Australia v Windies - Test series

[whufc]

Shane Warne talking shit.

I thought his made pretty good sense today

[wristwatcher]

Shane Warne talking shit.

I thought his made pretty good sense today

Brayshaw as always claims Gold medal status in that area but Tubby Taylor making a late play talking about Australia will need 108 to avoid the follow on. FFS don't insult the viewers intelligence.

It's amazing that when Kerry O Keefe laughed at his own jokes or statements it was brilliant. Warne and Brayshaw make it sounds like old people f@cking. Just brutal.

[Booney]

If the Windies are just **** arsing us around here I'd get Nevill in at 3, Marsh at 4 and give them a hit. Nevill hasn't batted this series and Marsh has hardly been needed, let them face some centre wicket stuff I reakon.

[wristwatcher]

If the Windies are just **** arsing us around here I'd get Nevill in at 3, Marsh at 4 and give them a hit. Nevill hasn't batted this series and Marsh has hardly been needed, let them face some centre wicket stuff I reakon.

I'd send Marsh in next to play at 20/20 innings. Let's get to 350 ASAP and set these muppets 20

[Mr Beefy]

If the Windies are just **** arsing us around here I'd get Nevill in at 3, Marsh at 4 and give them a hit. Nevill hasn't batted this series and Marsh has hardly been needed, let them face some centre wicket stuff I reakon.

I'd send Marsh in next to play at 20/20 innings. Let's get to 350 ASAP and set these muppets 20

Well Marsh went in and the heavens opened

[Gozu]

Warner brings up his ton

[Dogwatcher]

As they have in the past in London.

[Grahaml]

How quickly those who seem to deride the short forms of the game want to change the long form too. Setting the game up under any circumstances, trying to slog the game away, these are not test ideals. All that was ever going to happen has happened.

Marsh in at 3 was a good plan. Goes in with 100 on the board, no pressure on runs or a result. Just bat. Once again puts up the effort of a number 8, not a number 6. He just simply cannot hold that spot for much longer. In fact, I think this is it. NZ will demand a batsman at 6, not a tail starting there. Perhaps if Nevill was batting well enough to hold that spot Marsh could bat 7, but there's no keeper in the country good enough to allow that luxury. For me, Marsh is competing with the bowlers for a spot.

[mal]

If the Windies are just **** arsing us around here I'd get Nevill in at 3, Marsh at 4 and give them a hit. Nevill hasn't batted this series and Marsh has hardly been needed, let them face some centre wicket stuff I reakon.

Wrongggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
Marsh batted 3
Nevill batted 4

[wristwatcher]

I know Mitch Marsh was the replacement for Watson but FFS it's not illegal to score runs champ.

[mal]

WI 330
AU 2/176
David Warner 122 not out off only 103 balls
Game called off with an hour to go
If no more delays, or bad light
One hour = maybe about 15-18 overs [depending if spin was used]
Thats maybe about 90-108 balls
Warner to face maybe 50 balls

QUESTIONS
Could he have made 200 if they played the extra time ?
If Warner was about 90 not out with an hour to go , would Australia have played on ?

[wristwatcher]

WI 330
AU 2/176
David Warner 122 not out off only 103 balls
Game called off with an hour to go
If no more delays, or bad light
One hour = maybe about 15-18 overs [depending if spin was used]
Thats maybe about 90-108 balls
Warner to face maybe 50 balls

QUESTIONS
Could he have made 200 if they played the extra time ?
If Warner was about 90 not out with an hour to go , would Australia have played on ?

Probably the most frustrating test match in years to cap off the most anti-climactic series in decades. Time to move on Mal.

The series across the ditch Should be a belter.

[gadj1976]

If the Windies are just **** arsing us around here I'd get Nevill in at 3, Marsh at 4 and give them a hit. Nevill hasn't batted this series and Marsh has hardly been needed, let them face some centre wicket stuff I reakon.

Having "a net" would be more beneficial than some of that centre wicket stuff I saw this afternoon. Absolute tripe.

[Grenville]

How quickly those who seem to deride the short forms of the game want to change the long form too. Setting the game up under any circumstances, trying to slog the game away, these are not test ideals. All that was ever going to happen has happened.

Well put sir.

[Rik E Boy]

How quickly those who seem to deride the short forms of the game want to change the long form too. Setting the game up under any circumstances, trying to slog the game away, these are not test ideals. All that was ever going to happen has happened.

Marsh in at 3 was a good plan. Goes in with 100 on the board, no pressure on runs or a result. Just bat. Once again puts up the effort of a number 8, not a number 6. He just simply cannot hold that spot for much longer. In fact, I think this is it. NZ will demand a batsman at 6, not a tail starting there. Perhaps if Nevill was batting well enough to hold that spot Marsh could bat 7, but there's no keeper in the country good enough to allow that luxury. For me, Marsh is competing with the bowlers for a spot.

Interesting point Graham. On the way the game finished I thought that the West Indies' development as a side would be further enhanced trying to win the game than just bowling at nothing as it turned out in the end. I don't think that should have thrown the game away but the captain should have shown some belief and tried to go for the unlikely result.

I'm not sure that the immediate double declaration was the key though. Australia have been racking up 400 a day against the West Indies this summer so I would have maybe had a hit and added another 50-60 to chase before declaring. An immediate double declaration would have been far too generous considering the lack of effectiveness of the West indian bowling. Declarations work best when the target appears to be just out of reach, that way you maximise your chances of taking wickets.

If things went a bit pear shaped you could still employ more defensive tactics that would be foreign to limited over cricket so I don't believe that setting the game up and slogging away are not necessary test ideals. There are different game conditions which means a shorter innings doesn't necessarily equate to one day cricket or teeball.

regards,

REB

[whufc]

How quickly those who seem to deride the short forms of the game want to change the long form too. Setting the game up under any circumstances, trying to slog the game away, these are not test ideals. All that was ever going to happen has happened.

Marsh in at 3 was a good plan. Goes in with 100 on the board, no pressure on runs or a result. Just bat. Once again puts up the effort of a number 8, not a number 6. He just simply cannot hold that spot for much longer. In fact, I think this is it. NZ will demand a batsman at 6, not a tail starting there. Perhaps if Nevill was batting well enough to hold that spot Marsh could bat 7, but there's no keeper in the country good enough to allow that luxury. For me, Marsh is competing with the bowlers for a spot.

Interesting point Graham. On the way the game finished I thought that the West Indies' development as a side would be further enhanced trying to win the game than just bowling at nothing as it turned out in the end. I don't think that should have thrown the game away but the captain should have shown some belief and tried to go for the unlikely result.

I'm not sure that the immediate double declaration was the key though. Australia have been racking up 400 a day against the West Indies this summer so I would have maybe had a hit and added another 50-60 to chase before declaring. An immediate double declaration would have been far too generous considering the lack of effectiveness of the West indian bowling. Declarations work best when the target appears to be just out of reach, that way you maximise your chances of taking wickets.

If things went a bit pear shaped you could still employ more defensive tactics that would be foreign to limited over cricket so I don't believe that setting the game up and slogging away are not necessary test ideals. There are different game conditions which means a shorter innings doesn't necessarily equate to one day cricket or teeball.

regards,

REB

Not sure what my opinion is on whether it is the right thing or wrong thing to do by setting up a result.

One thing is certain though, the windies don't get many chance to win test matches these days never mind in Oz, as you said there development as a side and as individual players who have been advanced a million times over by setting that game up and playing some pressure, result on the line test cricket.

[FlyingHigh]

Captains getting together to both declare at 0/0 or bugger all for effectively a one-innings test is contriving a result, as compared to sporting declarations, such as if the WIndies declared at 6/290 on the fourth morning if two days play were possible, which then puts it back in the oppositions court of how they approach the rest of the game.

[carey]

Shane Warne talking shit.

What's new??

[whufc]

Shane Warne talking shit.

What's new??

I thought he made sense, he was saying the windies development would have been better off buy trying to force a result and the other one was saying how they should have not had lunch after an 1hour 40min session after have 3 days off.

[stan]

Just looking at the big bash and the west indies players that could possibly make an impact for there test side. And really Im more convinced that the majority of there test side is there best 11.

Gayle I think is shot at the moment. Although looks good for a short period of time just looks un fit with back issues. Was starting to look a bit stiff last night.

Dwayne Bravo can still bat but his bowling looked a bit pedestrian at times.

The ok one who may have made an impact is Russell. Now I know hes a slogger as such but can hold a bat for sure but there is a bit about his bowling. I must admit I haven't seen enough of him but seems like a type that could bowl some fiery spells.

Just a thought I guess.