Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

[Strawb]

And welcome back to Tony Abbott's Version of Work Choices.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... 6262961663
OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has flagged changes to the Federal Government's workplace laws if he were elected prime minister, but has stopped short of saying what he would change

[GWW]

IR may be the only issue that can win the ALP the next election.

[Strawb]

IR may be the only issue that can win the ALP the next election.

I think so. I don't trust Liberal/Nationals as far as I can throw them.

[westcoastpanther]

IR may be the only issue that can win the ALP the next election.

I think so. I don't trust Liberal/Nationals as far as I can throw them.

Trust is the biggest one thing the ALP don't have.......Ask Wilkie

[dedja]

Says it all when Gillard is preferred PM over Abbott in the latest poll this morning.

Gillard is in atrocious trouble but Abbott is just as loathed.

Lord help us all ...

[Q.]

Says it all when Gillard is preferred PM over Abbott in the latest poll this morning.

Gillard is in atrocious trouble but Abbott is just as loathed.

Lord help us all ...

Turd sandwich and a douche.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I've read that somewhere before, I think it got deleted.

[Yardy Lard]

Says it all when Gillard is preferred PM over Abbott in the latest poll this morning.

Gillard is in atrocious trouble but Abbott is just as loathed.

Lord help us all ...

Turd sandwich and a douche.

Could Australia be in any worse trouble, with both leaders? Gillard is only there because Creen and Rudd were shocking and Abbot is a dead set fool, who clearly should not be in charge of his own party and is only there because they also have no one else. If the Liberals had Costello now, they would have someone who had twice the competency levels as Abbott. Flick a coin at the next election and see who wins. Abbott might just fall over the line if he shuts up, but it is too close to call. Which party "least deserves" to lead Australia at the moment could be another key point, with no clear answer to that either. There really is no answer to our current woes with poor leaders from both sides and no light at the end of the tunnel.

[Strawb]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-01/y ... is/3804576
The National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) is one of those things that's been put on Tony Abbott's let's wait and see list, should he land the top job.
Hmmmm so here is where some of the surplus will come from.

[Sojourner]

And welcome back to Tony Abbott's Version of Work Choices.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... 6262961663
OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has flagged changes to the Federal Government's workplace laws if he were elected prime minister, but has stopped short of saying what he would change

Never mind the fact that the ALP did not remove even remotely half of the workchoices legislation and retained plenty of it...

[Strawb]

And welcome back to Tony Abbott's Version of Work Choices.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... 6262961663
OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has flagged changes to the Federal Government's workplace laws if he were elected prime minister, but has stopped short of saying what he would change

Never mind the fact that the ALP did not remove even remotely half of the workchoices legislation and retained plenty of it...

Nope they did not. It will be interesting to see what happens who ever wins the next election.

[Strawb]

Can you commit to anything Tony?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6265599083
TONY Abbott has refused to commit to a return-to-surplus timetable, saying "a lot has happened" since he pledged to erase the deficit in the first term of a Coalition government.

[Psyber]

Can you commit to anything Tony?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6265599083
TONY Abbott has refused to commit to a return-to-surplus timetable, saying "a lot has happened" since he pledged to erase the deficit in the first term of a Coalition government.

Nobody can reliably predict when a surplus can be achieved at present, and Abbott has simply refused to be conned into making a rash prediction.
The ALP are slowly easing themselves back from their repeated surplus promise too, and hoping not one will notice if they back off in small enough steps.

[Yardy Lard]

Can you commit to anything Tony?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6265599083
TONY Abbott has refused to commit to a return-to-surplus timetable, saying "a lot has happened" since he pledged to erase the deficit in the first term of a Coalition government.

Nobody can reliably predict when a surplus can be achieved at present, and Abbott has simply refused to be conned into making a rash prediction.
The ALP are slowly easing themselves back from their repeated surplus promise too, and hoping not one will notice if they back off in small enough steps.

You blokes take this politics all far too seriously. You actually think that one lot of bastards can replace the other pack of bastards and do a better job. Both sides of politics tell lies and both Labour and Liberal are playing a dirty filthy game and both of them have been doing it since time began. Then we have the drop kicks from the Greens and Democrats and others, who also believe their own bullish*t and have not got a chance of ever being in charge. Please no one tell anyone, that one side of politics is better or worse than the other, as both are as bad as one another and both sides will say whatever you want to hear in order to be elected. Who would ever believe any of the policies of either party. As soon as they are elected they then become void and they all have sudden memory loss, or declare that a certain policy was NOT really a "hardcore" promise, so that really does not count. That comment alone, says it all.

[Psyber]

Yardy, I've occasionally been heard to mutter in my more cynical moments that anyone who wants to be a politician shouldn't be allowed to be.
Also, I used to be fond of the once common graffito that said "Don't vote it only encourages them!"

However, we do need some system of government, imperfect though it is, rather than anarchy - and one with checks and balances.
I do think we have too many seats in too many Parliaments though...

Nevertheless, I think that among the career politicians, driven by self interest and party machines, there are idealists.
Nick Xenophon, for example, would have made more money if he'd stuck to being a very successful Barrister - I knew him before he entered Politics.
I almost put my hand up for an SA seat, too, but my wife objected - she asserted that my frustrated idealism would make me Hell to live with.
On reflection, I had to concede she was probably right and give it a miss.

[story of my life]

Yardy, I've occasionally been heard to mutter in my more cynical moments that anyone who wants to be a politician shouldn't be allowed to be.
Also, I used to be fond of the once common graffito that said "Don't vote it only encourages them!"

However, we do need some system of government, imperfect though it is, rather than anarchy - and one with checks and balances.
I do think we have too many seats in too many Parliaments though...

Nevertheless, I think that among the career politicians, driven by self interest and party machines, there are idealists.
Nick Xenophon, for example, would have made more money if he'd stuck to being a very successful Barrister - I knew him before he entered Politics.
I almost put my hand up for an SA seat, too, but my wife objected - she asserted that my frustrated idealism would make me Hell to live with.
On reflection, I had to concede she was probably right and give it a miss.

but the tosser would have missed out an all the publicity

[Yardy Lard]

Yardy, I've occasionally been heard to mutter in my more cynical moments that anyone who wants to be a politician shouldn't be allowed to be.
Also, I used to be fond of the once common graffito that said "Don't vote it only encourages them!"

However, we do need some system of government, imperfect though it is, rather than anarchy - and one with checks and balances.
I do think we have too many seats in too many Parliaments though...

Nevertheless, I think that among the career politicians, driven by self interest and party machines, there are idealists.
Nick Xenophon, for example, would have made more money if he'd stuck to being a very successful Barrister - I knew him before he entered Politics.
I almost put my hand up for an SA seat, too, but my wife objected - she asserted that my frustrated idealism would make me Hell to live with.
On reflection, I had to concede she was probably right and give it a miss.

You are right of course Psyber and we need governments of all persuasions. It is the cynical side of me that just dis-trusts any of them and every time one of them "from either party" opens their mouth they just open it to tell another lie or to push themselves further up the food chain, in their party. Would be great having friends like these blokes, or just even in your life - like hell. Don't like people who just constantly tell lies and have a bloody good memory, for all of them. These politicians, just like a whole range of other people who you meet in life who constantly lie, you just remember - even though them personally, the people they are representing and their parties hope that you just forget. Got news for them.

[rk25]

The sad thing is there are some really, really good MPs. There are some who I would... wait for it... trust. My local member (before leaving SA) in Torrens was one of these. It might not be exotic or exciting, but she was concerned about helping little old ladies and young families in her community. Kudos to her.

Obviously, though, that's not the way to get ahead in party politics. If only there were more of these pollies, we'd have less bullsh*t permeating our TV screens and newspapers every day. The best MPs are the ones who we don't hear about and who are only known in their local communities - people who the factions, the Ministers and the press need reminding about who they actually are.

Having said that, things might get a bit boring if there was nothing for us to complain about.

[scoob]

The sad thing is there are some really, really good MPs. There are some who I would... wait for it... trust. My local member (before leaving SA) in Torrens was one of these. It might not be exotic or exciting, but she was concerned about helping little old ladies and young families in her community. Kudos to her.

Obviously, though, that's not the way to get ahead in party politics. If only there were more of these pollies, we'd have less bullsh*t permeating our TV screens and newspapers every day. The best MPs are the ones who we don't hear about and who are only known in their local communities - people who the factions, the Ministers and the press need reminding about who they actually are.

Having said that, things might get a bit boring if there was nothing for us to complain about.

We have Craig (cntrl C, Cntrl V) Thomson

[rk25]

The sad thing is there are some really, really good MPs. There are some who I would... wait for it... trust. My local member (before leaving SA) in Torrens was one of these. It might not be exotic or exciting, but she was concerned about helping little old ladies and young families in her community. Kudos to her.

Obviously, though, that's not the way to get ahead in party politics. If only there were more of these pollies, we'd have less bullsh*t permeating our TV screens and newspapers every day. The best MPs are the ones who we don't hear about and who are only known in their local communities - people who the factions, the Ministers and the press need reminding about who they actually are.

Having said that, things might get a bit boring if there was nothing for us to complain about.

We have Craig (cntrl C, Cntrl V) Thomson

Well, he allegedly* pours plenty back into local businesses. So long as there is a red light on the front porch.

* = the inner lawyer coming out in me.