Southern Football League

[morell]

Any truth to the rumour Marion played players under different names on the weekend?

And still done them no help .

Where is Dutchy?

Actually they won I believe - this is the Bs. Have also heard that the player's name in question was actually an ex Lonsdale player.

If you're going to do it, maybe don't use the name of a player that used to be part of the club you're up against.

[Dutchy]

Im here!

[Tiger83]

From SFL Facebook page:

The following paper was sent to clubs today, inviting discussion around recreating a two division structure in the SFL. Any feedback that can be added to the process will gratefully be taken on board. This is a paper designed to create discussion, any final proposal will be created based on feedback received from clubs and SFL supporters.

Southern Football League – Two Divisional Competition

Introduction
There still exists in the Southern Football League (SFL) disparate results as some A grade teams struggle to become competitive again. With two clubs moving to Adelaide Footy League at the end of last season and the withdrawal of Hackham from the A and B grade competition the league has become an 11-team competition with 2 clubs still facing regular heavy defeats at A grade level. A two-division structure has been previously rejected as a possibility due to there currently being less clubs in the competition than there were when the previous 2 division competitions were merged into a single division competition, and the fact that only one club self-identified as being a division 2 club.

Possible 2 Division Scenario
With Hackham enjoying success playing in the C grade competition another possibility has arisen for the formation of a second division; making the C grade competition the basis of a second division.
This could give the following scenario based on current circumstances

Division 1 Division 2

Morphett Vale OSB/Lonsdale
Flagstaff Hill Marion
Noarlunga Hackham
Cove Reynella
Christies Beach Happy Valley (1 team)
Port Noarlunga Flagstaff Hill (1 team)
Reynella Morphett Vale (1 team)
Happy Valley Christies Beach (1 team)
Aldinga

A 9-team division 1 competition would see teams playing each other twice each, home and away, with 2 byes. This leaves room for one of the division 2 clubs to return to division 1 once they had rebuilt, or for another club to join our competition. A 5-team finals structure would see finals remain a 4-week program.
An 8-team division 2 program is definitely viable, leading to a 4-team finals structure played over 3 weeks, with the division 2 grand final held the weekend before the division 1 grand final. Programming around clubs without a division 2 B grade team could be managed using A grade double headers to minimise splitting up of clubs on the day.

Further Considerations
Many issues would need to be worked through. Among these are: -
- Saturday or Sunday competition, or a hybrid
o Initial SFL executive thoughts are for this to be a Saturday based competition. Being on a Saturday would free up space on Sunday for the mini-league and female competitions. There is currently consideration for moving mini-league to single year age groups, U8, U9, U10, U11 and U12. There has been expressed interest from 4 clubs about joining in the female competitions in 2018.
- Junior grades
o Suggestion would be for division 2 to be non-mandatory 2 junior grade competitions, possibly under 14s and under 17s. The existing Sunday junior competition could form the basis of the division 2 juniors. Consideration would need to be given to whether this became a Saturday grade or remained on Sunday. There is currently consideration for forming an under 12 competition either in place of or in parallel with the existing under 12 participation grade. This would allow under 12 players from the division 2 clubs to play a competition grade if they don’t have access to under 13s at their club.
- Promotion/Relegation
o Initial suggestion is for promotion and relegation to be based on end of season reviews of all club performances. Once the competitions have matured regulations can be put in place for automatic or semi-automatic promotion and relegation. A possibility exists for a challenge match to be a part of the promotion/relegation system.
- Protection for Division 2 Clubs
o Particularly at junior levels some protection from large losses of players to division 1 clubs may be required to allow the division 2 clubs the opportunity to rebuild.

Conclusion
It is strongly felt that serious exploration of these ideas should be undertaken for the future health of our league. The reformation of division 2 would enable currently struggling clubs the opportunity to rebuild whilst enjoying some on field success and would leave us a relatively competitive division 1. There may also be the opportunity for other clubs to consider moving (back) to the SFL or to field some teams in the SFL.

[Look Good In Leather]

Proposal:

Division 1
Morphett Vale
Flagstaff Hill
Noarlunga
Cove
Christies Beach
Port Noarlunga
Reynella
Happy Valley
Aldinga

Division 2
OSB/Lonsdale
Marion
Hackham
Reynella (2 teams)
Happy Valley (1 team)
Flagstaff Hill (1 team)
Morphett Vale (1 team)
Christies Beach (1 team)

[ball breaker]

I'm sorry, but the SFL is cooked. Hard decisions that needed to be made years ago has subsequently resulted in the SFL being in the situation it is now. what the answer is, I don't know.

div 2???? well it's filled with C grade teams of all the Div 1 teams! So will Marion and OSB Lonsdale only have 1 senior side? or will Div 2 have a reserve grade as well

If I was running a club currently in the SFL, I would be making contact with a local netball club, ensure I have a majority of teams in both the footy and netball and arrange to join the GSFL!

[Dutchy]

Where has this come from all of a sudden? Threat of more clubs leaving?

[shoe boy]

Proposal:

Division 1
Morphett Vale
Flagstaff Hill
Noarlunga
Cove
Christies Beach
Port Noarlunga
Reynella
Happy Valley
Aldinga

Division 2
OSB/Lonsdale
Marion
Hackham
Reynella (2 teams)
Happy Valley (1 team)
Flagstaff Hill (1 team)
Morphett Vale (1 team)
Christies Beach (1 team)

Just re branding C grade comp ?
This was how div 2 started years ago ?
Would Reynella have 2 sides in C grade?

[godra]

Proposal:

Division 1
Morphett Vale
Flagstaff Hill
Noarlunga
Cove
Christies Beach
Port Noarlunga
Reynella
Happy Valley
Aldinga

Division 2
OSB/Lonsdale
Marion
Hackham
Reynella (2 teams)
Happy Valley (1 team)
Flagstaff Hill (1 team)
Morphett Vale (1 team)
Christies Beach (1 team)

Just re branding C grade comp ?
This was how div 2 started years ago ?
Would Reynella have 2 sides in C grade?

Too little too late.

It's essentially a C grade comp, only difference is now making OSB/Lonsdale and Marion C grade teams. My query is what happens to their B grade?

I can't see teams that have left the SFL to come back to this. They're likely happy in Amateurs, no reason to come back now.

[am Bays]

I'm sorry, but the SFL is cooked. Hard decisions that needed to be made years ago has subsequently resulted in the SFL being in the situation it is now. what the answer is, I don't know.

div 2???? well it's filled with C grade teams of all the Div 1 teams! So will Marion and OSB Lonsdale only have 1 senior side? or will Div 2 have a reserve grade as well

If I was running a club currently in the SFL, I would be making contact with a local netball club, ensure I have a majority of teams in both the footy and netball and arrange to join the GSFL!

Unlikely to be accepted into the GSFL.

GSFL happy with 10 teams, makes for a nice 18 game season with home and away fixtures, breaks for rep games and four weeks of finals. one - two weeks off then into the GSCA.

GSFL isn't interested in one iota of taking any SFL teams unless a current GSFL team falls over.

[morell]

So Reynella A's would play Christies Beach C's in that comp right?

and the idea is to level the scores out?

[morell]

It's pretty simple. Just join the Adelaide Footy League you bunch of galahs.

[Front & Centre]

So Reynella A's would play Christies Beach C's in that comp right?

and the idea is to level the scores out?

no one of Reynella's 2 c grade teams could play in that division

[Front & Centre]

Most likely scenario is not what the SFL have put forward but perhaps this is the "push" Lonsdale and Marion have needed for a while to move on
Hackham may choose to stay in the C grade or also move on
That will leave us with a 9 team competition with each club having a full set of teams on Saturdays and room for another club if they would like to join providing they bring a full set of juniors with them.

[MatteeG]

Would have been so much easier when there was 16 (or 17!) teams way back.

Assuming DIv 2 would also play on Saturdays, how can you assume all those C grade teams this year would be able to fill a Div 2 'A' grade?

[MatteeG]

Also be awkward if one of the Div 1 'third' sides qualified for promotion...

[morell]

So Reynella A's would play Christies Beach C's in that comp right?

and the idea is to level the scores out?

no one of Reynella's 2 c grade teams could play in that division

My mistake I didn't see Reynella in Div1 too.

I think the idea has merit but needs some tweaking. The SFL cannot maintain the status quo, that much is for certain. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results isn't going to cut it.

There is no Northern Football League. I see no reason for a Southern Football League. With new infrastructure and the urban sprawl, there isn't even a geographical need anymore. Would ultimately think the entire comp could be merged in the with the AdFL over time.

[Look Good In Leather]

So Reynella A's would play Christies Beach C's in that comp right?

and the idea is to level the scores out?

no one of Reynella's 2 c grade teams could play in that division

My mistake I didn't see Reynella in Div1 too.

I think the idea has merit but needs some tweaking. The SFL cannot maintain the status quo, that much is for certain. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results isn't going to cut it.

There is no Northern Football League. I see no reason for a Southern Football League. With new infrastructure and the urban sprawl, there isn't even a geographical need anymore. Would ultimately think the entire comp could be merged in the with the AdFL over time.

Is the AdFL going to provide a full day of football, including juniors? - no

That is why there is still a reason, and why there is still a Hills FL (Eastern).

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[The Bedge]

Take Mitchell Park into the SFL

[morell]

So Reynella A's would play Christies Beach C's in that comp right?

and the idea is to level the scores out?

no one of Reynella's 2 c grade teams could play in that division

My mistake I didn't see Reynella in Div1 too.

I think the idea has merit but needs some tweaking. The SFL cannot maintain the status quo, that much is for certain. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results isn't going to cut it.

There is no Northern Football League. I see no reason for a Southern Football League. With new infrastructure and the urban sprawl, there isn't even a geographical need anymore. Would ultimately think the entire comp could be merged in the with the AdFL over time.

Is the AdFL going to provide a full day of football, including juniors? - no

That is why there is still a reason, and why there is still a Hills FL (Eastern).

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Seems like a relatively minor issue that would be relatively easily solved compared to the overall concept of you know, not having a viable competition at all.

As an aside, we negotiated to have Friday night home games with our junior comp this year. I am sure something could be worked out.

[Pag]

no one of Reynella's 2 c grade teams could play in that division

My mistake I didn't see Reynella in Div1 too.

I think the idea has merit but needs some tweaking. The SFL cannot maintain the status quo, that much is for certain. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results isn't going to cut it.

There is no Northern Football League. I see no reason for a Southern Football League. With new infrastructure and the urban sprawl, there isn't even a geographical need anymore. Would ultimately think the entire comp could be merged in the with the AdFL over time.

Is the AdFL going to provide a full day of football, including juniors? - no

That is why there is still a reason, and why there is still a Hills FL (Eastern).

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Seems like a relatively minor issue that would be relatively easily solved compared to the overall concept of you know, not having a viable competition at all.

As an aside, we negotiated to have Friday night home games with our junior comp this year. I am sure something could be worked out.

If Marion join the C9AFL, aren't you down to 10 A grade clubs? Perfect draw, no byes. Obviously Lonsdale would still be a bit off the pace but I'm sure would/could improve over time. Isn't that a more logical solution that's when been mooted?