Abbott/Liberal Govt Watch

[Q.]

China are introducing a carbon emissions trading scheme though.

We emit over four times as much carbon per capita than China, and are a nation with one of the strongest economies in the world, yet we still refuse to make changes.

[Psyber]

China are introducing a carbon emissions trading scheme though.
We emit over four times as much carbon per capita than China, and are a nation with one of the strongest economies in the world, yet we still refuse to make changes.

Yes, but I'd still argue a trading scheme will not by itself reduce emissions, just add a cost.
The cost may eventually push change but not fast - if we want change we should drive it actively.

If we embraced the French solution and we could reduce our CO2 emissions down to 90gm per KWh of energy generated as they have done.
But instead we are following Denmark's lead where 650gm per KWh is the result.

[redandblack]

At last!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-22/c ... ng/2806640

[straight talker]

what we do will not make one iota of a difference, like i have said before if the PM was fair dinkum there would be no concessions to lead and zinc smelters,petrol,farmers,coal mines,power stations.

[Q.]

It will make a difference. It forces a shift toward efficient carbon use and pumps funding into renewable energy development and implementation. Taking the initiative on tackling atmospheric pollution has a positive global impact.

It puts us on a path to reduce CO2e over time:

[straight talker]

ok it will make a difference!! did you get this graph from mr Flannery or mr Garnaut?? or maybe Al Gore??

[Q.]

ok it will make a difference!! did you get this graph from mr Flannery or mr Garnaut?? or maybe Al Gore??

It's actually from an article in The Economist, imploring the British government to adopt a similar carbon pricing scheme.

[straight talker]

ok the econimist i guess thats a paper who is a bit like the Australian is towards the Labor party!? i bet the British government dont adobt anything like this disaster.

[Q.]

[redandblack]

Q, we all know The Economist is a Marxist propoganda sheet

Your picture? QED.

[dedja]

LOL, classic ... I blame the education system

[Psyber]

ok it will make a difference!! did you get this graph from mr Flannery or mr Garnaut?? or maybe Al Gore??

It's actually from an article in The Economist, imploring the British government to adopt a similar carbon pricing scheme.

It does look like the projection of an optimist to me.
Up here in the cold hills my recent experience is that rising energy costs have driven the locals back to burning any wood they can scrounge free rather than pay for electric or LPG heating.
And that is before the Carbon Tax even bites, so that sort of response needs to be factored into the graph.
After a $1450.00 electricity bill last winter I'm tempted too, but I'm trying just heating one section of the house this winter.

Again, nuclear France 90gm of CO2 per KWh of energy produced, versus Denmark's 650 gm CO2 per KWh, as renewable sources replace coal use gradually there..

[redandblack]

From The Age;

Unquestionably, Abbott has been a runaway success with his campaign against the government's carbon pricing regime. Public support for the government and Gillard has all but collapsed. But this success has not come without a great potential cost for Abbott should he win office. Since he became leader in December 2009, he has reduced himself almost to a political parody - a politician who can rail and complain and harness community anger and generate fear but himself appears to stand for hardly anything, including the words from his own mouth.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politi ... z1SswkpHNf

[straight talker]

prices rise again!! we will sort out inflation!! ala the lying incompetent Labor party. promises broken again??

[GWW]

prices rise again!!

Really Wow thats never happened with any other Govt before

Might need to re-write the laws of economics if prices actually rise

[straight talker]

Labor told the people of Australia that the price of inflation would be kept low?? now the price rise has begun and the consumer will be paying big time. More Labor spin!!

[dedja]

Inflation rate from 1973 to present day ...

[straight talker]

dont think you would have todays in there!!?? seeing as tho you are good at bringing up graphs is there any chance you could get hold of the temperature of the world for the last 50 years and the sea level??

[dedja]

Labor told the people of Australia that the price of inflation would be kept low?? now the price rise has begun and the consumer will be paying big time. More Labor spin!!

But didn't little Johnny make the same promise?

You see, the cancer is on both sides of the political divide!

[straight talker]

not sure but if you say so! i know he took the gst to an election and let the people of Australia decide!? unlike juliar and her carbon tax??