carey wrote: I made it clear to the playing group if I heard one bloke blame anything else but them/ourselves I'd punch who ever said it straight in the mouth. Love the time keeper or hate him he does it week in week out for the love of the club. Volenters are extremily hard to come by.
I actually heard those exact words coming from Careys mouth after the game and was quite impressed. Was a weird feeling after the game, I must admit. Don't know if anyone else realised but the second quarter went over by about 4 1/2 minutes. I then jokingly said to our manager " I wonder if they actually do time off/time on or just blow the siren at somewhere around the 28 minute mark"
i was about 2 minutes from posting that shot as well! i think the mud and wet may have contributed to the smaller winning margin PG..and how many of the 6 behinds were rushed?
carey wrote: I made it clear to the playing group if I heard one bloke blame anything else but them/ourselves I'd punch who ever said it straight in the mouth. Love the time keeper or hate him he does it week in week out for the love of the club. Volenters are extremily hard to come by.
I actually heard those exact words coming from Careys mouth after the game and was quite impressed. Was a weird feeling after the game, I must admit. Don't know if anyone else realised but the second quarter went over by about 4 1/2 minutes. I then jokingly said to our manager " I wonder if they actually do time off/time on or just blow the siren at somewhere around the 28 minute mark"
I'm pretty sure they asked us if we wanted to play straight 20 something minutes and not do time on.
Looks like a bit of double teaming there. Hey Morell, I didnt know your club was up for trying new things mate. A bit of a public exhibition happening there. Ha ha ha lol.
carey wrote: I made it clear to the playing group if I heard one bloke blame anything else but them/ourselves I'd punch who ever said it straight in the mouth. Love the time keeper or hate him he does it week in week out for the love of the club. Volenters are extremily hard to come by.
I actually heard those exact words coming from Careys mouth after the game and was quite impressed. Was a weird feeling after the game, I must admit. Don't know if anyone else realised but the second quarter went over by about 4 1/2 minutes. I then jokingly said to our manager " I wonder if they actually do time off/time on or just blow the siren at somewhere around the 28 minute mark"
I'm pretty sure they asked us if we wanted to play straight 20 something minutes and not do time on.
Is there merit in SAAFL considering a change....moving from 20 minutes plus time on to a flat 28 or 30 minutes. Time keeping is not an exact science in the lower grades because most field umpires never signal time off or time on correctly anyway. Flat 30 minutes makes it easy for everyone.
Even with time on, most games wouldn't go that long.
I did say 28 or 30 minutes. I haven't been time keeper for a few years, but when doing it previously the average length of most quarters was about 30 minutes. SANFL U18s went from 20 minutes plus time on to flat 28 minutes and that worked out about right. The key to this is the boundary umpires which is where you waste a lot of time - keeping up with play and getting the ball back to the centre after a goal. SANFL U18 boundary umpires are much better (as you would expect) than their Div 6 counterparts, so the extra 2 minutes is to accomodate for this. Just thought it would be an opportunity to simplify the process.
Even with time on, most games wouldn't go that long.
I did say 28 or 30 minutes. I haven't been time keeper for a few years, but when doing it previously the average length of most quarters was about 30 minutes. SANFL U18s went from 20 minutes plus time on to flat 28 minutes and that worked out about right. The key to this is the boundary umpires which is where you waste a lot of time - keeping up with play and getting the ball back to the centre after a goal. SANFL U18 boundary umpires are much better (as you would expect) than their Div 6 counterparts, so the extra 2 minutes is to accomodate for this. Just thought it would be an opportunity to simplify the process.
Whilst having a fixed time set for the A grade games has some merit in simplifying the process and defusing let's say "questionable" time keeping practices, I would (IMO) think there is a greater danger for all sorts of skullduggery in the application of time wasting techniques particularly if its tight, and particularly at the business end of the match.........
Even with time on, most games wouldn't go that long.
I did say 28 or 30 minutes. I haven't been time keeper for a few years, but when doing it previously the average length of most quarters was about 30 minutes. SANFL U18s went from 20 minutes plus time on to flat 28 minutes and that worked out about right. The key to this is the boundary umpires which is where you waste a lot of time - keeping up with play and getting the ball back to the centre after a goal. SANFL U18 boundary umpires are much better (as you would expect) than their Div 6 counterparts, so the extra 2 minutes is to accomodate for this. Just thought it would be an opportunity to simplify the process.
Whilst having a fixed time set for the A grade games has some merit in simplifying the process and defusing let's say "questionable" time keeping practices, I would (IMO) think there is a greater danger for all sorts of skullduggery in the application of time wasting techniques particularly if its tight, and particularly at the business end of the match.........
Agree, spurious knee injuries would increase dramatically
Even with time on, most games wouldn't go that long.
I did say 28 or 30 minutes. I haven't been time keeper for a few years, but when doing it previously the average length of most quarters was about 30 minutes. SANFL U18s went from 20 minutes plus time on to flat 28 minutes and that worked out about right. The key to this is the boundary umpires which is where you waste a lot of time - keeping up with play and getting the ball back to the centre after a goal. SANFL U18 boundary umpires are much better (as you would expect) than their Div 6 counterparts, so the extra 2 minutes is to accomodate for this. Just thought it would be an opportunity to simplify the process.
Whilst having a fixed time set for the A grade games has some merit in simplifying the process and defusing let's say "questionable" time keeping practices, I would (IMO) think there is a greater danger for all sorts of skullduggery in the application of time wasting techniques particularly if its tight, and particularly at the business end of the match.........
Do we see much skullduggery in the application of time wasting techniques in the Reserves which is currently set at 22 minutes? If there was a significant injury that resulted in the game being halted the umpire could stop the clock.
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Flat quarters with the allowance of time on/off as the umpire(s) see fit e.g slow ball return after goal or serious injury... I like it.
What a joke. What is wrong with each club providing a time keeper and they sit together and do the job properly. The country leagues do it right in most instances and even provide an elevated time keepers box. Yet the intelligent city folk can't
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Flat quarters with the allowance of time on/off as the umpire(s) see fit e.g slow ball return after goal or serious injury... I like it.
What a joke. What is wrong with each club providing a time keeper and they sit together and do the job properly. The country leagues do it right in most instances and even provide an elevated time keepers box. Yet the intelligent city folk can't
I would think that in most instances clubs do it properly in the SAAFL as well. Just because it isn't difficult or seems to be working, doesn't mean there may not be opportunities for improvement.
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Flat quarters with the allowance of time on/off as the umpire(s) see fit e.g slow ball return after goal or serious injury... I like it.
What a joke. What is wrong with each club providing a time keeper and they sit together and do the job properly. The country leagues do it right in most instances and even provide an elevated time keepers box. Yet the intelligent city folk can't
There is nothing wrong with each club providing a time keeper and sitting together. In fact, this is what is supposed to happen in SAAFL, but the reality is that in the lower divisions it doesn't. Most teams allow the home team's time keeper to do the time keeping. It is always difficult to get volunteers to do time keeping because they have to pay attention for every second of the game. Going to flat quarters makes it easy for the volunteer and eliminates the need for time keepers to sit together and keep an eye on each other. There is also the issue with the field umpires in the lower divisions. Most of them do not correctly signal time off or on. Again, flat quarters makes their life easier also and they can just concentrate on making correct decisions.
That's Matty Robbo quite a few of our boys are doing beards or mullets for a cancer charity as one of our lads lost his mum to cancer recently. Matty has just taken it to a new level as he often does