Clubs in strife

morell · Post by **morell** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:18 pm

Also of note: there is a moderate but distinct correlation (~ -0.3) between the numbers of players with a 5km radius of a club and their division.

Meaning, loosely, the more players you have within a 5km radius of your club, the higher the likelihood your division will be higher.

Correlation <> Causation

Q. · Post by Q. » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:26 pm

morell wrote:and Houghton.

The only explanation I have for how they can continue to survive is Q's infinite charisma.

They must have a pretty strong tight knit community/club out there to continually put up two competitive sides without the budget or profile of other clubs.

A lot of spillover from the clubs west of Perseverance Rd/Haines Rd.
Only a small number actually come from Houghton or that side of the hills.

Heck, there are blokes who play for Modbury but live in Houghton (and vice versa).

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:31 pm

Is north haven missing from the maps?

X Runna · Post by **X Runna** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:36 pm

Footy Chick wrote:You'll note that your Torrensvilles and Thebby for at least the last 60-70 years has had a vast greek population, which traditionally played soccer - also this area was taken up with not one, but 2 SANFL teams. (Westies and West Torrens, now SAAFL HQ)

The South Road strip has always been a bit bare for clubs, with Kenilworth being close at the South End, WOS at Glandore and maybe Fitzroy being closest to South Rd at the north end. Even back in the day, Kenilworth was located on Greenhill Road (?) Glandore has been used for a couple of clubs and not sure where St Doms or Renown Park were based (Cue @FOURTH ESTATE, he'll know)

But good work Morrell, no matter what anyone else says Nothing like being blinded with facts

St Dominics played at the ground Blackfriars now call home & Renown Park were at Fitzroy's current ground.

morell · Post by **morell** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:40 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:Is north haven missing from the maps?

I have them at -34.8314959, 138.48841. They're the second most western yellow dot at the top. Is that not where they're located?

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:43 pm

There are 2 clubs on the peninsula districts and havens but only one dot

morell · Post by **morell** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:45 pm

morell wrote:Also of note: there is a moderate but distinct correlation (~ -0.3) between the numbers of players with a 5km radius of a club and their division.

Meaning, loosely, the more players you have within a 5km radius of your club, the higher the likelihood your division will be higher.

Correlation <> Causation

Data:

The Dark Knight · Post by **The Dark Knight** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:46 pm

As Beef as pointed out you've definitely missed us. Brilliant analyzing though mate.

morell · Post by **morell** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:48 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:There are 2 clubs on the peninsula districts and havens but only one dot

Hmmm. I think they've been combined. Do they ever share a ground? Juniors, ressies?

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:48 pm

I think it must districts missing only 9 data points for div 1 on the latest chart but then again uni is excluded

Post by **Footy Chick** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 5:59 pm

morell wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:There are 2 clubs on the peninsula districts and havens but only one dot
Hmmm. I think they've been combined. Do they ever share a ground? Juniors, ressies?

they are awfully close...maybe it's just one big dot

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:02 pm

Maybe he has factored in the impending merger

Yank Man · Post by **Yank Man** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:39 pm

carey wrote:I wish this thread got closed.

Me too.

FOURTH ESTATE · Post by **FOURTH ESTATE** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:09 pm

Renown Park F.C. 1983 - 86 (The amalgamation of Albert Sports & Brompton)
1983 - Renown Park
1984 - Challa Gardens Primary
1985 - 86 Sam Johnson Sports Ground.

St Dominics F.C. 1954 - 86 (1954 - 61 Northern Y.C.W. 1962 - 1986 St Dominics)

1954 - 62 Ground Unknown Member of the N.A.D.F.A.
1963 - 66 Black Friars College
1963 - 86 Fitzroy Terrace. (Where Black Friars O.S. currently play)

St Domincs, Renown Park & St Peters Y.CW. merged at the end of 1986 to form Fitzroy.
Playing at thier current location.

Pag · Post by **Pag** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:17 pm

Awesome work morell, think you missed Salisbury West and North Pines too mate but a top effort. Definitely an interesting look.

Boosh · Post by **Boosh** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:45 pm

Mr Beefy wrote:Maybe he has factored in the impending merger

Nah if he was factoring in future mergers im sure the Grand Junction RoyalDogHawks would have got a guernsey, but maybe he wasn't sure if the home ground would be on Eastern Parade or Newcastle St

Boosh · Post by **Boosh** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:48 pm

FOURTH ESTATE wrote:Renown Park F.C. 1983 - 86 (The amalgamation of Albert Sports & Brompton)
1983 - Renown Park
1984 - Challa Gardens Primary
1985 - 86 Sam Johnson Sports Ground.

St Dominics F.C. 1954 - 86 (1954 - 61 Northern Y.C.W. 1962 - 1986 St Dominics)

1954 - 62 Ground Unknown Member of the N.A.D.F.A.
1963 - 66 Black Friars College
1963 - 86 Fitzroy Terrace. (Where Black Friars O.S. currently play)

St Domincs, Renown Park & St Peters Y.CW. merged at the end of 1986 to form Fitzroy.
Playing at thier current location.

That is quite a mouthful, bit like Saint Michaels Old Scholars Hindmarsh West Lakes (Formerly Semaphore Park)

Mr Beefy · Post by **Mr Beefy** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:00 pm

Boosh wrote:
Mr Beefy wrote:Maybe he has factored in the impending merger

Nah if he was factoring in future mergers im sure the Grand Junction RoyalDogHawks would have got a guernsey, but maybe he wasn't sure if the home ground would be on Eastern Parade or Newcastle St

not sure if red white blue brown yellow black combo would work

Jetters · Post by **Jetters** » Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:01 pm

morell wrote:Also of note: there is a moderate but distinct correlation (~ -0.3) between the numbers of players with a 5km radius of a club and their division.

Meaning, loosely, the more players you have within a 5km radius of your club, the higher the likelihood your division will be higher.

Correlation <> Causation

Looking at the data div 7 as a group appears to be an outlier, is there any correlation if you removed it?

jo172 · Post by **jo172** » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:44 am

Jetters wrote:
morell wrote:Also of note: there is a moderate but distinct correlation (~ -0.3) between the numbers of players with a 5km radius of a club and their division.

Meaning, loosely, the more players you have within a 5km radius of your club, the higher the likelihood your division will be higher.

Correlation <> Causation

Looking at the data div 7 as a group appears to be an outlier, is there any correlation if you removed it?

It would also be interesting to see it without the Old Colls sides as in some cases their Oval is no where near their school (Old Iggies). Also, the "catchment" for elite colleges such as PAC and SPOC is more a matter of family blood allegiance rather than geographical catchment.

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