by stan » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:10 am
by the joker » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:47 am
by stan » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:00 am
the joker wrote:Under the old rules it was under 4 wins in two years they will finish with 5. But not one wooden spoon GWS will probably trade melbourne for it and have picks 3 and 4 anyway
by JK » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:42 am
by valleys07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:42 am
by dedja » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:53 am
by JK » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:16 pm
valleys07 wrote:Would sh*t me if they are awarded it.
Clubs such as Hawthorn and Port (im sure there have been others that I have omitted), have been made to re-build their lists from the bottom up, with no priority picks. In ports circumstance, were made to re-build in the middle of a compromised draft.
This mob have had more than enough top end picks to generate a substantial rebuild, and astute drafting and Melbourne certainly do not belong in the same sentence, not to mention the fact one can argue, that development of the talent they do have is hardly worth promoting.
Make them re-build like every other club has to. If you bugger up your selections- live by the sword, die by the sword.
by Booney » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:34 pm
JK wrote:valleys07 wrote:Would sh*t me if they are awarded it.
Clubs such as Hawthorn and Port (im sure there have been others that I have omitted), have been made to re-build their lists from the bottom up, with no priority picks. In ports circumstance, were made to re-build in the middle of a compromised draft.
This mob have had more than enough top end picks to generate a substantial rebuild, and astute drafting and Melbourne certainly do not belong in the same sentence, not to mention the fact one can argue, that development of the talent they do have is hardly worth promoting.
Make them re-build like every other club has to. If you bugger up your selections- live by the sword, die by the sword.
Didn't the Hawks grab one of Roughead or Buddy via a priority pick?
by Booney » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:39 pm
by valleys07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:40 pm
JK wrote:valleys07 wrote:Would sh*t me if they are awarded it.
Clubs such as Hawthorn and Port (im sure there have been others that I have omitted), have been made to re-build their lists from the bottom up, with no priority picks. In ports circumstance, were made to re-build in the middle of a compromised draft.
This mob have had more than enough top end picks to generate a substantial rebuild, and astute drafting and Melbourne certainly do not belong in the same sentence, not to mention the fact one can argue, that development of the talent they do have is hardly worth promoting.
Make them re-build like every other club has to. If you bugger up your selections- live by the sword, die by the sword.
Didn't the Hawks grab one of Roughead or Buddy via a priority pick?
by JK » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:45 pm
by Booney » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:48 pm
by valleys07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:50 pm
JK wrote:Are priority picks back on the board because the AFL privately have concerns that Free Agency only benefits the better clubs whilst potentially being detrimental to the cellar dwellers?
by valleys07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:52 pm
Booney wrote:Priority picks :
2000 - Nick Reiwoldt
2001 - Luke Hodge, Luke Ball, Chris Judd
2002 - None
2003 - Adam Cooney, Andrew Walker, Colin Sylvia
2004 - Brett Deledio, Jarryd Roughead, Ryan Griffen
2005 - Marc Murphy, Dale Thomas, Xavier Ellis
2006 - None
2007 - Matthew Kreuzer
2008 - None
2009 - Tom Scully
Fully compromised from here with GC and GWS coming in.
by Rik E Boy » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:53 pm
by JK » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:05 pm
valleys07 wrote:JK wrote:Are priority picks back on the board because the AFL privately have concerns that Free Agency only benefits the better clubs whilst potentially being detrimental to the cellar dwellers?
How does the priority pick assist them then?
Say a Darcy Moore was on the table and Melbourne took him with their priority pick, where he may have gone to a GWS without that pick in place. If Melbourne develop him into a starin the making at 21, what is to stop Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon, Sydney etc, swooping in with their cheque book, offer him a 6-7 year deal @ 800k a season, leaving Melbourne in no better position?
by valleys07 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:11 pm
JK wrote:valleys07 wrote:JK wrote:Are priority picks back on the board because the AFL privately have concerns that Free Agency only benefits the better clubs whilst potentially being detrimental to the cellar dwellers?
How does the priority pick assist them then?
Say a Darcy Moore was on the table and Melbourne took him with their priority pick, where he may have gone to a GWS without that pick in place. If Melbourne develop him into a starin the making at 21, what is to stop Collingwood, Hawthorn, Essendon, Sydney etc, swooping in with their cheque book, offer him a 6-7 year deal @ 800k a season, leaving Melbourne in no better position?
From memory he would need to be in the system longer than that to become a FA. The thinking is probably that a young gun is still most likely to spend a minimum of 6 years (or whatever the qualifying period is) with the club and possibly much longer should they become more successful over that time. The successful clubs are the only ones that are ever going to pick up a bonefide star, meaning the lesser clubs likely get further depleted. Buddy for example could have been offered $1.5mil a year to go to Melb but there's next to chance he would take that deal. Between FA, fixturing, inquitable salary cap/living allowances, it's a difficult task for a club that' seriously rock-bottom, to rebuild. Sure some clubs have managed it, but Melbourne clearly isn't one of them. As REB has said, the existence of the club is possibly at stake here.
by Booney » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:17 pm
valleys07 wrote:Booney wrote:Priority picks :
2000 - Nick Reiwoldt
2001 - Luke Hodge, Luke Ball, Chris Judd
2002 - None
2003 - Adam Cooney, Andrew Walker, Colin Sylvia
2004 - Brett Deledio, Jarryd Roughead, Ryan Griffen
2005 - Marc Murphy, Dale Thomas, Xavier Ellis
2006 - None
2007 - Matthew Kreuzer
2008 - None
2009 - Tom Scully
Fully compromised from here with GC and GWS coming in.
So a few were handed out in the 2000's!
Why was the rule changed post 2009?
by GWW » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:01 pm
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