by therisingblues » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:53 pm
by Magellan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:00 am
GWW wrote:Zartan wrote:Australia will become a Republic one of these days, then we can celebrate "Australia Day" on that date, for that reason
These are my thoughts as well, sooner the better too.
Once its done (breaking away from monarchy), would like to see something like a 4 day weekend in June, taking over existing Queens Birthday - the Friday could be "Recognition Day" or perhaps "Mabo Day", and the Monday could be "Australian Sovereignity Day".
by Magellan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:03 am
Zartan wrote:Okay.. here's another question - how do people feel about the possibility of changing the Australian flag? Is this as sacred as the national holiday? What about the national anthem? Would you be against changing that (again)?
by Booney » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:00 am
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:04 am
by Dogwatcher » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:31 am
by Q. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:37 am
Zartan wrote:Moving the date isn't about acknowledging anything - it's about allowing EVERYONE to feel comfortable to enjoy and celebrate the land we live in, everything great about it, it's culture and diversity.
by Booney » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:58 am
Dogwatcher wrote:Australia Day - I am on the fence. I would have no problem changing it, but don't mind it as it is. Although, flag-cape wearing should be banned, as should some of the jingoism that goes along with it. And, I'd like people to at least consider the impact of colonisation on our Indigenous people.
Republic - Yes, please.
Flag - Change. Get rid of that thing in the corner. And, contrary to popular belief, we didn't fight two World Wars under that flag.
Anthem - Ambivalent. It is only about 40-years old, but I can live with it.
by Booney » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:58 am
Q. wrote:Zartan wrote:Moving the date isn't about acknowledging anything - it's about allowing EVERYONE to feel comfortable to enjoy and celebrate the land we live in, everything great about it, it's culture and diversity.
This sums up for me why it should be moved.
Right now, it just feels like we're 'dancing on the graves', so to speak.
by bennymacca » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:18 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Perhaps we shouldn't think so heavily about things and just enjoy the day with family and friends and cook a BBQ and drink some alcohol whilst playing some backyard cricket.
Anyhoo that's what I'll be doing.
by Booney » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:21 pm
bennymacca wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Perhaps we shouldn't think so heavily about things and just enjoy the day with family and friends and cook a BBQ and drink some alcohol whilst playing some backyard cricket.
Anyhoo that's what I'll be doing.
(I am making the assumption you are white)
It's easy for us to say meh don't think too hard about it but I'm sure that's a slap in the face for aboriginals who think we are trying to sweep it under the carpet.
My preference would be to become a republic (probably when QEII passes), replace the Union Jack on our flag with the aboriginal one, and move Australia Day to republic day
by Q. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:24 pm
Booney wrote:Q. wrote:Zartan wrote:Moving the date isn't about acknowledging anything - it's about allowing EVERYONE to feel comfortable to enjoy and celebrate the land we live in, everything great about it, it's culture and diversity.
This sums up for me why it should be moved.
Right now, it just feels like we're 'dancing on the graves', so to speak.
When do you propose? ( Not August 9th ).
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:27 pm
bennymacca wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Perhaps we shouldn't think so heavily about things and just enjoy the day with family and friends and cook a BBQ and drink some alcohol whilst playing some backyard cricket.
Anyhoo that's what I'll be doing.
(I am making the assumption you are white)
It's easy for us to say meh don't think too hard about it but I'm sure that's a slap in the face for aboriginals who think we are trying to sweep it under the carpet.
My preference would be to become a republic (probably when QEII passes), replace the Union Jack on our flag with the aboriginal one, and move Australia Day to republic day
by The Bedge » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:40 pm
amber_fluid wrote:How about whatever day we have it we learn to treat and respect each other better than our ancestors did before us.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by The Bedge » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:42 pm
amber_fluid wrote:I know many aboriginals who don't actually want the date changed as they like and accept it for what it is......good and bad..
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by am Bays » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:49 pm
Q. wrote:Zartan wrote:Moving the date isn't about acknowledging anything - it's about allowing EVERYONE to feel comfortable to enjoy and celebrate the land we live in, everything great about it, it's culture and diversity.
This sums up for me why it should be moved.
Right now, it just feels like we're 'dancing on the graves', so to speak.
by amber_fluid » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:50 pm
Zartan wrote:amber_fluid wrote:How about whatever day we have it we learn to treat and respect each other better than our ancestors did before us.
This would indeed be a good start! However, what recognition or respect do A&TSI people get on Australia Day?
The day holds value to almost everyone - new arrivals becoming citizens, achievements recognised, games of cricket and beers lol.. but very very little in regards to recognising our actual past.
Over the past few years, the only headlines i've ever heard in regards to A&STI people and Australia Day is "Aboriginal Protestors mar Australia Day celebrations". I've never seen or heard of ATSI's being painted in a positive light on Australia Day (happy to be proven wrong).. this is amplified now with FB and other social media where redneck bogans get on and throw their own 2c in..
I cant stand the line "It's my country, if ya dont like it then f**k off.. Straya c**t!" - especially when a large percentage of those bogans are unemployed, pot smoking deadbeats who are happily living off the system which supports them.
Hmm cant really remember where i was going with this anyway haha - in fact i'm pretty sure i went right off topic
by am Bays » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:52 pm
Zartan wrote:amber_fluid wrote:I know many aboriginals who don't actually want the date changed as they like and accept it for what it is......good and bad..
I like and accept it for what it is, but i'd still like the date changed - i respect, understand and value the reasons behind pushing for a change.
I still also think a change would bring Australia closer together.
by The Bedge » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:53 pm
amber_fluid wrote:That's my whole point though...... the actual date is irrelevant.
It's about recognising and respecting people of all nationalities that have come to make this country what it is.
Removing the Union Jack or changing a date won't achieve this IMO.
Education and open discussion is the only way.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by The Bedge » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:54 pm
am Bays wrote:Proclamation Day here in SA, should we get rid of that too??
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
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