Outcoached!!

[am Bays]

FFS next he'll be asking if Matthew Robran was bettr than his dad!

Pfft how many AFL/VFL premierships did Barrie play in....

[Blue Boy]

Blue Boy

I am interested in your view re Birdman, can you provide some clarity

I thought early he was winning his position up forward - then mummbles took him off for a rest and then it looked like we were not going to score at all.

Whilst he is on the ground some thing will always happen - good , bad , ugly and spectacular - and in all that a good player always must stand him.

[carey18]

Toby couldnt ruck? Cornes just gets his kicks floating in the backline? Far out Robert Walls was calling it during the 3rd Quater that Lade couldnt jump and Crows had the third man coming over.Think even Stevie Wonder could of seen this one!

Speaking of Robert Walls, he should his ignorance by asking seriously if Brett Ebert was better than his dad.

FFS next he'll be asking if Matthew Robran was bettr than his dad!

Yeah heard that. Sometimes he just says some of the most stupid shit

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy

we need to remember, recently Birdman has been breaking down with injuries, he needs to be managed through a game, the coaching box needs to keep him fresh during a game so he can lead, jump, run and do al those unpredictable things, to enable this he needs a spell every now and then

gone are the days when players play all game without a spell

[mal]

Some very cluey people on here using the wonders of hindsight to back up there comments,hey Hondo?

Mal is right,if it was played at 12:40 today in bright sunshine Port would have a better chance of kicking 20+ goals,but the wind and rain suited the Edwards,Goodwin,McLeod's as they are older,harder bodies who can take more punishment and kick on.

The traps of having such a young side.

Well summised BOONEY
The Crows played well, Port were not disgraced
The reason why LADE rucked most of the night is because he was the only ruckman.
Had Maric pulled out 300 seconds before the game started then HUDSON would
have prob been made to do a similar long stint in the ruck.

The roar of the home crowd
The exhillerance of Simon GOODWIN
The damp conditions
The only having 1 ruckman 300 seconds before the game started for PP
The sheer overwhelming tenacity and hardness of AC

These were the winning factors
NOT so much of who outcoached who

As a follower of both clubs
This was another wonderful short term victory by AC [Craig leads 6-2 over Williams ?]
However those hard bodied experienced players the AC had last night will be retired soon
The long term suggests a PP dominance over AC in the next few years.

As for the coaches, they are 2 of the best in the comp
CHOKO who is a great coach of kids
CRAIGY for motivating a team to greater heights than a playing list would suggest

OUTCOACHED .....dont think so

[Psyber]

Toby couldnt ruck? Cornes just gets his kicks floating in the backline? Far out Robert Walls was calling it during the 3rd Quater that Lade couldnt jump and Crows had the third man coming over.Think even Stevie Wonder could of seen this one!

Speaking of Robert Walls, he should his ignorance by asking seriously if Brett Ebert was better than his dad.
FFS next he'll be asking if Matthew Robran was bettr than his dad!

Yes I thought Blighty was very restrained in not simply replying, "You idiot!" Brett is a good player, but not better than his Dad. And I agree about the Robran boys too - useful players but.....

It is the old Vic. thing - if they didn't play in the VFL they couldn't have been good - they'd say it about Bill Wedding and Gary MacIntosh too.

[Dutchy]

I dont understand Booney or Mal, the conditions suit however Port have had some wonderful wins this year in worse conditions that last night, including Collingwood at the G? plus Port were in front for the majority of the match...some poor excuses IMO, Crows were ripe for the taking coming off the Dome and a 6 day break and Port coming off 3 soft wins

[Psyber]

Well summised BOONEY
The Crows played well, Port were not disgraced
The reason why LADE rucked most of the night is because he was the only ruckman.
Had Maric pulled out 300 seconds before the game started then HUDSON would
have prob been made to do a similar long stint in the ruck...........

So what was wrong with rucking Thurstans and Chad Cornes and giving Lade at least some rest, and why pull Thurstans off after such a brief and reasonably successful time on the ball?

If the Crows had lost Maric [instead of Bock] last minute, players like Perrie, Bock, McGregor, Gill, even Burton, could have been used to give Hudson some recovery time, and it would have been poor coaching not to do so.

[Blue Boy]

Blue Boy

we need to remember, recently Birdman has been breaking down with injuries, he needs to be managed through a game, the coaching box needs to keep him fresh during a game so he can lead, jump, run and do al those unpredictable things, to enable this he needs a spell every now and then

gone are the days when players play all game without a spell

It was more a timing issue than anything else !!!

[Hondo]

Birdman still cops a lot of criticism (type 'Birdman' into this site's search engine) but IMO when he's fit and on-song he is very important to our side ... and was great last night.

[carey18]

Fair dinkum all week we heard how the crows wouldnt get withing ten goals now they win and we are hearing the night didnt suit the power? Lets only play when the condiotions suit them and when it is there home game the right time slot so the can actually go

[Blue Boy]

Fair dinkum all week we heard how the crows wouldnt get withing ten goals now they win and we are hearing the night didnt suit the power? Lets only play when the condiotions suit them and when it is there home game the right time slot so the can actually go

All week i thought we were gonna get belted - for some reason it feels pretty good to be wrong about that

[sydney-dog]

Mal

When Griffen was injured early in the 1st qtr against Carlton at the TD, Hudson did not ruck almost the entire game, instead Craigy shifted Perrie in to the ruck, this enabled Hudson to get his 10 minute spells every qtr

Yes, not ideal that Brogan fell over in the warm up, however, Chocco still had options and decided for what ever reasons not to execute these options.

In regards to your suggestion of Port Power dominance over Adelaide in the near future, in my view this is totally unfounded

Last night the Power where in red hot form, the crows had loss 3 in a row, yes Tredders and Brogran were missing, however the Crows were minus Rutten, Bassett, Bock, Roo and Radar and we also lost Kenny early in the first.

Port had everything going for them and failed to deliver

It is also my opinion that too many footy followers under-rate the crows younger players, Proplyzia, Knights, Maric, Van Berlo, Douglas and Griffen will be as good as the Power young players.

My question mark over the Power young players is they seem to be targeting too many players which are the same type of player, that is quick outside runners, and until they find a couple of Josh Carr and Roger James types they will struggle against accountable opposition..

I have it on pretty good mail, Port have already approached the Tigers regarding a trade for Kraouker, once again, another same type of player, "a receiver"

Lets be honest, Carr, Pickett, Hardwick and James were the key to the Power's premiership success, for some reason they have replaced this type of player with front runner receivers...

I may be proven wrong, but in my opinion I do not believe Port will win a flag with this group of players until they find some more players, who are hard in and under and who are prepared to win the contested football in all conditions

They may not be as flashy but at least Van Berlo, Proplyzia and Douglas have already showed a willingless to win the contested footy

[Leaping Lindner]

Toby couldnt ruck? Cornes just gets his kicks floating in the backline? Far out Robert Walls was calling it during the 3rd Quater that Lade couldnt jump and Crows had the third man coming over.Think even Stevie Wonder could of seen this one!

Speaking of Robert Walls, he should his ignorance by asking seriously if Brett Ebert was better than his dad.

FFS next he'll be asking if Matthew Robran was bettr than his dad!

Think you'll find Walls had his tongue firmly in his cheek with that comment, and it went to back some earlier banter between him and Blight about Graham and Chad Cornes.
Walls is one of the few Victorian commentators that has a high regard and good knowledge of the SANFL.
Once on "On The Couch" Healy, Sheehan and Walls were discussing the best player to come from South Australia. Walls said "Barrie Robran". Sheehan did the predictable "But he didn't play VFL" to which Walls replied "Doesn't matter. He was the best!"

[leftlegger]

My Mum reckons that chocco was outcoached by craigy tonight either that or he tanked the game what do others think?

Tanked the game!
now isnt that just a classic Vicco Afl bullshit phrase thats snuck into our vocabulary.

[sydney-dog]

it's driven by the priority pick conspiracy

my view, remove the priority pick, this removes any suggestion of teams tanking

[spell_check]

Toby couldnt ruck? Cornes just gets his kicks floating in the backline? Far out Robert Walls was calling it during the 3rd Quater that Lade couldnt jump and Crows had the third man coming over.Think even Stevie Wonder could of seen this one!

Speaking of Robert Walls, he should his ignorance by asking seriously if Brett Ebert was better than his dad.

FFS next he'll be asking if Matthew Robran was bettr than his dad!

Think you'll find Walls had his tongue firmly in his cheek with that comment, and it went to back some earlier banter between him and Blight about Graham and Chad Cornes.
Walls is one of the few Victorian commentators that has a high regard and good knowledge of the SANFL.
Once on "On The Couch" Healy, Sheehan and Walls were discussing the best player to come from South Australia. Walls said "Barrie Robran". Sheehan did the predictable "But he didn't play VFL" to which Walls replied "Doesn't matter. He was the best!"

Walls should know - he played in that 1972 match. It's a pity though that only Victorian players who played against him either in State or Championship matches, as well as ex Victorian players like Patterson are the only Victorians who rate Robran in that regard.

[spell_check]

it's driven by the priority pick conspiracy

my view, remove the priority pick, this removes any suggestion of teams tanking

That, and have the bottom 8 teams get the first 8 picks between them, but in random order.

[sturt1]

Some very cluey people on here using the wonders of hindsight to back up there comments,hey Hondo?

Mal is right,if it was played at 12:40 today in bright sunshine Port would have a better chance of kicking 20+ goals,but the wind and rain suited the Edwards,Goodwin,McLeod's as they are older,harder bodies who can take more punishment and kick on.

The traps of having such a young side.

Regarding, just before the game started, you obviously new that the Crows would win?

[Booney]

I dont understand Booney or Mal, the conditions suit however Port have had some wonderful wins this year in worse conditions that last night, including Collingwood at the G? plus Port were in front for the majority of the match...some poor excuses IMO, Crows were ripe for the taking coming off the Dome and a 6 day break and Port coming off 3 soft wins

I did not say the conditions did not suit Port Adelaide,I just stated it suited Adelaide more than it did Port.No doubt.