Jeez what are the Yanks thinkin

[dinglinga]

just readin sav roccas bio on the philly website

Signed by the Eagles on 1/25/07. One of the best players in the history of the Australian Football League, played in 257 career games and scored 748 goals in his 15-year career for the Collingwood Magpies (1992-99) and the North Melbourne Kangaroos (2000-2006).

CAREER HIGHLIGHTS:
• Played for North Melbourne from 2000-06, leading the team in goals from 2001-02, and in 2004
• After debuting for Collingwood in 1992, was the Magpies' leading goalkicker from 1993-99
• In 1997, finished 2nd behind Tony Modra in the running for the Coleman Medal, which is given annually to the league's top goal-scorer
• Was the 1995 recipient of the Copeland Shield, which is given to the Collingwood player who is judged as "Best and Fairest" for that year


know sav was a GOOD player but one of the best players in history

[GWW]

Wouldn't take much notice of that, they probably wouldn't even know the difference between Aussie Rules and Rugby League.

[the wonder elephant]

didnt know sav won a copland trophy well done !

[heater31]

just a bit of American exaggeration. went to uni with some college kids this time last year. They thought we were mad for playing a game like that. But they loved it.


We were just as astounded by their stories. Their College football stadium had enough room to fit the entire town and campus with room for visiting fans also about 80k all up half with locals

[Dutchy]

you blokes have little idea....when you have kicked as many goals as Sav I believe he is regarded as one of the best players ever, there is no doubt he is a future hall of famer so surely that makes him one of the best?

He sits 12th on all time list of goalkickers, ahead of Kernahan, Carey, Bartlett, Hudson

Mind you I dont think the yanks would have made that up, they would have just gone with what someone had told them from here...

[Aerie]

He wasn't even one of the best players in his era, let alone ever.

[Dutchy]

He wasn't even one of the best players in his era, let alone ever.

please explain

[Aerie]

He wasn't even one of the best players in his era, let alone ever.

please explain

No Coleman Medals.
Never an All Australian.
Delisted by Collingwood.
Less than 3 goals per game average for a stay at home FF (which isn't bad, but just not great).

A servicable player who had a long career. Wouldn't rate him near the best players though.

[GWW]

you blokes have little idea....when you have kicked as many goals as Sav I believe he is regarded as one of the best players ever, there is no doubt he is a future hall of famer so surely that makes him one of the best?

He sits 12th on all time list of goalkickers, ahead of Kernahan, Carey, Bartlett, Hudson

Mind you I dont think the yanks would have made that up, they would have just gone with what someone had told them from here...

One of the best players ever?? Wouldn't even be in the top 300 players of all time.

[Rik E Boy]

Sav? Hall of Fame? Come on Dutchy, I mean, I know he wore a blue and white singlet but come on! Underrated yes, Hall of Fame...er..no.

regards,

REB

[Dutchy]

no respect

AFL Goalkicking Records
1 1360 Lockett, T. 281 1983 StK/Syd
2 1299 Coventry, G. 306 1920 Coll
3 1254 Dunstall, J. 269 1985 Haw
4 1057 Wade, D. 267 1961 Geel/NM
5 1030 Ablett, G. 248 1982 Haw/Geel
6 970 Titus, J. 294 1926 Rich
7 915 Matthews, L. 332 1969 Haw
8 874 McKenna, P. 191 1965 Coll/Carl
9 824 Lloyd, M.* 229 1995 Ess
10 817 Quinlan, B. 366 1969 Foot/Fitz
11 778 Bartlett, K. 403 1965 Rich
12 748 Rocca, S. 257 1992 Coll/Kang
13 740 Richardson, M.* 254 1993 Rich
14 738 Kernahan, S. 251 1986 Carl
15 735 Mohr, B. 195 1929 StK
16 727 Hudson, P. 129 1967 Haw
17 727 Carey, W. 272 1989 NM/Adel
18 722 Vallence, H. 204 1926 Carl
19 707 Lee, D. 230 1906 Coll
20 681 Pratt, B. 158 1930 SM

Players in BOLD are Hall of Fame inductee's, the ones not in bold will be, anyone left? No.

try again kids...

[smac]

And of those who were/are full forwards in the modern form of the game, how many have a better average of goals per game? (haven't calculated this, just guessing and am anticipating getting smashed on this point ).

I think he was a very good player but great? No. Hall of Fame? Unlikely, IMO.

If it were the Hall of Fame for back hair, he would be a monty.

[Dutchy]

thats the problem most underestimate how good he was for some reason...

He set the standard for kicking goals outside 50m and broke new ground in this area

based on the above and players around him he has to be a monty to be in the Hall of Fame

[GWW]

"One of the best players ever" to me, implies top 20, or top 50 (over last 130 years). THERES NO WAY SAV IS EVEN TOP 100!!

Good, maybe "great" player at his peak, but certainly not one of the GREATEST EVER.

[rod_rooster]

If it were the Hall of Fame for back hair, he would be a monty.

[hearts on fire]

Sav was good, but not a powerhouse forward who would kick 60+ goals a year, he was mayb a tad under rated but i believe not good enough to be in the hall of fame or top 100 players..........

[Dutchy]

based on the above and players around him he has to be a monty to be in the Hall of Fame

anyone want to challenge this or ignore the fact that every player in the Top 20 goalkickers in the history of our game has or will be in the HOF?

[GWW]

based on the above and players around him he has to be a monty to be in the Hall of Fame

anyone want to challenge this or ignore the fact that every player in the Top 20 goalkickers in the history of our game has or will be in the HOF?

Probably all except Sav

[smac]

And of those who were/are full forwards in the modern form of the game, how many have a better average of goals per game?

I did.

[hearts on fire]

based on the above and players around him he has to be a monty to be in the Hall of Fame

anyone want to challenge this or ignore the fact that every player in the Top 20 goalkickers in the history of our game has or will be in the HOF?

Probably all except Sav

If Sav gets into the hall of fame, Ian Perrie will be the next inductee