MRP

[Bandit]

I hope Clayton Oliver the pastey white dog gets weeks too. F**kin whities!

Funny how the world we live in has no problems with this statement... change the word white and you would have earned yourself a sit on the bench.

[HH3]

The social media outrage at Houli's suspension is strangely disproportionate.

How so?

it's so vehement, you'd think he killed a bloke.

I think most people are more outraged at the MRP than Houli.

People understand shit happens, but you can't talk big for years about protecting the head and then hand out that suspension.

[HH3]

Just bumping this so people don't miss it.

THE AFL will appeal what it believes is a “manifestly inadequate” two-game ban handed to Richmond defender Bachar Houli by the tribunal on Tuesday night.

In an unprecedented action, the AFL notified both the appeals board and the Tigers just before midday on Wednesday to confirm it would appeal the decision on Thursday evening.

“The AFL has determined it will appeal the Bachar Houli tribunal case on the grounds that the sanction was manifestly inadequate,” the AFL said in a statement.

It is the first time the AFL has ever appealed a tribunal decision.

Houli was suspended for two games after an incident that saw Carlton’s Jed Lamb knocked out during Sunday’s clash at the MCG.

He had been referred directly to the tribunal by the MRP, where he was found guilty of intentionally striking the Blues forward.

[Jim05]

4 week spell coming up

[Q.]

I hope Clayton Oliver the pastey white dog gets weeks too. F**kin whities!

Funny how the world we live in has no problems with this statement... change the word white and you would have earned yourself a sit on the bench.

I must have been asleep in history class where they discussed the historical global oppression of the the white race at the hands of other races

[Lightning McQueen]

Bachar Houli arguing his hit on Lamb was reckless, not intentional. If he succeeds he will only get 2 weeks.

So he doesn't like Pork or Lamb.

[Jimmy_041]

Funny how the vision has been taken down everywhere....... except:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/lamb-kod-cold-by-houli-whack!630354

From around the 30 second mark

I'd give him 4+ games for it (recognising the AFL give less games than Ch9 AFL)
Considering the damage it did, he'd be looking at 6-8

No intention to hit him my ar$e.

[JK]

Bachar Houli arguing his hit on Lamb was reckless, not intentional. If he succeeds he will only get 2 weeks.

So he doesn't like Pork or Lamb.

You know it makes sense

[Lightning McQueen]

So he doesn't like Pork or Lamb.

You know it makes sense

I have no beef with it.

[cracka]

Funny how the vision has been taken down everywhere....... except:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/lamb-kod-cold-by-houli-whack!630354

From around the 30 second mark

I'd give him 4+ games for it (recognising the AFL give less games than Ch9 AFL)
Considering the damage it did, he'd be looking at 6-8

No intention to hit him my ar$e.

Ahh ok. Fair bit different from the Barry Hall one.

[HH3]

What do you think of the ruling, and the subsequent appeal @Q.?

[Wedgie]

Lol @ Oliver's latest twitter profile pic

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[HH3]

Even members of the MRP think the character witness stuffs a load of shit.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-28/m ... ke-defence

[Q.]

What do you think of the ruling, and the subsequent appeal @Q.?

About right from the start, very similar to Toby Greene punching Daniel in the chops. Houli was always going to have the games downgraded due to clean record.

[Jimmy_041]

Funny how the vision has been taken down everywhere....... except:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/video/afl/afl/lamb-kod-cold-by-houli-whack!630354

From around the 30 second mark

I'd give him 4+ games for it (recognising the AFL give less games than Ch9 AFL)
Considering the damage it did, he'd be looking at 6-8

No intention to hit him my ar$e.

Ahh ok. Fair bit different from the Barry Hall one.

Slightly. Some of the tribunals I've sat on take the view that if you swing your arm (and fist) around, the fact that you cant see what's there makes only a slight difference. In fact, I've heard some tribunals say its more dangerous because you have no idea where you are going to hit.
I'd give it Reckless Severe High/Groin so 6-8 weeks
In fact, have a look at the Ch9 AFL Tribunal Reference Manual. It somewhat caters for it. The question I would have is whether doing it in a chase is more or less culpable than a pack

[HH3]

What do you think of the ruling, and the subsequent appeal @Q.?

About right from the start, very similar to Toby Greene punching Daniel in the chops. Houli was always going to have the games downgraded due to clean record.

You don't think the fact Lamb was knocked unconscious should have added games? (knowing that the AFL have stated the resulting injury will be taken into account)

[Q.]

What do you think of the ruling, and the subsequent appeal @Q.?

About right from the start, very similar to Toby Greene punching Daniel in the chops. Houli was always going to have the games downgraded due to clean record.

You don't think the fact Lamb was knocked unconscious should have added games?

Nah, I've never believed that whether are bloke is injured or not should weigh in on a tribunal decision.

[Lightning McQueen]

Nah, I've never believed that whether are bloke is injured or not should weigh in on a tribunal decision.

I think the other way, if a player misses 4 for a reportable injury, the offender should miss at least 5

[HH3]

Ok but it doesn't matter what you believe. It's what the AFL and MRP says.

Jimmy Bartel said this 10 days ago. It wasn't a jumper punch. But it also was a "football act".

The MRP has been working overtime this season adjudicating on jumper and gut punches, and a crackdown on those "non-football acts" seems to have done its job.

But bumping remains a legal part of the game and all three players were involved in bumps or collisions of varying degrees in round 13 that will scrutinised by Bartel and his fellow members, presumably with the understanding that they were in play.

"It would be great if you had something you call football acts and non-football acts," Bartel said on RSN late last month.

"By that I mean when you're trying to execute a football act and something goes wrong, as we talk about sling tackles or shepherding, spoiling, it's graded in a certain way.

"Things like punching are not a part of our game, so obviously that table would be significantly higher … which is, I think, what people want."

[Senor Moto Gadili]

What do you think of the ruling, and the subsequent appeal @Q.?

About right from the start, very similar to Toby Greene punching Daniel in the chops. Houli was always going to have the games downgraded due to clean record.

You don't think the fact Lamb was knocked unconscious should have added games?

Nah, I've never believed that whether are bloke is injured or not should weigh in on a tribunal decision.

It was graded Intentional/High/High Impact, so the High Impact covers the fact that he was knocked out. Tribunal chairman, Ross Howie pointed out that all there has to be is an intention to strike Lamb, regardless of where the blow might land or whether there was an intention to hurt. I believe he wil end up with 4 down to 3...which is about right in my eyes