Why Woodville in 1964

[Fluffbag]

As I am going to watch Modbury play Gaza this weekend in the semis, I was wondering why in 1964, Woodville entered the competition when I thought it seems to make more sense for a team in the north east suburbs.

Was that considered at the time? Would a Modbury team have been more successful than Woodville?

I remember growing up in Holden Hill and playing for Torrens in the mini league which seemed strange to represent a team on the other side of town.

[GWW]

I had heard it was to lessen Port's success.

[heater31]

Didn't they also want to even up the bye when the push for Central District was on? Maybe they thought 1 team out Far North Suburbia was enough?

[RB]

Because they wanted to screw Torrens over.

[robranisgod]

As I am going to watch Modbury play Gaza this weekend in the semis, I was wondering why in 1964, Woodville entered the competition when I thought it seems to make more sense for a team in the north east suburbs.

Was that considered at the time? Would a Modbury team have been more successful than Woodville?

I remember growing up in Holden Hill and playing for Torrens in the mini league which seemed strange to represent a team on the other side of town.

There were a number of reasons given. Woodville was the biggest local council. Woodville had a district cricket side and there was always the rumour that it was to weaken Port.

Remember the other alternative was to keep an 8 team comp, but to replace South Adelaide with Central District. This was defeated by the casting vote of the league president.

Modbury and Tea Tree Gully were still country towns in 1964 but prominent North Adelaide and national football administrator Jack Forrester was a strong proponent of either North moving out that way or another team being placed in that area.

North were probably screwed by Woodville and Central's introduction as much as Torrens. North lost Kilburn to Woodville and area like Pooraka and Para Hills to Central initially and then Port. By the 1970s North had half the population in their area as all of the other clubs.

[bennymacca]

Probably an ageing population in North Adelaide's zone too (though that may have changed in recent years)

[Dogwatcher]

Probably an ageing population in North Adelaide's zone too (though that may have changed in recent years)

Given many of the young people back then were young Baby Boomers, I'd reckon that's unlikely an issue.

[holden78]

Torrens got shafted big time by the sanfl and the moron clubs that voted to bring woodville in ,thats why i dont recognise any premiership between 1964 till Torrens got their district back

[therisingblues]

I thought that zoning was done so that each club had access to roughly the same number of able bodied young people?
It would be interesting to see how the boundary zones changed before and after 1964, and which clubs lost the most territory. Had there not been a Central District, North would have become a massive powerhouse, surely?

[robranisgod]

I thought that zoning was done so that each club had access to roughly the same number of able bodied young people?
It would be interesting to see how the boundary zones changed before and after 1964, and which clubs lost the most territory. Had there not been a Central District, North would have become a massive powerhouse, surely?

You are right but somehow the league stuffed up badly in their 1959 and early 1970s boundaries allocations. As I said, by the late 1970s North had half the young male population of the other clubs. It was only redressed in 1983.

Central were always going to come in. It was simply whether to keep the league at 8 teams by dropping South and bringing in Central or bringing in Central or Woodville.

[Dogwatcher]

You are right but somehow the league stuffed up badly in their 1959 and early 1970s boundaries allocations. As I said, by the late 1970s North had half the young male population of the other clubs. It was only redressed in 1983.

So did North's zoning worries come in from 1959? Or did it change in the late 60s and into the 70s and the housing subdivisions starting sprouting up further north and north east?

As I posted, below, when Benny discussed North's ageing population, I'd have thought it wasn't a problem initially due to the Baby Boomer generation and the fact those housing subdivisions hadn't really kicked into gear yet.

Probably an ageing population in North Adelaide's zone too (though that may have changed in recent years)

Given many of the young people back then were young Baby Boomers, I'd reckon that's unlikely an issue.

[robranisgod]

So did North's zoning worries come in from 1959? Or did it change in the late 60s and into the 70s and the housing subdivisions starting sprouting up further north and north east?

It started in the 1959 redistribution when areas such as Kilburn were given to Woodville and everywhere from Pooraka north were given to Central. Then in the next redistribution in the early 1970s (when North incidentally were reigning premiers) they lost areas such as Valley View through to Holden Hill to West Torrens thus leaving North "land-locked" with no growing area and Pooraka/Ingle Farm became part of Port's area. The next redistribution in 1983 redressed this problem.

[therisingblues]

Interesting that some Port fans like to trot out the story that Woodville was invented to hobble the Magpies, yet the zoning policies at the time were geared towards an even distribution of population to each team's zone, and if anything they benefited from an oversight which awarded them extra area from North.

[Dog_ger2]

I had heard it was to lessen Port's success.

Yes it was to de-value or try to de-value the mighty magpie.

Some said it was other teams passing the cemetery, visiting alberton.

Woodville SANFL was to even up the competition..

Such was the power of "FOS"

Maybe he should have a statue at "Adelaide Oval".

Or a bridge named after him.

[Spargo]

I had heard it was to lessen Port's success.

Yes it was to de-value or try to de-value the mighty magpie.

Some said it was other teams passing the cemetery, visiting alberton.

Woodville SANFL was to even up the competition..

Such was the power of "FOS"

Maybe he should have a statue at "Adelaide Oval".

Or a bridge named after him.

How the hell do you post this crap with that straight jacket on?

[Dog_ger2]

I had heard it was to lessen Port's success.

Yes it was to de-value or try to de-value the mighty magpie.

Some said it was other teams passing the cemetery, visiting alberton.

Woodville SANFL was to even up the competition..

Such was the power of "FOS"

Maybe he should have a statue at "Adelaide Oval".

Or a bridge named after him.

How the hell do you post this crap with that straight jacket on?

Maybe you need help Mate...

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