The 1991 Grand Final

[redden whites]

I will never forget the "crack" that could be heard when Stephen Kernahan wolloped David Wildy in the '85 grand final ....kind of the same ,beaten to a mark and a big swinging fist to the head.Ironically both were square up shots but I sympathized with Wildy as his first shot barely connected but Simpson was playing dirty on Darel Hart big time due to the fact he was getting humiliated .

[Pseudo]

As I said earlier when this post started - I was a 20 rows up directly in front of the Sims one and it was the ugliest thing I have seen live at a footy match

I too was 20 or so rows up directly in front of the Sims incident. It's uncanny how, over the years, many other people have also claimed to have been "right in front of that one". Time for another snap poll, I reckon...

As for "ugliest", I think Anthony Pierri squeezing into a lycra guernsey wins hands down...

[Wedgie]

Hondo, if you stated it earlier in the topic why the need to state it again? Its not like we delete posts after 2 days.

And I wasn't 20 rows directly near it, I was in the front row of the undercover bit in near the old scoreboard at the top (bit that was uncovered next to the scoreboard, same price seating as regular general admission and noone sitting in front of you, always sat there for GFs in the 90s) and I heard it clearly too, I thought he'd killed him!

Ahh well, Westies went out with the intention of roughing up North and it backfired terribly on them both on the field and on the scoreboard.

[redandblack]

It's easy to try and rewrite history.

West certainly didn't go out with the intention of roughing up North, that's just something written after the event to try to partly justify a low act.

The truth is that North were far too good. West certainly tried to square up after half-time and who wouldn't in those circumstances, but that doesn't excuse them doing it as well.

King-hitting someone from behind isn't justifiable in any circumstances on a football field and Sims action can't be excused by rewriting history.

As for the game, North were far superior.

[BPBRB]

It's easy to try and rewrite history.

West certainly didn't go out with the intention of roughing up North, that's just something written after the event to try to partly justify a low act.

The truth is that North were far too good. West certainly tried to square up after half-time and who wouldn't in those circumstances, but that doesn't excuse them doing it as well.

King-hitting someone from behind isn't justifiable in any circumstances on a football field and Sims action can't be excused by rewriting history.

As for the game, North were far superior.

Some points to disagree and agree re your reply:

(1) If you watch the replay it is quite clear what WA's intention were very early on - to take out Hart and the other North on ballers in anyway they could. There had to be some planning and premeditation?

(2) Sims was instructed by Nunan at 1/4 time to deal with Simpson. Sims advised the umpires to watch what Simpson was doing behind the play and in the packs or else. HOWEVER Nunan did not intend for Sims to do what he ultimatley did and it was ugly and nasty.

(3) From that point on West lost their way and after half time clearly lost the plot trying to even up. Sims rightly got a harse penalty but some West players like Fitzsimmons who held Peter Krieg down on the ground centre wing right in front of the benches and punched him 15 times to the head - he got 3 games and given Krieg a very fair ball player you have to wonder how one bloke can get 10 games for 1 king hit yet another player deliberately holds down an innoccent player with one hand, leaning with all his weight over the top and proceeded to throw 15 punches and gets FA!!. The hysteria around the whole game caused the tribunal to over react with one penalty and hardly look at the others as they should have been looked at and penalties dished according to the acts comitted!

(4) All that aside North would have won comfortably if no fights had occured based on the final 75 point margin.

[redandblack]

Some points to agree and disagree as well.

There was no premeditation.

Simpson was a tagger and played the game as fairly as anyone throughout his career. Nothing excuses Sims - all-time cowardly act in SANFL football.

West did lose the plot and tried to even up after half-time.

[Hondo]

Hondo, if you stated it earlier in the topic why the need to state it again? Its not like we delete posts after 2 days.

This thread was dormant for about 10 weeks and then bumped up again so it prompted my memory again once the conversation turned back to that incident, I didn't think to go back and check what I said 3 months ago.

Check the dates of the posts .....

Far out Wedgie why was that so important to point out to everyone?

[Wedgie]

Hondo, if you stated it earlier in the topic why the need to state it again? Its not like we delete posts after 2 days.

This thread was dormant for about 10 weeks and then bumped up again so it prompted my memory again once the conversation turned back to that incident, I didn't think to go back and check what I said 3 months ago.

Check the dates of the posts .....

Far out Wedgie why was that so important to point out to everyone?

Period of time is irrelevent, there's no need to post exactly the same thing in exactly the same topic, fair enough if you make a mistake but when you actually say "As I said earlier" you're obviously aware you've already made the same point, if everyone felt the need to make the same point in topics this whole site would turn into a mess or people might merely keep repeating themselves to get their post count up, we have to clamp down as if we let one or two go it'll soon become a mess, we'd probably let it go through to the keeper if it was a topic that had 15 pages but 2 (as it was that stage) ?

Not a biggy mate. Play on.

[mr o]

i was there in 91, it truly was a low act by sims, after half time, it wasnt about wining the gf any more , we did lose the plot