's mates too or they're good at footy/cricket. Turn a blind eye.

The clubs should take a large slice of the blame.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Computer Crashed » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:20 pm

Tony Clifton wrote:The clubs are enablers.

They know who the peanuts are who can't be trusted. They pick them anyway because they're desperate for numbers or worried they'll lose peanut's mates too or they're good at footy/cricket. Turn a blind eye.

The clubs should take a large slice of the blame.

Oh yeh.
Unless that's 100% accurate then you are wrong, sorry.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Computer Crashed wrote:
Tony Clifton wrote:The clubs are enablers.

They know who the peanuts are who can't be trusted. They pick them anyway because they're desperate for numbers or worried they'll lose peanut's mates too or they're good at footy/cricket. Turn a blind eye.

The clubs should take a large slice of the blame.

Oh yeh.
Unless that's 100% accurate then you are wrong, sorry.

Clubs are never surprised.

If an issue popped up anywhere at a club I bet 99% of the people within that club would instantly be able to accurately say, "Oh, I bet that was Person X" before they'd even had any details confirmed.

Even in the recent example in this thread this happened.
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:25 pm

Very rarely do incidents like this happen out of the blue.
Any incident from any of our players that requires disciplinary action is dealt with at committee level immediately.
If the player repeat offends then he's out the door. Club policy.
Thankfully that's never happened in the 25 years I've been involved.
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Re: ATCA

Postby The Hound » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:08 am

tigerpie wrote:Very rarely do incidents like this happen out of the blue.
Any incident from any of our players that requires disciplinary action is dealt with at committee level immediately.
If the player repeat offends then he's out the door. Club policy.
Thankfully that's never happened in the 25 years I've been involved.


A couple may have gone close TP ;)
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Re: ATCA

Postby tigerpie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:41 am

The Hound wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Very rarely do incidents like this happen out of the blue.
Any incident from any of our players that requires disciplinary action is dealt with at committee level immediately.
If the player repeat offends then he's out the door. Club policy.
Thankfully that's never happened in the 25 years I've been involved.


A couple may have gone close TP ;)

One in particular lol. That was off field though.
We did have to flick a junior coach and parent once.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Senor Moto Gadili » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Fulham post 535 :shock:
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Re: ATCA

Postby Tony Clifton » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:13 am

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Fulham post 535 :shock:

Yikes

Pembroke surely heading down again
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Re: ATCA

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:03 am

FrankW wrote:Thought I'd do a rundown for Champion player stats for the first 2 games in A1, 2 and 3 because I'm a nutter for stats

A1
S Harvey from Port leads with 133 runs (93 v Goodwood), 12 wickets including two 5fa's, might not be such a long year if he keeps going.
T Wordsworth from Para Hills with 67 runs, 15 wickets (2 second innings 5fa's) really didn't expect his points to be coming from wickets.
M Barber from Payneham with 36 runs, 10 wickets (6fa v Para Hills)
A Wilkins from Hope Valley with 171 runs (119 v ROC), 3 wickets
E Oates from Hope Valley with 126 runs (100 v ROC) looks like him and Wilkins cashed in, 5 wickets (although 4/61off 6 v Walkerville apparently)
And the early prediction by someone of S Marks, he's not far behind in 6th. Batting consistently but been unlucky with just 6 scalps

A2
J Winnard from Pembroke with 95 runs from 4 innings in 2 games, 10 wickets (6fa v Flinders Park), don't know him at all but would be way ahead with more runs
J Rosenthal from Woody Rech with 160 runs (99 and 61), 4 wickets and 2 catches. Early form with the bat putting Rech in good stead
Z Treloar from Unley with 11/106 off 45, incl. 5fa vs Scotch. Economical 2nd change reaping rewards.
B Campbell from Brighton with 209 runs (149 vs Woody Rech), few points throwin in from keeper dismissals
L Adcock from Fulham with 204 runs (116 v Pooraka in a loss and 87 v Woody Rech in a loss), being let down a little bit but hopefully he keeps making scores
And the early prediction of J Indraratne in 20th, started well but had a quiet one vs Heccies

A3
Z Rehman from Concordia with 56 runs, 12 wickets incl. 3x4fa's (2 vs Reynella), consistent wicket taking will go a long way
N Walters from Old Iggies with 12 wickets (5fa vs Trinity), strike bowler doing well early on by the looks
J Furnell from Trinity with 11 wickets (2x4fa's), decent deceptive left arm offie should be right up there in the bowling
M Keen from Goodwood with 11 wickets (5fa vs SHOC), whats with all the bowlers up there in A3, nobody making runs yet?
S Potts from SHOC with 229 runs (183* v Goodwood), ah so at least someone has made a few in A3
And the early prediction of M Dearing in 20th, although with a 44 and a 3fa has started reasonably well

If it's too much to read or you'd rather I didn't post it at all just say so otherwise I'll do it every couple of rounds


so half way mark, whats the call on what has been seen in A1 A2 and A3.
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Re: ATCA

Postby FrankW » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:34 pm

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:
FrankW wrote:Thought I'd do a rundown for Champion player stats for the first 2 games in A1, 2 and 3 because I'm a nutter for stats

A1
S Harvey from Port etc etc

A2
J Winnard from Pembroke etc etc

A3
Z Rehman from Concordia etc etc

If it's too much to read or you'd rather I didn't post it at all just say so otherwise I'll do it every couple of rounds


so half way mark, whats the call on what has been seen in A1 A2 and A3.


Well just when i thought everybody ignored my time wasting looking up everyones stats!
Ill post an update this week if you like
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Re: ATCA

Postby FrankW » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:54 pm

Just over halfway to the finals and here's how the top 3 grades are standing

A1
T Wordsworth (Para Hills) leads Champion Player points by a country mile with 293 runs @41.9 including a ton v Reynella, and 29 wkts with 4x5fa's
S Harvey (Port Dist) falls from top spot but still tracking very well with 170 runs and 20 wkts including 7fa vs Para Hills and 2x5fa's
A Wilkins (Hope Valley) still piling on the runs with 374@74.8, 2 tons and 2x50s with only the one failure, and 9 wkts
M Hehner (Reynella) in form as of late with 241 runs@48.2, 2x50s and 13 wkts, but going for a few to get them
J Barnes (Grange) rounds out the top 5 with 232 runs@46.4, 3x50s with a 98 v Hope Valley, and 13 wkts

Pooraka have 4 players in the top 20, followed by Port Dist, Walkerville and Payneham with 3 each.

A Perilli (Walkerville) and J Bailey (Pooraka) lead the runs with 430 and 429 respectively.
T Wordsworth leads the wickets with 29 (not a typo), with S Harvey next in line with 20.

Pooraka, Walkerville, Para Hills and SPOC make up the 4, with Hope Valley and Prince Alfred just outside and the rest jostling for position. Goodwood need some points after New Years or they could slip from A1 for the first time that I can ever remember
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A2
J Rosenthal (Wood Rech) is way ahead in A2 with 394 runs@131.33! (few N.O's but no tons yet), 4x50s, 18 wkts including 5fa vs Pembroke
W Stanborough (Marion) emerges once again with 165 runs@41.25, just the one score over 50, 20 wkts including 2x6fa's v the bottom sides
J Winnard (Pembroke) carrying his team at the moment with 149 runs, 2x50s, 18 wkts, 2x6fas
M Sandery (Ingle Farm) very high up considering hes barely batted, has 24 wkts@10, just the one haul of 6fa v Marion
The next 3 are very close together, T Kennewell (Flinders Park) helping his team climb the ladder with 18 wkts, D Maunder (Brighton) with 363 runs@51.86, and P Duffett (Wood Rech) with 280 runs@56 and 7 wkts

Wood Rech have 4 players in the top 20, followed by Old Scotch with 3.

J Rosenthal leads the runs with 394, closely followed up by D Scholz (Old Scotch), J Jarrett (Pooraka) and D Maunder who have all cracked 350+ before christmas.
M Sandery leads the wickets with 24, followed by W Stanborough with 20.

Ingle Farm, Wood Rech and Old Scotch make up the top 3 with Unley and Flinders Park fighting for 4th. Fulham, Hectorville and Pembroke are fighting to stay afloat.
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A3
J Furnell (Trinity) tops Champion Player but with competition, he has 66 runs, 24 wkts@12.5, 2x4fa's
Z Rehman (Concordia) is close by with 72 runs, 21 wkts, 3x4fa's
J Southwell (Trinity) making a good partnership with Furnell with 21 wkts, 2x5fa's
B Whitehead (Golden Grove) is the highest batter with 257 runs@42.83, 112 v Concordia, 2x50s, 10 wkts including 5fa v Pulteney
Then it gets very close with J Douventzidis (Pulteney) with 119 runs and 16 wkts, A Ellis (Reynella) with 116 runs and 16 wkts, and L Partridge (Gepps Cross) with 435 runs including a 150 v Modbury and another ton.

Gepps Cross have a spread of contributors with 5 players in the top 20, followed by Sacred Heart and Old Iggies with 3 each.

L Partridge has the batting trophy to lose with 435 runs, 167 ahead of A Hyland (Sacred Heart).
J Furnell has the most wickets with 24, 3 ahead of Z Rehman and J Southwell.

Old Iggies and Gepps Cross are the top 2, with Trinity, Golden Grove and Concordia battling for 3rd and 4th. Sacred Heart and Walkerville aren't too far off and could do with knocking off someone above them in the new year. Pulteney and Goodwood need to turn it around before they find themselves in B1.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Sonofbrowny25 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:40 pm

i think looking at this A1 medal would be tough to take off Travis from here on in. you would think he will be getting votes after christmas
A2 again looks like Rosenthal is going to be a tough beat from here with runs and wickets also.
A3 well the mover is southwell. best bowler in the comp but a huge streak IMO he moves it both ways and takes wickets consistantly.

Pooraka still will win again!
Ingle farm has surprised but i think they might stagger. i still like scotch.
so far gepps and iggies have been up and about but im still not convinced on them. after christmas should be interesting here for the top 4
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Re: ATCA

Postby heater31 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:59 pm

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:A3 well the mover is southwell. best bowler in the comp but a huge streak IMO he moves it both ways and takes wickets consistantly.


Umpires might want to pay attention to the front foot of this bloke......reckon at least 4 of his wickets from the last game were Tom Curran's [emoji6]
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Re: ATCA

Postby RainmanZ » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:02 pm

Highest Innings Totals (500 plus)

7/602 AHOS v SPOC 2004-05
8/580 Woodville South v Walkerville 2008-09
8/563 SPOC v Walkerville 2015-16
553 Old Scotch v Penfield 1999-00
[b]535 Fulham v Pembroke 2017-18[/b]
5/520 SHOC v Kilburn 2001-02
9/519 Hectorville v CBCOC 2004-05
7/518 Richmond Clarence Pk v Payneham 2003-04
6/517 Hope Valley v Pooraka 2012-13
4/513 Ingle Farm v Walkerville 2008-09
8/513 Pooraka v Concordia 2012-13
7/506 Kilburn v Pt Districts 2012-13
6/503 Old Scotch v Pooraka 2012-13
501 Goodwood v Old Scotch 2006-07
9/500 Woodville South v Para Hills 2008-09
9/500 Clarence Park v Kilburn 1972-73 (semi-final)
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Re: ATCA

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:35 pm

heater31 wrote:
Sonofbrowny25 wrote:A3 well the mover is southwell. best bowler in the comp but a huge streak IMO he moves it both ways and takes wickets consistantly.


Umpires might want to pay attention to the front foot of this bloke......reckon at least 4 of his wickets from the last game were Tom Curran's [emoji6]


At least four! That's unheard of. Must have bowled a heck of a lot more then.
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Re: ATCA

Postby Computer Crashed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:59 am

Sonofbrowny25 wrote:i think looking at this A1 medal would be tough to take off Travis from here on in. you would think he will be getting votes after christmas
A2 again looks like Rosenthal is going to be a tough beat from here with runs and wickets also.
A3 well the mover is southwell. best bowler in the comp but a huge streak IMO he moves it both ways and takes wickets consistantly.

Pooraka still will win again!
Ingle farm has surprised but i think they might stagger. i still like scotch.
so far gepps and iggies have been up and about but im still not convinced on them. after christmas should be interesting here for the top 4

Farms bowling attack is second to none, chasing 120-160 is still going to be a nervous exercise especially if that happens in a final.
Yet to nail down that batsmen that can anchor an innings time after time.
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Re: ATCA

Postby FrankW » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:13 pm

The T20 finals fixtures out and Div 1 looks like this (home team mentioned first obviously)
All games are Tuesday 16th Jan at 5:10pm

PAOC v Para Hills
Marion v Goodwood
Old Scotch v SHOC
SPOC v Fulham
Flinders Park v Port Districts
Modbury v Pooraka (2)
Pooraka (1) v Ingle Farm
Hectorville v Hope Valley

PAOC and Para Hills should be close. And Marion might give Goodwood a run. But you'd expect most if not all of the higher grade teams to progress
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