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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby smac » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:13 pm

Booney wrote:Many people believe a person with a high public profile, whether liked or not ( McGuire, Kennett etc ) fits well in the role of an AFL President. I agree.

Foley certainly fits that description.

I'm certainly not going to say who I want or dont want involved at the club in the President or coaching role for the time being, its not up to me to decide.

We, as Port supporters, need to put our trust in Keith Thomas to get two big decisions right and I certainly have faith in him to do the work, make the right selections and then and only then can I see how we move forward.

Does Thomas select the president? Serious question.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:17 pm

smac wrote:
Booney wrote:Many people believe a person with a high public profile, whether liked or not ( McGuire, Kennett etc ) fits well in the role of an AFL President. I agree.

Foley certainly fits that description.

I'm certainly not going to say who I want or dont want involved at the club in the President or coaching role for the time being, its not up to me to decide.

We, as Port supporters, need to put our trust in Keith Thomas to get two big decisions right and I certainly have faith in him to do the work, make the right selections and then and only then can I see how we move forward.

Does Thomas select the president? Serious question.


Would be board appointed surely? AFL rubber stamp now as well
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Media Park » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:01 pm

Heard Scott Burns was spotted leaving for Adelaide today.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:02 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
smac wrote:
Booney wrote:Many people believe a person with a high public profile, whether liked or not ( McGuire, Kennett etc ) fits well in the role of an AFL President. I agree.
Foley certainly fits that description.
I'm certainly not going to say who I want or dont want involved at the club in the President or coaching role for the time being, its not up to me to decide.
We, as Port supporters, need to put our trust in Keith Thomas to get two big decisions right and I certainly have faith in him to do the work, make the right selections and then and only then can I see how we move forward.

Does Thomas select the president? Serious question.

Would be board appointed surely? AFL rubber stamp now as well


Correct, board appointed, but I'm pretty sure everything that happens in the next 4-6 weeks will go across Thomas' desk for approval, whether we know it or not.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby CoverKing » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:22 pm

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Brad wrote:Mick Malthouse has suggested Terry Wallace....


Terry Wallace has already said he won't coach again. He is strong in his belief that coaches should only coach two clubs maximum


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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Brodlach » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:24 pm

CoverKing wrote:
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Brad wrote:Mick Malthouse has suggested Terry Wallace....


Terry Wallace has already said he won't coach again. He is strong in his belief that coaches should only coach two clubs maximum


And I've got that wrong :oops:



If he thinks he is good enough to go again, then he has it wrong. Crap coach.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Squids » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:34 pm

Wallace wants the job :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Rik E Boy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:39 pm

Terry Wallett you've got to be kidding me? Might as well get Parko or Tommy Hafey or Barass. I reckon Eade is the man who should get the gig. Experienced and from outside the club and state. And listen to the man!

Wallace FFS! I've got no love for the Power but I'd pity the fools if they appointed that dingbat.

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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Squids » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:03 pm

Rodney Eade sucks, look at how he left the Bullfrogs
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Jim05 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:14 pm

Surely not Wallace, he is a clueless clown.
Just when Port fans thought they couldnt get any lower they mention this dud.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Dutchy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:16 pm

Great article, nails it IMO...


Did you hear the one about the Power and crying comedian?

by: Patrick Smith
From: The Australian


PORT Adelaide lost its most important man yesterday. And it wasn't coach Matthew Primus. It was someone called Brett Duncanson. Apparently he has been chairman for nearly four years.

Duncanson headed a news conference at which he spoke for what must have been nearly a day, interrupted only by bouts of weeping. Duncanson has stood down after leading - no, that is an exaggeration, so we'll change that to heading - the club.

In which time Port has finished 10th, 10th, 16th and presently sits on five wins and in 14th place. The club is on more financial drip feeds than Greece, has a diminishing supporter base and officials call two men and a dog a sellout crowd.

Duncanson's board had reappointed Mark Williams for two years in June 2009 and then sacked him in July 2010. The payout to the former premiership coach may have been as much as $1 million. The same board then appointed Primus and sacked him on the weekend. It is not known whether the AFL had a hand in Duncanson's resignation but surely if he had not stepped down then a push in the back was heading his way. Port is presently in the middle of a $9m subsidy handout from the AFL.
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Chief executive Keith Thomas, whose national comedy tour, Boom Boom, starts following round 23, took over the media conference after Duncanson fell apart when he was about to thank his family. Thomas declared the club was not in crisis. Sorry, the tour started yesterday. Boom boom.

When Thomas had finished his skit and was about to take questions, Duncanson, weeping no more, took over to finally thank his family which included his daughter who is a psychiatrist. She works from home.

This slice of life at Port Adelaide exposed a club at its most dysfunctional. Thomas said the club had decided to end the career of Primus early because it wanted to go into the marketplace. Two points: retaining Primus until round 23 and sussing out coaching options are not mutually exclusive. And it is not as though any other club will be chasing a coach between now and next season unless Brett Ratten and Carlton completely botch their final month of football for the year.

How Duncanson, a president, came to be the centre of attention the day a coach was cut is indicative of a club with a blind spot to the issues that struck it down. Nobody was even slightly interested in Duncanson or who helped him or who encouraged him or how critical was the love of his family.

Once he said he would stand down to give the board "clear air", public interest had peaked. The rest of his teary monologue were emotions best left to be shared in private. It was self-indulgence of squirm in-your-chair proportions. But it did suggest Port Adelaide was some sort of wacky club that rated officials more importantly than coaches and players.

Duncanson toted achievements accomplished under his chairmanship but that's for the annual report. Unless he was to explain how the club could be so bereft of self-respect on the ground and away from it then he was wasting everybody's time.

This is a tough assessment of Duncanson, a man who has given much to football and Port Adelaide. He has given his time generously and always worked in what he thought were the best interests of the club. But under his chairmanship Port has made two whopping bad errors - Williams and Primus.

The decision to sack Williams was supposed to halt the malaise that had overtaken the playing list. Williams was deemed to be the cause. Yet Primus could fare no better and the board once more assessed the coach as the heart of the problem. So, two coaches and a lot of money later, Port still has not identified the reason for its incompetence.

Thomas explained - when he got a chance - that the club had been under private review for most of the year. The results would be kept in-house but it is believed it recommended Primus be kept on as coach.

The bigger issues were seen to be in the football department, resources and general football knowledge.

Unless the review recommends an extensive clean-out of staff - football and administrative - then it is not worth the time and effort to produce it.

The demise of Williams and Primus shows it is not about the quality of the coaching but rather decrepitude endemic to the club culture.

If none of this is attempted, or is but fails to identify the core problems, then the AFL will have no alternative but to step in.

It has two new clubs in Gold Coast and GWS that will struggle to establish themselves for as many as five years and swallow up AFL funding in the meantime.

It cannot have a club not winning, not earning money and not drawing crowds or interest.

Port will try once more with yet another new coach. If it cannot turn itself into a functioning and respected AFL club it might not be around after the AFL's present broadcast deal expires. Now that would be something to weep over.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby saintal » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:57 pm

Love him or hate him (Smith), that is a great read.
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby overloaded » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:08 pm

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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:08 pm

Dean Bailey???? un mentioned and a Senior Assistant surely looking for another crack
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:18 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Dean Bailey???? un mentioned and a Senior Assistant surely looking for another crack


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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Sheik Yerbouti » Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:46 pm

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Dutchy wrote:I would have Mark Harvey as the no. 1 target, young and would have a massive fire in the belly.

Dunno about Rocket.

Even Neil Craig would be OK, at least would give the club some structure and no bullshit.


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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Media Park » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Dean Bailey???? un mentioned and a Senior Assistant surely looking for another crack

Dean Bailey?

Change your name to Footy Not Smart
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Psyber » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:00 pm

Media Park wrote:Heard Scott Burns was spotted leaving for Adelaide today.
Another Norwood boy involved in the gradual take over... ;)
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby dedja » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:27 pm

True, Rohde and Primus have done wonders for Port ...
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Re: PRIMUS - Gone (Rucci claim on 5AA)

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:46 pm

dedja wrote:True, Rohde and Primus have done wonders for Port ...


Norwood people think they've done a great job
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