Marty Mattner

[carey18]

To burn the ball you have to get the ball which he has done a lot this season. Think it is very poor to drop him this week when he didnt have the chance to go back to the sanfl and get some form. From what i believe he was a emergancy and had to go and warm up and think he was playing in case some one didnt pull up.

[Hondo]

Hondo

Of course he does and so do some of his mates.

I feel that he is very unlucky to be made the scape goat for the side when others do the same thing !!!

Fair enough

Who would you have chopped before him?

[Dutchy]

average 74 ppg at home when you are one of the contenders for the flag and you are going to get criticised, surely that is fair? especially when their own members arent happy with that

its a discussion point surely, thats what this is for, or do we try to sanitise this site like are trying to do with a certain reporter in town?....

FWIW Hinge played great today for the Bays and would be ahead of DOuglas on todays performance

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy

I do not disagree, yes most left footers don't have a right side, however, if you want to compare Marty to Goody than you need to consider

1. How often does Simon burn the footy, how often does Simon run himself in to trouble, how often does Simon make poor decisions.

In your assessment, Marty has lost form because he is playing out of position, in my assessment, before we can even consider Marty playing up the ground, he needs to lift the eyes instead of running flat out with his head down and he need to improve his execution

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Mattner, but time after time his execution is poor even when he is under no pressure, yes other players are guilty of burning the footy, but unfortunately with Marty his % of effective disposals is too low

In regards to Dal Santo, mate, just watch the number of times he starts outside of the square, he plays more on the wing than a true midfield position

[sydney-dog]

Dutchy

Maybe if our home ground had a roof over the top we might average more pts per game at home

In regards to Hinge and Douglas

The only possible opening this week is to replace Proplyzia, given he plays a small forward / midfield role, I would think Douglas would be the front runner, especially after his 7 goal effort in the previous round

My understanding is Douglas had 25+ touches today, so is form can't be too bad

[Blue Boy]

Blue Boy

I do not disagree, yes most left footers don't have a right side, however, if you want to compare Marty to Goody than you need to consider

1. How often does Simon burn the footy, how often does Simon run himself in to trouble, how often does Simon make poor decisions.

The only comparison made between the 2 is that they are left footers with no right leg conversion - yet goodwin has improved his slightly after 10 years @ elite level !!!

[Blue Boy]

Hondo

Of course he does and so do some of his mates.

I feel that he is very unlucky to be made the scape goat for the side when others do the same thing !!!

Fair enough

Who would you have chopped before him?

I would say Dougthy for me !!!

[Tight_Lines]

Marty Mattner takes on too many people on. When I actually watch the Crows everytime he gets the ball we call that he will take on someone (Or 5) Then he is forced to make a bad decision turns it over and puts a team-mate under pressure. Cost the team more then he is worth and will struggle to find a spot back in the side.

[Tight_Lines]

To burn the ball you have to get the ball which he has done a lot this season. Think it is very poor to drop him this week when he didnt have the chance to go back to the sanfl and get some form. From what i believe he was a emergancy and had to go and warm up and think he was playing in case some one didnt pull up.

I think that the Crows main concern would had been beating The hawks which they did. If he is costing a side why keep playing him?? I guarntee Sturts draw never came to consideration in their decision there are more important things to worry about then wheither Mattner will play in the SANFL that week then a bye.

[scoob]

Come on Dutchy... thought you would have learnt by now you cannot criticise the crows on this forum... They are the best defensive side, a great running attacking side and a great team to watch.

[Hondo]

Balanced and fair criticism is OK

Unbalanced or unfair - then be prepared for some heat

Either way - big statements are always challenged and justified, same as for any other team

If I re-worded some of the Crows sniping this year, replaced the word 'Crows' with another team I wonder what sort of responses I'd get - I have been tempted to try a few times.

All good fun banter tho, Dutchy loves it

[Dutchy]

In regards to Hinge and Douglas

The only possible opening this week is to replace Proplyzia, given he plays a small forward / midfield role, I would think Douglas would be the front runner, especially after his 7 goal effort in the previous round

My understanding is Douglas had 25+ touches today, so is form can't be too bad

From the official Glenelg FC stats Hinge had 20 touches and Douglas 19, Sellar 3

Hinge was way more effective though and if I was the Crows I would be putting him in first, he is bubbling with confidence, Douglas played loose man across half back for some of the game so many of his touches were easy rebounding kicks

Wouldnt suprise if Sellar goes back to the 2's with them winning again on the weekend

[sydney-dog]

Dutchy

I listen to the game via the Web, the commentary team advised half way through the last Douglas had 25 touches to that point....

In regards to Sellar, they said he did not see much game time, was this because of the conditions?

[Dutchy]

Stats seem to go all over the place but with Ecky on the GFC stats team Id trust theirs...the advertiser had Hinge on 22 and Dougy on 20...



cant remember seeing much of Sellar, must have been on the bench, conditions were fine apart from the cricket pitch

[carey18]

To burn the ball you have to get the ball which he has done a lot this season. Think it is very poor to drop him this week when he didnt have the chance to go back to the sanfl and get some form. From what i believe he was a emergancy and had to go and warm up and think he was playing in case some one didnt pull up.

I think that the Crows main concern would had been beating The hawks which they did. If he is costing a side why keep playing him?? I guarntee Sturts draw never came to consideration in their decision there are more important things to worry about then wheither Mattner will play in the SANFL that week then a bye.

Yeah i guess you are right. Y would they ever worry about the guys mindest. The players are just a peice of meat arnt they.

[Psyber]

Come on Dutchy... thought you would have learnt by now you cannot criticise the crows on this forum... They are the best defensive side, a great running attacking side and a great team to watch.

And loyal to the SANFL, unlike the other team at one time.

[scoob]

Come on Dutchy... thought you would have learnt by now you cannot criticise the crows on this forum... They are the best defensive side, a great running attacking side and a great team to watch.

And loyal to the SANFL, unlike the other team at one time.

Yeah and that too!!!!

[silicone skyline]

We haven't seen the last of Mattner.
I rate him the best tackler in the squad, along with bode.
Mattner's work rate to chase and tackle far outweighs many players, mind you, i don't particularly pride players on work rate, otherwise i would like Ian Perrie.
I like Mattner's raking left foot, his ability to burn off players, and his strong over head grabs.
I don't think he's played too badly, he just hasn't shone overly.
Poor bloke.

[Dutchy]

yeah must be tough making $200k p.a. doing something he loves

[Hondo]

We are acting like he died

If he's good enough he'll bounce back - and I think he is