Ch9 AFL Division 4 - 2015

[Cohiba]

Only"if" they have umpired well......n' cest pas TJ. You don't reward mediocrity.....

Good umpiring is usually a matter of opinion. The losing team usually thinks the umpiring was shit.

If you only shake the umps hand when you think he umpired well, you should probably not shake half the players hands, coz i guarantee they made a shitload more mistakes over the 4 qtrs than the umpire did.

Respect them for what they do. They allow us to play the game.

The point was about umpires.......not players performances.....That said, based on your comment, if players mistakes are often attributed to the outcome of matches.....the same can be said of umpires........Your notion players making a "shitload" of mistakes is a bit lop sided. Your comparing the potential of 21 players making mistakes as opposed to one or two umpires....If the comparison was one on one....I'd be questioning your ability to guarantee anything on this point........

I'll always give due deference to umpires for what they do, good or otherwise....can't have a game without them...no argument.

As for respect...in my book.... got to be earned ... Based on thoughts in this forum alone and on personal observations, it could be said there is more than one "tool" running around with a whistle in his mouth, particularly at Club level depending on your point of view. It is what it is.....Nowadays, the Tribunal sees that they are more than reasonably insulated from the type of abuse and scrutiny levelled at them in the past on both sides of the fence.

To quote the League "they are sacrosanct" (notwithstanding their level of competence and bias).

So let's not get to precious when I stated IMO....."you don't reward mediocrity" even though you seem happy to do so.

The role/position should be respected
Your comment is fair for an individual, but the position should be respected

I agree....I think you will find I said that in another post........

[Cohiba]

Should I not shake an opponent's hand if they're shit?

Again Jo....the topic was umpires....not players....

[wonder_kid]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

[Cohiba]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

Well your entitled to an opinion wonder_ < edited: really? you should know better> tell me ...on what basis are sure the penalty would be less....?

[Boosh]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

Have we? I would love a survey on that.

[Footy Chick]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

Have we? I would love a survey on that.

Not an apple, but I lost one eating corn...does that count?

[Footy Chick]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

Wow, the newbie comes out firing. You're either

a) a massive troll
b) completely delusional
c) Just clueless

Lets have a survey on that instead.

[Q.]

I lost a tooth once because someone recklessly collided with me.

[Footy Chick]

I lost a tooth once because someone recklessly collided with me.

Did you shake their hand after the match?

[Q.]

I lost a tooth once because someone recklessly collided with me.

Did you shake their hand after the match?

only because they played well

[wonder_kid]

Not a troll just stating the penalty in the afl compared to the saafl!

[wonder_kid]

Its funny that someone has an opinion you dont agree with and hes a troll ! Im.very opinionated so be ready to deal with that...

[wonder_kid]

afl players for reckless contact with an umpire get a $2600 fine no suspension at all ! big gap in penalties if you ask me prob deserves a week or 2 but not 12 ! if they couldn't prove deliberate then reckless is fine which shouldn't incur a 12 game penalty! the umpire losing a tooth shouldn't be part of it really we all have lost a tooth eating an apple which isn't much force at all! my opinion ill stick with it wonder what would have happened if it was a scholar team player im sure the penalty would have been less!

Well your entitled to an opinion wonder_ < edited: really? you should know better> tell me ...on what basis are sure the penalty would be less....?

The last comment was frustration of playing for a northern suburb club and watching in some cases alot.of injustice ! Its perceived that the nthn burbs clibs get treated differently that is all

[Footy Chick]

Its funny that someone has an opinion you dont agree with and hes a troll ! Im.very opinionated so be ready to deal with that...

You have 20 posts to your name. Very interesting observation to make in such a short time.

Go and look up the definition of troll in the rules. You are a troll if you post wholly and solely to get a reaction or start arguments. It's not about what I agree with or don't agree with. If I moderated everything I don't agree with on this forum we'd have not much left.

[Yank Man]

Its funny that someone has an opinion you dont agree with and hes a troll ! Im.very opinionated so be ready to deal with that...

You have 20 posts to your name. Very interesting observation to make in such a short time.

Go and look up the definition of troll in the rules. You are a troll if you post wholly and solely to get a reaction or start arguments. It's not about what I agree with or don't agree with. If I moderated everything I don't agree with on this forum we'd have not much left.

Troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

[wonder_kid]

Then I guess 90% of ppl are trolls then! Been following the forums for years jusy started posting to have an opinion but I guess that's not allowed! Its called wanting a discussion not an argument

[Footy Chick]

I just think its hilarious that you dont object to being referred to stupid or clueless, just dont call the newbie a troll.

Now can we please get back to some sensible D4 talk.

End of argument.

Thanks

[youngblood]

Some interesting results yesterday, looks like it will be a fairly even competition this year. Salisbury and north haven play next week, be good for either team to go clear top of the table early.

[Footy Chick]

Salisburys scorelines look really impressive thus far, I haven't looked at ins and outs, has the team changed much from last year @Pag?

[wonder_kid]

I was at the nth haven v kookas game was very well contested the way nth haven move the footy is very sailsbury west like we had to slow them down to be able to be in the game. Very hard place to win at having alot of players that have played together for a.long time was the difference a bit more . polish as well won them the game! They will be around the mark for sure. A definite improvement for the kookas they will only get better as the season goesmon good signs.

b grade was also a good game to watch with nth havens goal kicking the differencd in the game