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valleys07 wrote:Travis Varcoe to West Coast gaining momentum...


God No. Why, oh why? X_X :-Q
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Red Rocket wrote:Take your Port glasses off and tell me what do you think Ryder is worth honestly.
Hartlett I agree is a laughable proposition but considering Ryder will be in the top 5 money earners at Port surely he is worth a decent player.
To me pick 16(now 17) doesnt cut it as would pick 17 and a dud like Butcher. I think if Essendon got pick 17 plus a half decent player like Neade or Moore they would take it. I did hear them mention on SEN that two picks in the top 20 would also be acceptable, this obviously would need more clubs involved.


Rocket- lets look at things in scale for a second. Ryder is a top 10 pick, and is an important makeup of Essendon’s side, so yes, he wont come cheap. In my opinion, he is worth pick 17.

Ryder is 27 at the start of next season. Potentially he has a good 5 seasons left in the game. Lets not forget, that in Ryder’s tenure at Essendon, he has not finished top 3 in their Best & Fairest, and has not come close to AA selection. We are talking an important cog in a team, not a star of the competition.

With a potential ASADA sanction hanging over his head, if Essendon nail pick 17, they have a 12 year player in their squad. Huge win to Essendon long term. Conversely if they balls pick 17, then the trade becomes a clear win to Port in the short term, but no club wins in the long run, if Port fail to win a flag in their window. Precisely the reason Ryder is being targeted.

At the end of the day, if Cripps/Hinkley feel that a fringe player like a Moore, O/Shea, who declares a want to return to Victoria, is what it will take to get the deal across the line- then I have no problems including that player in the deal. Still a win to the Bombers in my opinion long term- but the blow will be softened if we win a flag between 15-17.

To suggest Wingard, Wines or Hartlett on top of our first pick, is an absolute insult to Port Adelaide, and is a pitiful attempt to cover an exodus, to fix a problem which was created by themselves.
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Red Rocket wrote:Take your Port glasses off and tell me what do you think Ryder is worth honestly.
Hartlett I agree is a laughable proposition but considering Ryder will be in the top 5 money earners at Port surely he is worth a decent player.
To me pick 16(now 17) doesnt cut it as would pick 17 and a dud like Butcher. I think if Essendon got pick 17 plus a half decent player like Neade or Moore they would take it. I did hear them mention on SEN that two picks in the top 20 would also be acceptable, this obviously would need more clubs involved.


Rocket- lets look at things in scale for a second. Ryder is a top 10 pick, and is an important makeup of Essendon’s side, so yes, he wont come cheap. In my opinion, he is worth pick 17.

Ryder is 27 at the start of next season. Potentially he has a good 5 seasons left in the game. Lets not forget, that in Ryder’s tenure at Essendon, he has not finished top 3 in their Best & Fairest, and has not come close to AA selection. We are talking an important cog in a team, not a star of the competition.

With a potential ASADA sanction hanging over his head, if Essendon nail pick 17, they have a 12 year player in their squad. Huge win to Essendon long term. Conversely if they balls pick 17, then the trade becomes a clear win to Port in the short term, but no club wins in the long run, if Port fail to win a flag in their window. Precisely the reason Ryder is being targeted.

At the end of the day, if Cripps/Hinkley feel that a fringe player like a Moore, O/Shea, who declares a want to return to Victoria, is what it will take to get the deal across the line- then I have no problems including that player in the deal. Still a win to the Bombers in my opinion long term- but the blow will be softened if we win a flag between 15-17.

To suggest Wingard, Wines or Hartlett on top of our first pick, is an absolute insult to Port Adelaide, and is a pitiful attempt to cover an exodus, to fix a problem, which was created by themselves.



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CoverKing wrote:Outside run for your mob is needed


No we need quick outside skilful midfielders not a half forward flank who drifts in and out and in and out of games. We have Josh Hill for that.
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valleys07 wrote:Travis Varcoe to West Coast gaining momentum...


God No. Why, oh why? X_X :-Q


Where are you getting this momentum from?
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Frawley is an absolute star of the game. A rock star, actually.
Definitely up there in comparison to Buddy Franklin, I can see where WUB is coming from.
All he wants is the fair WUB of the green when you blokes are bagging Sydney.
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Pup wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Travis Varcoe to West Coast gaining momentum...


God No. Why, oh why? X_X :-Q


Where are you getting this momentum from?


Trade winds on FB, and from other forums.

Could be BS Pup- just posting what im reading/hearing.
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Phillip Walsh signed with Cows as head coach.
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valleys07 wrote:
Pup wrote:
helicopterking wrote:
valleys07 wrote:Travis Varcoe to West Coast gaining momentum...


God No. Why, oh why? X_X :-Q


Where are you getting this momentum from?


Trade winds on FB, and from other forums.

Could be BS Pup- just posting what im reading/hearing.


Yeah i wasn't having a go at you just curious. Saw some yesterday but was hoping it was going cool off.
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carey wrote:Phillip Walsh signed with Cows as head coach.


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Dogwatcher wrote:Frawley is an absolute star of the game. A rock star, actually.
Definitely up there in comparison to Buddy Franklin, I can see where WUB is coming from.
All he wants is the fair WUB of the green when you blokes are bagging Sydney.

frawley pick 3. Franklin pick 16. With the compensation. As I stated people bagged the swans for r getting franklin after off loading 8 players.

Not comparing the 2 at all... Franklin can actually play.
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valleys07 wrote:
Red Rocket wrote:Take your Port glasses off and tell me what do you think Ryder is worth honestly.
Hartlett I agree is a laughable proposition but considering Ryder will be in the top 5 money earners at Port surely he is worth a decent player.
To me pick 16(now 17) doesnt cut it as would pick 17 and a dud like Butcher. I think if Essendon got pick 17 plus a half decent player like Neade or Moore they would take it. I did hear them mention on SEN that two picks in the top 20 would also be acceptable, this obviously would need more clubs involved.


Rocket- lets look at things in scale for a second. Ryder is a top 10 pick, and is an important makeup of Essendon’s side, so yes, he wont come cheap. In my opinion, he is worth pick 17.

Ryder is 27 at the start of next season. Potentially he has a good 5 seasons left in the game. Lets not forget, that in Ryder’s tenure at Essendon, he has not finished top 3 in their Best & Fairest, and has not come close to AA selection. We are talking an important cog in a team, not a star of the competition.

With a potential ASADA sanction hanging over his head, if Essendon nail pick 17, they have a 12 year player in their squad. Huge win to Essendon long term. Conversely if they balls pick 17, then the trade becomes a clear win to Port in the short term, but no club wins in the long run, if Port fail to win a flag in their window. Precisely the reason Ryder is being targeted.

At the end of the day, if Cripps/Hinkley feel that a fringe player like a Moore, O/Shea, who declares a want to return to Victoria, is what it will take to get the deal across the line- then I have no problems including that player in the deal. Still a win to the Bombers in my opinion long term- but the blow will be softened if we win a flag between 15-17.

To suggest Wingard, Wines or Hartlett on top of our first pick, is an absolute insult to Port Adelaide, and is a pitiful attempt to cover an exodus, to fix a problem which was created by themselves.

I havnt seen us ask for Hartlett on top of a pick, think Rucci made that up.
Have never heard us even mention Hartlett.
I agree though its a ridiculous request if true.
Pick 17 alone wont get it done, will need other clubs involved
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Pup wrote:
CoverKing wrote:Outside run for your mob is needed


No we need quick outside skilful midfielders not a half forward flank who drifts in and out and in and out of games. We have Josh Hill for that.


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Sydneys Shane Biggs has aked to be traded back to Melbourne, i guess with the 3 1st round pick players Sydney were gifted by the AFL today he doesnt see much of a future there
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daysofourlives wrote:Sydneys Shane Biggs has aked to be traded back to Melbourne, i guess with the 3 1st round pick players Sydney were gifted by the AFL today he doesnt see much of a future there

Average footballer. No real lose. Also fair chance won't be traded too
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daysofourlives wrote:Sydneys Shane Biggs has aked to be traded back to Melbourne, i guess with the 3 1st round pick players Sydney were gifted by the AFL today he doesnt see much of a future there

Average footballer. No real lose


Jumped off him pretty quickly
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woodublieve12 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Sydneys Shane Biggs has aked to be traded back to Melbourne, i guess with the 3 1st round pick players Sydney were gifted by the AFL today he doesnt see much of a future there

Average footballer. No real lose


Jumped off him pretty quickly

Never jumped on him.
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woodublieve12 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Sydneys Shane Biggs has aked to be traded back to Melbourne, i guess with the 3 1st round pick players Sydney were gifted by the AFL today he doesnt see much of a future there

Average footballer. No real lose. Also fair chance won't be traded too


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