Free agents/Trade discussion

[Rik E Boy]

Big deal about Pick 17's history. Wellingham is still shite as you'll find out soon enough. All that research and all you could have posted was 'I rate him'. but you didn't. And in twelve months time I'm tipping you wont either.

More worried about his hairstyle.

regards,

REB

[Booney]

Damien Barrett says Geelong are very close and confident in getting all three of Caddy, Rivers and McIntosh.

Well, well, well. Wont this test "He plays for Geelong so he's a superstar" theory, REB?

[Booney]

Did anyone else see this amount of player movement coming with the introduction of free agency?

I certainly didn't expect this much movement.

[cennals05]

Did anyone else see this amount of player movement coming with the introduction of free agency?

I certainly didn't expect this much movement.

So you're excited by free agency then?

[Booney]

Did anyone else see this amount of player movement coming with the introduction of free agency?

I certainly didn't expect this much movement.

So you're excited by free agency then?

You see, I thought about putting a * in place, but decided against it.

[Booney]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.

Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.

Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?

What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

[Lance's brother]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.

Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.

Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?

What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.

I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

[JK]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.

Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.

Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?

What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.

I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

It is a flaw in the system I think, but at the end of the day it's swings and roundabouts .. All clubs at different times can benefit from certain inequalites that exist.

[RustyCage]

Unless you happen to bottom out during expansion years!

[JK]

Unless you happen to bottom out during expansion years!

For which a clubs stupidity probably don't deserve any reward lol

[Booney]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.
Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.
Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?
What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.
I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

No, previosuly they had to match the pick as far as the round goes ie - Port offered a first round pick, so should Melbourne have to, well, not anymore.

Not so much anger as sick of the double standards. Port were prepared to offer pick 7 to get him, but Melbourne keep him with pick 26 or so.

[scoob]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.
Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.
Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?
What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.
I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

No, previosuly they had to match the pick as far as the round goes ie - Port offered a first round pick, so should Melbourne have to, well, not anymore.

Not so much anger as sick of the double standards. Port were prepared to offer pick 7 to get him, but Melbourne keep him with pick 26 or so.

Presume that is the benefit of his old man playing for years for that club... not a big issue IMO

[Dissident]

The Father Son rule is a joke.

Emotion aside, in this day and age of a professional competition, with billions of dollars rolling in - and add in the "equalization" policies the AFL seems to have in place, the fact a team can get a gun for way under the odds is just silly.


Also, Free Agency is a joke.

It's just standard trading except you can nominate your club AND get there 100%, and the club you came from still gets something in return, but the AFL makes a pick up out of thin air.

[Dissident]

Add again - the conjured-up picks devalue the current pics behind them - making it difficult for tradig.

[David Brent]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.
Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.
Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?
What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.
I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

No, previosuly they had to match the pick as far as the round goes ie - Port offered a first round pick, so should Melbourne have to, well, not anymore.

Not so much anger as sick of the double standards. Port were prepared to offer pick 7 to get him, but Melbourne keep him with pick 26 or so.

Port wouldn't have taken him with pick 3 though so why should Melbourne have too. Good system IMO

[Dissident]

It's called getting lucky and having your pick for being sh!t lower than another clubs pick for being sh!t.

[Booney]

Port "offer" pick 7 for Jack Viney.
Under the father-son rule Melbourne must match a first round pick ( as Port offered ) to retain Viney.
Melbourne offer second round pick so Port get Viney.....oh no, no Sir. Melbournes only remaining first round pick is a compensation pick for Tom Scully and the AFL wants those "protected"?
What.The.****. does that mean? Bullshit.

They have to use the next pick after someones nominated bid - yours was 7, so they still wouldn't have had to use pick 3 or 4. Their next pick is the 20 odd one they used if you exclude their compensation pick for losing Scully.
I don't see that it negatively effects Port that much, not sure why so much anger.

No, previosuly they had to match the pick as far as the round goes ie - Port offered a first round pick, so should Melbourne have to, well, not anymore.

Not so much anger as sick of the double standards. Port were prepared to offer pick 7 to get him, but Melbourne keep him with pick 26 or so.

Port wouldn't have taken him with pick 3 though so why should Melbourne have too. Good system IMO

*sigh*

It was formerly that the club in Melbournes position had to MATCH the offer of Port, ie - a first round pick.

That is no longer the case, it seems.

My point is that not only are SA/WA based clubs already at a disadvantage with father-son picks the rules have been "changed" to make it even harder.

[Dissident]

I thought the rule was changed from being a 3rd round pick, to being the NEXT pick you have AFTER a club who bids (from that pick) - I don't think it was ever "they bid a first round so you have to as well"

[gossipgirl]

The Father Son rule is a joke.

Emotion aside, in this day and age of a professional competition, with billions of dollars rolling in - and add in the "equalization" policies the AFL seems to have in place, the fact a team can get a gun for way under the odds is just silly.


Also, Free Agency is a joke.

It's just standard trading except you can nominate your club AND get there 100%, and the club you came from still gets something in return, but the AFL makes a pick up out of thin air.

Father son rule made up by victorians to favour victorian sides.

[Dissident]

It wasn't made specifically to favour Melbourne sides - it just happened.
And now it's there, can't be changed.

Should be scrapped.