Re: Points System Is Crucifying Country Footy

[Mr Beefy]

Any clubs having trouble recruiting players under this new salary cap,
Looks to me the brown paper bag business is going to boom this year.
How much does the zone registra get paid?
He's going to need a lot of petrol tickets chasing brown paper bags flying out car windows

Probably expected if some leagues adhere to salary cap and some don't

[shoe boy]

Any clubs having trouble recruiting players under this new salary cap,
Looks to me the brown paper bag business is going to boom this year.
How much does the zone registra get paid?
He's going to need a lot of petrol tickets chasing brown paper bags flying out car windows

Or if the players partner plays netball or tennis will be on $500 game

[Look Good In Leather]

Any clubs having trouble recruiting players under this new salary cap,
Looks to me the brown paper bag business is going to boom this year.
How much does the zone registra get paid?
He's going to need a lot of petrol tickets chasing brown paper bags flying out car windows

Or if the players partner plays netball or tennis will be on $500 game

Noarlunga Netball Club going to have a highly paid team next year?

[oyster]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

[cracka]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

[oyster]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

Thats fine if clubs or leagues don't want to be a part of the new SACFL rules. Who are the SACFL to be dictating to leagues and clubs how to run their own competitions in the first place? Each league are in control of their own competition and not the SACFL. BUT when leagues have voted to be a part of the salary cap, then they are being hypocrites to then find ways of breaking the rules. Thats far worse than leagues and clubs who vote against it. At least these leagues and clubs have had the guts to tell the SACFL straight to their face. The clubs control leagues and the clubs tell the league how they want to be governed and not the SACFL. Either vote YES or NO, but when voting YES accept the rules in place.

[cracka]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

Thats fine if clubs or leagues don't want to be a part of the new SACFL rules. Who are the SACFL to be dictating to leagues and clubs how to run their own competitions in the first place? Each league are in control of their own competition and not the SACFL. BUT when leagues have voted to be a part of the salary cap, then they are being hypocrites to then find ways of breaking the rules. Thats far worse than leagues and clubs who vote against it. At least these leagues and clubs have had the guts to tell the SACFL straight to their face. The clubs control leagues and the clubs tell the league how they want to be governed and not the SACFL. Either vote YES or NO, but when voting YES accept the rules in place.

Apparently no club's spend more than what is being proposed anyway so why the big dramas & need for brown paper bags or ways to get around the new salary cap.

[shoe boy]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

As a CLUB we voted no !

[whufc]

Any clubs having trouble recruiting players under this new salary cap,
Looks to me the brown paper bag business is going to boom this year.
How much does the zone registra get paid?
He's going to need a lot of petrol tickets chasing brown paper bags flying out car windows

Or if the players partner plays netball or tennis will be on $500 game

Noarlunga Netball Club going to have a highly paid team next year?

Goodluck getting the money of the misses.

[shoe boy]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

Or they don't like to be dictated too by a body that has an agenda that has nothing to do with equalisation !

[OnSong]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

Or they don't like to be dictated too by a body that has an agenda that has nothing to do with equalisation !

Exhibit A

[jet-airport]

Instead of finding ways (which is quite easy to do) in beating the salary cap rules. Why didn't the leagues and clubs simply vote NO? That would have been the easiest. Just tell the CFB to stick their rules where the sun doesn't shine and run the competitions as the clubs see fit. Simply doesn't make sense to vote yes and then look for ways to break the rules. Would have been easier to be upfront from the start

Or just abide by the rules the MAJORITY of clubs have agreed to & probably won't be affected by. Seems to me any clubs against the salary cap are the ones who spend a sh!tload of money on players.

Or they don't like to be dictated too by a body that has an agenda that has nothing to do with equalisation !

Exhibit A

Need some plumbing work.......

[oyster]

Was in a meeting today with a number of country footy people. Some are playing by the CFL rules and a bucket load aren't, is what I learnt.
Some say they will stick to the rules, but it is already badly effecting their ability to recruit players and they blame the salary cap.
The other clubs, said they'll just do as they please and play by their own rules. It seems as if it's a 50/50 split as to who's doing what.

What do you think will happen next year and the year after, when these clubs who struggle to recruit and are playing by the rules finish last?

Got a fair idea after listening to people chattering today. Playing by the rules will only last a season or two judging by the mood of some people.
Clubs their members and supporters in parochial country towns won't let clubs sit at the bottom of the cellar for too long. The members and sponsors will only put up with finishing last for a few seasons, before they refuse to abide by ridiculous rules that are impossible to police.

[oldbomber]

Was in a meeting today with a number of country footy people. Some are playing by the CFL rules and a bucket load aren't, is what I learnt.
Some say they will stick to the rules, but it is already badly effecting their ability to recruit players and they blame the salary cap.
The other clubs, said they'll just do as they please and play by their own rules. It seems as if it's a 50/50 split as to who's doing what.

What do you think will happen next year and the year after, when these clubs who struggle to recruit and are playing by the rules finish last?

Got a fair idea after listening to people chattering today. Playing by the rules will only last a season or two judging by the mood of some people.
Clubs their members and supporters in parochial country towns won't let clubs sit at the bottom of the cellar for too long. The members and sponsors will only put up with finishing last for a few seasons, before they refuse to abide by ridiculous rules that are impossible to police.

There is no easy answer that will work for everyone. It would be nice if equalisation was simple but it isnt. I think the salary cap is irrelevant, it can not be policed and is a lame attempt at self preservation by the amateurs who cant keep up with the fund raising out in the country. The one thing for certain is that the big spending clubs who can raise the money will continue to raise it and spend it legally or pay under the table. This will happen and whether it be required just to put a team on the park each week or be successful and go after premierships its more about basic survival in the long run.

It is getting harder and harder to put a team on the park in country footy each week and therefore keep small towns alive. Only the strong will survive... possibly being those clubs with the most passion and ability to raise funds...these things are important for the future

We live in a ever changing landscape where rural populations are declining along with numbers at grass root level across the board going to other sports or not having time to play footy anymore etc. Unfortuneatly it appears there is a bidding war that has broken out between country and city/amateur football for the players available. I personally believe city/amateurs doesnt have the same level of community, passion, support and atmosphere in general that is evident out in the country with regard to footy and if they did they wouldnt be trying to implement bull#$%! rules and restrictions they would take country footy on head first and try and beat them fair and square in fundraising...but they cant as the pure fact is they dont have the same level of desire, passion and sense of community that sporting clubs posess out in the country.

Hopefully somehow these small rural towns and clubs keep fighting to survive. its such an australian thing to be having a kick out in the paddock in the middle of nowhere with your mates and I enjoy nothing more than driving down the rural highways on a saturday past a town with as little as a silo and a footy oval in it, pulling over to watch a game crack a tinnie and have a chat with the locals. Cant do that in the city! Its awesome to find hundreds of people enjoying a day out at our great game and whilst i wish them well ultimately i couldnt give two shits about city/amateur footy solely because of their attempt at self preservation to enforce rules on country clubs and leagues because they cant beat or compete with them fairly.

Despite the difficulties faced and tough times ahead I sincerely hope this great australian tradition of grass roots footy out in the country continues on for many many years to come and can only hope country clubs and leagues to do what they need to in order to survive regardless of whether thats playing by the rules or not....

[running defender]

Well said old bomber,
Clubs don't fold because they run out of money
They fold because they don't have any players
And the CFL should realise this , it restricts smaller clubs
From being competitive the bigger clubs win again they can bring back zero pointers that leave
And top up with a few quality players and in two or three years
They have a super team salary cap or not.
The fun in football is winning not been restricted to mediocrity

[Look Good In Leather]

Well said old bomber,
Clubs don't fold because they run out of money
They fold because they don't have any players
And the CFL should realise this , it restricts smaller clubs
From being competitive the bigger clubs win again they can bring back zero pointers that leave
And top up with a few quality players and in two or three years
They have a super team salary cap or not.
The fun in football is winning not been restricted to mediocrity

but, but, greedy country clubs, mercenaries, no investment in juniors, payments out of control, no funding for local hospital....

Obviously something has to be done - I know, stopping 6 year olds from playing football should fix it!

Stop being an "agitator"

[oyster]

The end result is that no salary cap rule brought in by the Fantasy Footy boys will work either long or short term. It's not working now and it's got less chance in years to come. Good luck proving and policing who gets paid what. One of the silliest rules I've ever seen and just won't work

[LaughingKookaburra]

Why would clubs come out in the open and say they are going to "carry on as they please" at a public meeting or in general chit chat? Wouldn't you be keeping your mouths shut? If it were true this is what's happening it might not happen straight away, but one day it will catch up with them. Sorry I just find it hard to believe a club who is smart and organised enough to raise such funds for footy can then be stupid enough to put a target on their own back.

[Mythical Creature]

Why would clubs come out in the open and say they are going to "carry on as they please" at a public meeting or in general chit chat? Wouldn't you be keeping your mouths shut? If it were true this is what's happening it might not happen straight away, but one day it will catch up with them. Sorry I just find it hard to believe a club who is smart and organised enough to raise such funds for footy can then be stupid enough to put a target on their own back.

Probably because oyster is full of shit.

[oyster]

Why would clubs come out in the open and say they are going to "carry on as they please" at a public meeting or in general chit chat? Wouldn't you be keeping your mouths shut? If it were true this is what's happening it might not happen straight away, but one day it will catch up with them. Sorry I just find it hard to believe a club who is smart and organised enough to raise such funds for footy can then be stupid enough to put a target on their own back.

Probably because oyster is full of shit.

OK then believe what you want. Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

There was no gathering of some 16 football club people if that makes you feel better. The subject of the salary cap was never discussed at the gathering. Laughing Kookaburra and Mythical Creature you two know all