"Thug"

[Punk Rooster]

I look back on the Salisbury/Klomp clashes with chagrin thinking of how Klompy is now a security man and Salisbury is making millions of bucks in the real estate business.

I hate all things Glenelg, but I'll conceed that the homes he builds are of high quality, & I have seen a lot of different builders, & would not touch some of them with the Leprosy stick.

Antrobus wasn't a thug, 99% of his indescretions were retaliatory but the guy was too stupid to wait until the umpire wasn't looking like most would.

Impatient Wedgie, impatient.

[redandblack]

Wedgie, let's put aside our West/North loyalties for a moment. We all see games from our own point of view.

However, whatever, if anything, happened earlier in the game, nothing in the world would excuse Sims cowardly attack on Simpson. I think all football followers would think the same. It doesn't come down to who Sims played for, it comes down to a cowardly king-hit from behind that knocked out a player chasing the ball.

Sims further boorish comments that night just confirmed his total lack of class and would surely be condemned by all fair-minded football fans.

For the record, I know the score that day and I'm happy to concede that North were obviously the better team on the day and deserved to win.

It's all long ago now and best left, but I wanted to put the record straight.

[drebin]

R&B - no one is disputing the Sims punch was bad but go back and look at the replay - the first quarter is littered with bottom of the pack punches and off the ball punches and dropping the knees into Hart and others from Simpson in his taging role on Darel Hart. Even Glen Goss is captured falling on top of Hart after a mark and swinging a fist into Harts head. None of those indiscretions were punished. Nunan sent word out to the umpires at 1/4 time via Klomp to say if Simpson was going to get way with that sort of play then North would retaliate so Sims was told to use the same tatics. I know even Nunan was suprised that Sims threw the king hit because that is not actually what he meant. Sometimes if your backed into a corner you have to come out swinging. West just had a dumb game plan that day then lost the plot after the Simpson hit. I also question Sims getting 10 games for one punch when a West player held Krieg (a very fair ball player) down in the 3rd quarter on the grandstand wing and proceeded to punch him 12 times to the head with Krieg having no way to defend himself. All captured on video. I think that player got 3 games!

[Wedgie]

However, whatever, if anything, happened earlier in the game, nothing in the world would excuse Sims cowardly attack on Simpson. I think all football followers would think the same. It doesn't come down to who Sims played for, it comes down to a cowardly king-hit from behind that knocked out a player chasing the ball.

Agreed fully r&b, I was never excusing it, just explaining why it happened. The fact is it never would have happened if Westies had come out and tried to beat us with fair football, they knew they were no chance at that so tried another tact which sent them even further backwards and gave them some consequences they didn't expext/know how to handy, classic bully stuff.

Sims further boorish comments that night just confirmed his total lack of class and would surely be condemned by all fair-minded football fans.

Didn't worry me to tell the truth, every sporting club especially in full celebratory mode say things derogatory/in bad taste about other clubs, just a part of clubs IMHO. I thought it was funny at the time myself but would look back on it differently.

[Punk Rooster]

West just had a dumb game plan that day then lost the plot after the Simpson hit. I also question Sims getting 10 games for one punch when a West player held Krieg (a very fair ball player) down in the 3rd quarter on the grandstand wing and proceeded to punch him 12 times to the head with Krieg having no way to defend himself. All captured on video. I think that player got 3 games!

I've watched the replay many times, and North got screwed by the tribunal. Not disputing the Sims sentence, but what about the general acts of thuggery by the West players, who both started & retaliated? As much as the hit was not an act of toughness, I'm almost inclined to think "thank god" he got it in, otherwise North players would've been hung, drawn & quartered. North had to stand up for themselves that day, & I'm glad they did. It makes my blood boil just watching the "acts of toughness" by West, as Drebin described.

[JK]

Come on Wedgie, a North player wouldn't have done it for that reason? It would have been more along the lines of "Why didn't you play for us?" or "Why have you got better skills than I have?"

Nah, quite different to all that, Norwood were becoming increasingly frustrated that day as we were outclassing them on the Park as per usual. They were doing quite a few dirty things to try and put us off our game behind play, we had enough and returned serve, they couldn't handle it and got caned and whinged like punctured pigs. Just the usual.

As I said before I'm quite objective in regard to these incidents hence why I pulled out egs such as the Sims and Riley incident. Aish and Norwood got what they deserved that day IMHO. I must dig the video out of that game, always enjoy it heaps, I remember cheering myself silly that day and giving Bradley Ryan a round of applause.

LMFAO good to see the Red and White glasses are still in good nick!

[bayman]

this is from memory but didn't a north player hit/bumped a port player in a prelim final in the late 80's & broke his jaw ? i think & i could be wrong but was it d.jarman/r.smith ? i remember the collision but i cant remember who the players were

[Wedgie]

this is from memory but didn't a north player hit/bumped a port player in a prelim final in the late 80's & broke his jaw ? i think & i could be wrong but was it d.jarman/r.smith ? i remember the collision but i cant remember who the players were

I remember that one as I almost got killed by Port supporters after that incident. It was the 1990 Prelim, DJ's last league game for us, I could be wrong but I don't think the jaw was broken but I do remember a Port player camped under the ball and DJ coming screaming in and wiping him out. The game was already lost by then so it added a bit of entertainment.
As the Port player was having convulsions and looked like he was entering a coma I stood up in the small scoreboard pocket outnumbered about 100/1 by Port supporters and screamed "Top Tackle DJ!!!". The looks from the Port supporters were priceless, the people that were there with me that day had no idea how I got out alive.

[bayman]

while russell johnston hit carl dilena with an elbow & got 5 weeks i think that suspension actually won port the grand final as i believe p.carey would've beaten johnston & given us first use of the ball where as when he was suspended, d.hines (if thats how you spell his name) was too mobile & athletic for super & was able to jump over him thus giving port first use of the ball & obviously the flag, thats what i think i know the port supporters wont agree but i really believe that & a couple of players in that game think the same way but its not fair to mention their names

[bayman]

maybe the port player was hutton ?

[Wedgie]

while russell johnston hit carl dilena with an elbow & got 5 weeks i think that suspension actually won port the grand final as i believe p.carey would've beaten johnston & given us first use of the ball where as when he was suspended, d.hines (if thats how you spell his name) was too mobile & athletic for super & was able to jump over him thus giving port first use of the ball & obviously the flag, thats what i think i know the port supporters wont agree but i really believe that & a couple of players in that game think the same way but its not fair to mention their names

Now that's a first, someone blaming an opposition player for getting suspended on why they didn't win a premiership.

[Macca19]

this is from memory but didn't a north player hit/bumped a port player in a prelim final in the late 80's & broke his jaw ? i think & i could be wrong but was it d.jarman/r.smith ? i remember the collision but i cant remember who the players were

I remember that one as I almost got killed by Port supporters after that incident. It was the 1990 Prelim, DJ's last league game for us, I could be wrong but I don't think the jaw was broken but I do remember a Port player camped under the ball and DJ coming screaming in and wiping him out. The game was already lost by then so it added a bit of entertainment.
As the Port player was having convulsions and looked like he was entering a coma I stood up in the small scoreboard pocket outnumbered about 100/1 by Port supporters and screamed "Top Tackle DJ!!!". The looks from the Port supporters were priceless, the people that were there with me that day had no idea how I got out alive.

It was Hutton. Poor bloke was on the end of a few nasty hip and shoulders like that in his career. You know its bad when they are knocked out and their arms are waving in the air.

I think bayman was talking about Klomp breaking Rohan Smiths jaw with the biggest outstretched elbow youll ever see while Port was 15 goals up in the 2nd quarter of the 1990 Prelim.

Antrobus stomping on John Harveys back probably wasnt the best thing ive seen either.

Whether it was because of West players starting it or not...Sims hit is still the worst thing ive seen on a football field.

Granger was a thug...but from all the footage ive seen, damn he could play. Could have been one of the top CHFs of that time if he wasnt such a nutter.

Peter Green started a few all in brawls in a few Centrals v Port games in the mid 90s. I remember at Alberton in 95, him running to stand next to Darryl Poole before the match and king-hitting him from behind. Started an all-in before the siren. Port came out and kicked the first 4 or 5 goals in the first 3 minutes of the match from memory.

[Punk Rooster]

I remember at Alberton in 95, him running to stand next to Darryl Poole before the match and king-hitting him from behind.

If anyone ever deserved to be king hit from behind, it was Darryl poole. My day just got infinately better!

[Magpiespower]

One of the most savage games I've ever seen was Port v Glenelg game at the Bay, 1983.

It was a bloodbath.

Re: 1994 Grand Final. Eagles were up by six goals in the first quarter and IIRC it was Timmy Ginever who sucked in the Eagles player with a short jab to the ribs. Of course, the Eagles player retaliated and gave away the free kick. Two goals just before quarter-time kept us in the game when it looked like the Eagles were going to kick us off Footy Park.

But we absolutely dominated after half-time. And if it wasn't for inaccurate kicking in the third quarter - 2.7 - the final margin would have been closer to ten goals.

Still get chills up my spine thinking about that last quarter.

[Pseudo]

I also question Sims getting 10 games for one punch when a West player held Krieg (a very fair ball player) down in the 3rd quarter on the grandstand wing and proceeded to punch him 12 times to the head with Krieg having no way to defend himself. All captured on video. I think that player got 3 games!

Three reasons: Sims' record, the fact that Simpson was stretchered off, and the publicity the incident generated.

From memory there were 13 reports in that match - right?

[Pseudo]

One of the most savage games I've ever seen was Port v Glenelg game at the Bay, 1983.

It was a bloodbath.

I have some footage of that match (the play, not the fights). All I can remember offhand is Ray Huppatz having circles run around him by Ralph Sewer. Glenelg won by plenty, right?

[Booney]

From all of the above posts,I think one thing is clear.Screw with Port and you will lose!

[Magpiespower]

Glenelg won by plenty, right?

83 points, if my memory serves me correct.

[stan]

From all of the above posts,I think one thing is clear.Screw with Port and you will lose!

The Port of old Perhaps, but only the supporters are scary these days.