2016 Silly Season, Trades and Rumours and utter BS

[valleys07]

Poor **** in list management, get kicked for doing nothing and then improve our position in the this draft considerably and get kicked for doing so.

If I can borrow someone from here's crystal ball I'd appreciate it.

The only way this will be beneficial to us, is by nabbing a ready made KPF player in the Battle mould (I think Marshall and Kerr are still a way off), and finish 3-8 next year.

I believe we are likely to miss the finals, and if we end up drafting 3 mids/flanker types this year and miss out on a developing KPF next year with a top 10 pick, it's a flop.

But you are right, it's a trade that we won't know whether it's successful until early 2020's.

[Dogwatcher]

Watch us on trade 30 for a Greenwood.

That will piss me off, he's a hack. Even North were smart enough to move him on and they're clueless.

Err, he was second for us in tackles for 2016. And I'm pretty sure he was in the league top five for tackles inside 50m. Given you blokes are a pack of skirts, you could use someone willing to go to contest

I was disappointed to hear he was trade bait for those exact reasons.
We need hardness around the ball and he was valuable in that area last season, if no one else was.

[Booney]

Watch us on trade 30 for a Greenwood.

That will piss me off, he's a hack. Even North were smart enough to move him on and they're clueless.

Err, he was second for us in tackles for 2016. And I'm pretty sure he was in the league top five for tackles inside 50m. Given you blokes are a pack of skirts, you could use someone willing to go to contest

Port ranked 3rd for average tackles per game.

[Booney]

Poor **** in list management, get kicked for doing nothing and then improve our position in the this draft considerably and get kicked for doing so.

If I can borrow someone from here's crystal ball I'd appreciate it.

The only way this will be beneficial to us, is by nabbing a ready made KPF player in the Battle mould (I think Marshall and Kerr are still a way off), and finish 3-8 next year.

I believe we are likely to miss the finals, and if we end up drafting 3 mids/flanker types this year and miss out on a developing KPF next year with a top 10 pick, it's a flop.

But you are right, it's a trade that we won't know whether it's successful until early 2020's.

But wait, what? You mean all these people going ape droppings over this can't be doing so with any real substance?

Well, I'll be....

[valleys07]

Point is this Boon. We find ourselves in a position of higher risk of failing through poor contract management.

Our first mistake was signing players like Hartlett & Lobbe to 4+ year deals on the back of 1 good season. Now we want to flog them off on the back of their "true form" and whilst trade value is there (Hartlett in particular), no clubs will touch them because of their contract size.

I'd rather us improve our position in the draft by ridding ourselves of expendable players than sacrificing our position in a draft where players in a position of need for us will be readily available, and of high quality.

[Booney]

Point is this Boon. We find ourselves in a position of higher risk of failing through poor contract management.

Our first mistake was signing players like Hartlett & Lobbe to 4+ year deals on the back of 1 good season. Now we want to flog them off on the back of their "true form" and whilst trade value is there (Hartlett in particular), no clubs will touch them because of their contract size.

I'd rather us improve our position in the draft by ridding ourselves of expendable players than sacrificing our position in a draft where players in a position of need for us will be readily available, and of high quality.

Of course, but if no **** is buying then what do you do? You improve your position in the draft in front of us.

List management do nothing over the last 7 days to improve our position in this years draft and cop it, they get 3 picks inside the top 30 and cop it.

Players like Lobbe and Hartlett have been written off by the arm chair experts, so it must be true. From what I know a couple of pretty proud blokes will be setting themselves for a much improved 2017. We'll see, I guess.

[Jim05]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

[woodublieve12]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

Tom Mitchell's role at the Hawks just got a bit tougher. 5th midfielder at the Swans - now in top 2 at Hawks and will get a lot more attention.

[stan]

Geez we can hang shit on Port for there trade but christ they didnt just trade out a B&F for pick 88 and there vice captain for pick 61....

Oh and brought in Vickery on big coin with Tom Mitchell and a kid that hasnt played for 2 years

[Booney]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

While Melbourne are on the improve they aren't really here and now in premiership discussions, are they? Lewis will be 31 in March next year and the only thing that moves quickly with him is his bald spot encroaching on the rest of his head.

Seems like an odd trade for the Dees for mine and with Hawthorn in fire sale mode they'll take the picks and run.

[valleys07]

What would I do personally?

Cop our draft position sweet this season, and if we happen to make the 8 next season, then great, if not- pocket all the picks for the draft.

It's a midfielders draft this year. Now we are likely to secure a decent inside mid with 9. Unless we grab Battle, 19 and 30 won't be beneficial to our first 22 next year, nor is our player at pick 9 likely to.

Dixon doesn't fill me with much faith despite it being a trade we needed to make. I would have liked us had a top 10 pick next year to draft a high quality forward.

[stan]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

Tom Mitchell's role at the Hawks just got a bit tougher. 5th midfielder at the Swans - now in top 2 at Hawks and will get a lot more attention.

Yep. Ran riot at the swans because he could.

[Brodlach]

Watch us on trade 30 for a Greenwood.

That will piss me off, he's a hack. Even North were smart enough to move him on and they're clueless.

Err, he was second for us in tackles for 2016. And I'm pretty sure he was in the league top five for tackles inside 50m. Given you blokes are a pack of skirts, you could use someone willing to go to contest

Port ranked 3rd for average tackles per game.

Easy to be high in the average tackles per game when you are second to the ball

[Booney]

Easy to be high in the average tackles per game when you are second to the ball

Sydney were second for tackles per game.

[JK]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

While Melbourne are on the improve they aren't really here and now in premiership discussions, are they? Lewis will be 31 in March next year and the only thing that moves quickly with him is his bald spot encroaching on the rest of his head.

Seems like an odd trade for the Dees for mine and with Hawthorn in fire sale mode they'll take the picks and run.

Pretty good engineroom for the Dees now, and Hibberd should be a decent addition across halfback.

I wouldn't have them in the premiership equation, but most wouldn't have had the Dogs there before the season started either I guess

[Booney]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

While Melbourne are on the improve they aren't really here and now in premiership discussions, are they? Lewis will be 31 in March next year and the only thing that moves quickly with him is his bald spot encroaching on the rest of his head.

Seems like an odd trade for the Dees for mine and with Hawthorn in fire sale mode they'll take the picks and run.

Pretty good engineroom for the Dees now, and Hibberd should be a decent addition across halfback.

I wouldn't have them in the premiership equation, but most wouldn't have had the Dogs there before the season started either I guess

Dogs were $16 to win it at the start of '16. ( Melbourne are currently $26 )

[The Bedge]

Port ranked 3rd for average tackles per game.

I'd be interested to see how that tackles per game average compares in wins and losses - i can recall the Power making a large number of tackles in matches where they brought their A game and won the match.. but games they lost i cant imagine the numbers would be very flattering?

[Spargo]

Lewis officially a Demon. Melbourne gave up a packet of crisps for him virtually

While Melbourne are on the improve they aren't really here and now in premiership discussions, are they? Lewis will be 31 in March next year and the only thing that moves quickly with him is his bald spot encroaching on the rest of his head.

Seems like an odd trade for the Dees for mine and with Hawthorn in fire sale mode they'll take the picks and run.

Whilst they mightn't win a flag in the three years Lewis is there, his experience & know how that he can pass on is immeasurable. Having a four time premiership player at your club who is still easily in most teams starting 22 can only be a good thing.

[Booney]

Collingwood into Lynden Dunn.

[nuggety goodness]

Hamling goes to the dockers for a 2nd rounder and some late swaps..

The Dockers sent pick 35, 43 and 61 to the Bulldogs in exchange for Hamling, pick 40 and pick 63.

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