Chuck Wepner wrote:Gawler Central to miss a home GF? South likely to make it? What are you smoking Days..
He is on some good stuff. Why all the love for South? Will get a touchup by Willaston tomorrow and then play us which is 50/50 before heading to Angaston which is no certainty up there. I still think they will miss finals, Donnies and us to hopefully round out the top 4
Hows that prediction going RR? Who's on the good stuff? Even Angaston beat Freeling by 13 goals, a team you scraped in by a couple last week. Kapunda are a long way off the top 5
Yeah poor judgement on my behalf. Dont think we are a long way off though days, really should of beaten the Tiges yesterday but as they say poor kicking is poor football. Missed too many gettable shots on goal and paid the price. The South result surprised me, thought Willaston were shoe ins yesterday. Going to be tough for us now but mathematically could scrape in with 1 more win providing results go our way. At the end of the day if we cant beat South this week then we dont deserve to play finals
On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
Exactly my thoughts
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Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
That is just a ridiculous attitude mate. In this day and age there is absolutely no way a community footy club is able to raise the 6-figure sums needed for really decent facility upgrades (Tanunda? Nuri?) without government grants and/or a benefactor or sponsor who conveniently needs to get rid of some money for tax purposes or otherwise...
If it wasn't for the grandstand at the dog track being out of action (something which is not under footy club control) then I would not consider the Dog Track to be any better or worse as a GF venue than Kapunda or Freeling and they have both hosted one in the last 10 years.
It has been the Barossa, Light and Gawler Football Association for over 20 years and I'm pretty sure the league has benefited from the amalgamation. It's about time some people around the other clubs had a bit of a look at themselves in the mirror...
I'm not saying the Dog Track is the MCG but it is certainly a long way from 'sub-standard'. We have a pretty good surface, decent changerooms and plenty of room for parking. The actual dog track itself is ideal for supporters to set up shades and deck chairs to watch the footy. We do struggle for a lack of shelter which is exacerbated by the council condemning the grandstand. It would have been ridiculous of the club to spend any money fixing up the grandstand when it is getting knocked down in 6 months!
The GF day is what people make it. There has never been a GF there since the Barossa and Gawler sides have played in the same league so I just don't see why people can't approach it with an open mind!
I did hear a rumour yesterday from a club official that the association is investigating the possibility of playing GF's at Elizabeth oval in the future. Wonder if there is any truth to this
Red Rocket wrote:I did hear a rumour yesterday from a club official that the association is investigating the possibility of playing GF's at Elizabeth oval in the future. Wonder if there is any truth to this
It should go without saying that that is a horrible idea.
Red Rocket wrote:I did hear a rumour yesterday from a club official that the association is investigating the possibility of playing GF's at Elizabeth oval in the future. Wonder if there is any truth to this
It should go without saying that that is a horrible idea.
Elizabeth sits in none of the Barossa, Light or Gawler regions, so why should it be a potential candidate anyways?
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Red Rocket wrote:I did hear a rumour yesterday from a club official that the association is investigating the possibility of playing GF's at Elizabeth oval in the future. Wonder if there is any truth to this
It should go without saying that that is a horrible idea.
Elizabeth sits in none of the Barossa, Light or Gawler regions, so why should it be a potential candidate anyways?
Only going on what I heard. Perhaps the bigwigs think that the facilities are all top notch and its a neutral venue. Each club gets to host it every 9 years and we dont have the ridiculous scenerio we have now of home Grand Finals. The current system is flawed, Barossa were gifted a home GF last year, hardly fair on Tanunda who were minor premiers and we could see the same this year with Gawler Centrals.
Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
That is just a ridiculous attitude mate. In this day and age there is absolutely no way a community footy club is able to raise the 6-figure sums needed for really decent facility upgrades (Tanunda? Nuri?) without government grants and/or a benefactor or sponsor who conveniently needs to get rid of some money for tax purposes or otherwise...
If it wasn't for the grandstand at the dog track being out of action (something which is not under footy club control) then I would not consider the Dog Track to be any better or worse as a GF venue than Kapunda or Freeling and they have both hosted one in the last 10 years.
It has been the Barossa, Light and Gawler Football Association for over 20 years and I'm pretty sure the league has benefited from the amalgamation. It's about time some people around the other clubs had a bit of a look at themselves in the mirror...
Extractor I would like to point out that I'm for you guys having the finals but when you mention Tanunda & Nuri facility upgrades with a ? mark you may lose my support. Our upgrades on the clubrooms & change rooms where done along time ago with club funds and pure hard work, the latest upgrades outside have also been done with massive fund raising efforts and massive amounts of support from the community. Basically everything has been done by the club and there are people who have devoted their lives to it (hardly an easy task), perhaps there are some other clubs who should take notice to what we have done and then do the same with their own clubs.
Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
Exactly my thoughts
What's good about our facilities Days? We were fortunate that our grandstand and change rooms was rebuilt due to a 'fire'
Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
Exactly my thoughts
What's good about our facilities Days? We were fortunate that our grandstand and change rooms was rebuilt due to a 'fire'
Neutral ground for the Grand Final should be the only way to go although I can see the merit behind giving each ground a rotation year on year.
Red Rocket wrote:On the finals, the show piece should be played at the best venues. Centrals and South have third world facilities and should hold their finals at Willaston which is easily amongst the top couple of venues in the comp. The clubs still make plenty of money holding it there and when they can show they can spend money on their facilities rather than players they can hold a GF. Have no problem with a minor final but not a GF
Exactly my thoughts
What's good about our facilities Days? We were fortunate that our grandstand and change rooms was rebuilt due to a 'fire'
At great cost to the football club.
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GC and South clearly have the worst facilities of all the clubs in the league... Maybe not the worst grounds, i think the surface at both grounds are good come september. South a tad hard possibly.The whole BLG argument he put forward is a joke. My children sleep in a bed larger than the away change rooms at south, and they also get a loo within metres (GC). On another note, South is just purely a sub standard place to play and watch footy, however I do think central are hamstrung by the dog track and therefore the viewing logistics required for a grand final. Not great having to watch footy through 2/3 sets of fences and a heap of sand. The ladder positions are in effect largely negated by the ridiculous nuetral ground rule in place anyway. Leave the ego money talk at the door, and play home finals??? Earn it get it, the pinnacle is A grade, so juniors, reserves can deal with it. But Just my opinion.
Probably didn't make my point all that well Swooper. I am not saying that it isn't possible for clubs to improve their facilities at all, I am saying that it is extremely hard without a benefactor or grants or raising funds over many years. I don't know the exact situation with the Tanunda and Nuri shelters but I do understand at least Nuri got a grant to assist their fundraising...
What I was trying to say is that Tanunda and Nuri are the only 2 clubs that have significantly improved their facilities over the last 10 years or so. Angaston rebuilt the grandstand around 2002 but obviously something had to be done after they had a fire. There clearly isn't a heap of big facilities improvements going on around the league each year. Some clubs (Such as Willaston) are lucky enough to be situated on an oval which is ideal for a Grand Final and others (South) aren't. Clubs shouldn't be banned from hosting the GF because they were unlucky enough to end up on a certain oval 50 plus years ago. The only decision should be around whether the oval is able to host the GF.
I maintain that the Dog Track is certainly able to host a successful grand final. It might not be as suitable as Nuri, Willaston or Ango but that should not stop us from being given a chance to show that we can do a good job.
The home final scenario is a tricky one though. How do we deal with the Tanunda situation over the last few years? TFC made a heap of consecutive GFs so they haven't been able to host one in some time. Is that fair?
Probably didn't make my point all that well Swooper. I am not saying that it isn't possible for clubs to improve their facilities at all, I am saying that it is extremely hard without a benefactor or grants or raising funds over many years. I don't know the exact situation with the Tanunda and Nuri shelters but I do understand at least Nuri got a grant to assist their fundraising...
What I was trying to say is that Tanunda and Nuri are the only 2 clubs that have significantly improved their facilities over the last 10 years or so. Angaston rebuilt the grandstand around 2002 but obviously something had to be done after they had a fire. There clearly isn't a heap of big facilities improvements going on around the league each year. Some clubs (Such as Willaston) are lucky enough to be situated on an oval which is ideal for a Grand Final and others (South) aren't. Clubs shouldn't be banned from hosting the GF because they were unlucky enough to end up on a certain oval 50 plus years ago. The only decision should be around whether the oval is able to host the GF.
I maintain that the Dog Track is certainly able to host a successful grand final. It might not be as suitable as Nuri, Willaston or Ango but that should not stop us from being given a chance to show that we can do a good job.
The home final scenario is a tricky one though. How do we deal with the Tanunda situation over the last few years? TFC made a heap of consecutive GFs so they haven't been able to host one in some time. Is that fair?
Skip Dimes wrote:GC and South clearly have the worst facilities of all the clubs in the league... Maybe not the worst grounds, i think the surface at both grounds are good come september. South a tad hard possibly.The whole BLG argument he put forward is a joke. My children sleep in a bed larger than the away change rooms at south, and they also get a loo within metres (GC). On another note, South is just purely a sub standard place to play and watch footy, however I do think central are hamstrung by the dog track and therefore the viewing logistics required for a grand final. Not great having to watch footy through 2/3 sets of fences and a heap of sand. The ladder positions are in effect largely negated by the ridiculous nuetral ground rule in place anyway. Leave the ego money talk at the door, and play home finals??? Earn it get it, the pinnacle is A grade, so juniors, reserves can deal with it. But Just my opinion.
SGFC supporter here. I can confirm that our facilities are shizenhousen. But hey, the club is full of great blokes and the beer is cold!
It is a tad embarrasing for us though...we are the poor kid at primary school that every one picks on because the folks can only afford second hand clothes.
What ever happend to the Lendleas development up at Gawler East? There was talk of a professional standard sporting complex going in there.
Extractor wrote:Probably didn't make my point all that well Swooper. I am not saying that it isn't possible for clubs to improve their facilities at all, I am saying that it is extremely hard without a benefactor or grants or raising funds over many years. I don't know the exact situation with the Tanunda and Nuri shelters but I do understand at least Nuri got a grant to assist their fundraising...
What I was trying to say is that Tanunda and Nuri are the only 2 clubs that have significantly improved their facilities over the last 10 years or so. Angaston rebuilt the grandstand around 2002 but obviously something had to be done after they had a fire. There clearly isn't a heap of big facilities improvements going on around the league each year. Some clubs (Such as Willaston) are lucky enough to be situated on an oval which is ideal for a Grand Final and others (South) aren't. Clubs shouldn't be banned from hosting the GF because they were unlucky enough to end up on a certain oval 50 plus years ago. The only decision should be around whether the oval is able to host the GF.
I maintain that the Dog Track is certainly able to host a successful grand final. It might not be as suitable as Nuri, Willaston or Ango but that should not stop us from being given a chance to show that we can do a good job.
The home final scenario is a tricky one though. How do we deal with the Tanunda situation over the last few years? TFC made a heap of consecutive GFs so they haven't been able to host one in some time. Is that fair?
Very well said, I agree with you totally and I'm well and truly in favour of all clubs hosting finals. As far as Nuri goes they did get a grant but it is a little different as that ground (including the caravan park) and all its facilities fall under private entity and the clubrooms are used for functions. Tanunda the clubrooms and change rooms where done at least 20 to 30 years ago by local support and the club puts a lot into maintaining them. The outside facilities was done by some cash but mainly by generous sponsorship and I will make the point this was not just given to the club, there where some people that worked very hard, lobbied and put it all together.
Big dilemma do the Donnybrooks play everyone this week going all out for the win while risking injury or get the players fully fit for Nuri and have the side ready for that game.
