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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Dutchy » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:34 pm

Mifsud shouldnt be sacked, but neither should have Rendell.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby stan » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:29 am

The thing that gets me about Rendell is that I would not have sacked or let him resign. I would of had a word to him or perhaps provided him with some courses about how to behave when there is a media presence about. Here is why I have this point of view:

I reckon you will find alot of teams out there that agree with the points he has made. And you will find that plenty of other teams will have similar policies, however you will not see any of this come out in the open. With the way the draft is set up if you dont want to draft player A and choose B instead, there are not please explains from the AFL as to the way you draft.

Bascially coming out and stating this is a stupid act as it sends a message to all about your recuriting tactics. So really if you were going to sack him it wouldnt be for being a racist. It would be because he acted stupidly and revealed some tactics.

Still he also came up with some good solutions as well that I think the AFL should look at. For example his scholarship program to utilise SA's private schools.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:45 am

It was actually his scholarship programs idea that apparently annoyed Mifsud most, I think he was linking it back to the stolen generation and that there was an idea that the kids had a better chance to succeed while not being around their families. Which of course was not Rendells point, only basing an idea on the pathway of Cyril Rioli.
The whole thing is a mess, I'm just glad that Mifsud has made himself look like the incompetent fool that he so obviously is and he's done it all by himself. Watch over this year Demitriou gun for Grant Thomas. He will be furious! Love it.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby dedja » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:20 pm

Dutchy wrote:Mifsud shouldnt be sacked, but neither should have Rendell.


correct weight ...
Dunno, I’m just an idiot.

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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby NO-MERCY » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:05 pm

dedja wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Mifsud shouldnt be sacked, but neither should have Rendell.


correct weight ...


Mifsud should be sacked & Rendell should not have more like it.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Dirko » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:49 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:It was actually his scholarship programs idea that apparently annoyed Mifsud most


What like this one at Rostrevor http://www.rostrevor.sa.edu.au/academic/rostrevor-indigenous-sports-academy
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Yank Man » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:52 pm

SJABC wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:It was actually his scholarship programs idea that apparently annoyed Mifsud most


What like this one at Rostrevor http://www.rostrevor.sa.edu.au/academic/rostrevor-indigenous-sports-academy


Fantastic link. It's a bit like what Matty was aiming for, but foot and mouth got in the way. Indigenous players are all quality and the more we help with education the better the world. Not just the footy world.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby stan » Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:51 am

NO-MERCY wrote:
dedja wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Mifsud shouldnt be sacked, but neither should have Rendell.


correct weight ...


Mifsud should be sacked & Rendell should not have more like it.


Yes I tend to agree with this. Misfud is the root cause of all of this media attention.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Wedgie » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:33 am

Why do people keep comparing Rendell to Mifsud?
The only thing they have in common was that they both handed in their resignations and they both work with footballers.
They had different employers, one suggested a new type of stolen generation, the other just passed on some info he heard.
Oranages and apples people.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:45 am

Wedgie wrote:Why do people keep comparing Rendell to Mifsud?
The only thing they have in common was that they both handed in their resignations and they both work with footballers.
They had different employers, one suggested a new type of stolen generation, the other just passed on some info he heard.
Oranages and apples people.

What a load of crap
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Wedgie » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:00 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Why do people keep comparing Rendell to Mifsud?
The only thing they have in common was that they both handed in their resignations and they both work with footballers.
They had different employers, one suggested a new type of stolen generation, the other just passed on some info he heard.
Oranages and apples people.

What a load of crap

Whilst your argument is definitive and detailed, I still disagree with you! ;) :lol:
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:18 pm

Posted that while watering the garden.
I've outlined a lot on this topic so you can go back and read those points I've made Wedgie. Your accusation that Rendells possible solution is akin to that of the stolen generation is absurd and insulting to those that were so severely affected by the forced removal of family by the government of the day.
There are scholarship programs all over the country that help indigenous people in their education and futures, be it via sport or the arts etc. Theres a very good program at Rostrevor that has been going for many years, from my understanding with the help of Che Cockatoo-Collins. Sturt have had a few footballers that they have brought down from the NT board out there and study at Rostrevor. So are you suggesting that this program and that of many others are another cycle of the stolen generation?
Mifsud, with the arrogant aid of Demitriou have set back the AFL's good work done concerning racism by 15 years. He should be ashamed for letting down his community with such a dire lack of leadership.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Wedgie » Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:14 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted that while watering the garden.
I've outlined a lot on this topic so you can go back and read those points I've made Wedgie. Your accusation that Rendells possible solution is akin to that of the stolen generation is absurd and insulting to those that were so severely affected by the forced removal of family by the government of the day.

I disagree, I just asked my Dad if he was insulted by my post and he wasn't, he also agreed with my point.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Q. » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:18 pm

Rendell wasn't suggesting that good players be forced to take scholarships.

If a scholarship system did exist I would hope that those who didn't take up the offer would still be given a look-in.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Yank Man » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:15 pm

Q. wrote:Rendell wasn't suggesting that good players be forced to take scholarships.

If a scholarship system did exist I would hope that those who didn't take up the offer would still be given a look-in.


Someone is finally starting to understand the argument. Mifsud has erred too, so does he now need councelling? Probably yes but for the right reasons and not just lip service. Racism in football still exists whether we like it or not. I am involved at low level Amatuer footy and I see it weekly, so the more we are objective to critism and the harder we work to eradicate it, the better we will all be.
Personally I don't see Mifsud as the CAUSE of the problem like a lot do. I see him as the ANSWER. The old communication stakes are now at a premium. As long as footy comes out the winner.
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:52 am

But were his comments intended to be racist? I can't answer that but a bloke in his position would be crazy if they were.
Andy D insists he did not demand the sacking (more like there was no paper trail of his thoughts/requests)......sounds to me he was managed out and quickly.

If this situation did not happen first, Would Mark Neeld have a far more serious issue?
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby holden78 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:11 am

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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Psyber » Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:43 am

Wedgie wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted that while watering the garden.
I've outlined a lot on this topic so you can go back and read those points I've made Wedgie. Your accusation that Rendells possible solution is akin to that of the stolen generation is absurd and insulting to those that were so severely affected by the forced removal of family by the government of the day.
I disagree, I just asked my Dad if he was insulted by my post and he wasn't, he also agreed with my point.
I'm not sure now promoting better education that many people pay a lot to supply for their kids equates to "a new type of stolen generation".
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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Punk Rooster » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:35 pm

Psyber wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted that while watering the garden.
I've outlined a lot on this topic so you can go back and read those points I've made Wedgie. Your accusation that Rendells possible solution is akin to that of the stolen generation is absurd and insulting to those that were so severely affected by the forced removal of family by the government of the day.
I disagree, I just asked my Dad if he was insulted by my post and he wasn't, he also agreed with my point.
I'm not sure now promoting better education that many people pay a lot to supply for their kids equates to "a new type of stolen generation".

If you offer Aboriginal players Scholarships, it's condescending (and racist).
If you don't offer Aboriginal players Scholarships, it's racist.

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Re: Matt Rendell quits

Postby Dogwatcher » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:05 pm

Wedgie wrote: Oranages and apples people.


Please don't use that phrase.
Comparing apples and oranges would surely result in some sort of racial overtone.
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