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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:26 pm

After listening to Craig's press conference, I'd sack the Crows' stats man. Craig said they were ahead at half time in competed ball. All I saw was Saints guys like Goddard and Dal Santo running around on their own for the entire half. A Crows tackle was a rarity.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby southee » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:28 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:After listening to Craig's press conference, I'd sack the Crows' stats man. Craig said they were ahead at half time in competed ball. All I saw was Saints guys like Goddard and Dal Santo running around on their own for the entire half. A Crows tackle was a rarity.


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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby CK » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:35 pm

Sometimes the person under the pump needs to be the one to admit the message is no longer getting through and make the call on themselves. That said, the squad is not a top eight one, no matter how hard many Crows fans work to convince themselves that it is. There are a number of good, honest, hard workers there that won't be able to lift themselves often enough to lift this team into finals contention.

Biggest problem facing the club with trading, is that a number of their higher echelon players need to be retained as a core (Thompson, Tippett, Jacobs with 2011 form), and the next level down simply wouldn't attract enough interest from other clubs to be able to be traded for like, or better players (Reilly, Knights). The position the club is currently in has been looming dangerously for a couple of years now but the club has refused to acknowledge it - the retirements last year were always going to happen close together, yet there didn't seem to be enough of a contingency plan put into place to bring in enough established players to partially replace the experience. This results in the gap between the top level (the top 8 or so) and the 18-30 ranked players on the list being much bigger than most clubs.

Most opposition clubs now simply double or triple team Tippett every time they go into attack, knowing that there just aren't enough supporting goalkickers that will hurt them. A very predictable approach into attack and it plays into the hands of defences that spread quickly to rebound. This list may still not have bottomed out yet, and if Neil Craig can't lift that situation, then the time may have come for him to make that call.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby tiger07andbeyond » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:42 pm

Paul Roos or Leon Cameron on Monday
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:25 am

tiger07andbeyond wrote:Paul Roos or Leon Cameron on Monday


What would Leon Cameron be able to do that Craig hasn't. Roos? Pfft. Dream on. The Adelaide Football Club is now officially a minnow. The days of snaffling a Blight are long gone.

I know, let's bring back Ayresy! What pisses me off is that now that Norwood has finally extracted the digits this souless football Franchaise is going to nick our coach while Centrals march on.

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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Gozu » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:30 am

Sojourner wrote:Think Stephen Trigg has just as much to answer for over where the current state of the club is at. If Neil Craig has to be stood down from the club over it then Trigg should also be stood down likewise.

There appears to be no consequences at the AFC for playing a poor standard of football, its time hard decisions were made instead of always taking the soft option and doing nothing at all.


Agreed. Trigg and the other time-servers infecting the club need to be given the boot. They're just as much to blame as Neil Craig is. Craig should've been sacked years ago which was more than obvious last year when he/they hung to old guys way past their best too gutless to call time on their careers leading to that 0-6 start.

The Crows are just way too conservative and the only period of the club's past with anything about it was under Blight because he had the balls to make the hard decisions and clear out the dead wood. They're too gutless to sack Craig when in reality they should all disappear.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Media Park » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:42 am

Well they were interviewing Bickley in the coaches box early on.

I think the saving grace is that if they make a play for Clarkson, or elevate the impressive Bassett (which would seriously give me a hard on), or for that matter any person who is currently coaching at AFL or SANFL level, then a Bickley type person would only be doing it for the remainder of the season that is, by all aspects, finished.

Let Bickley do it, I mean, it can't really get worse can it? And get a ready-made coach for next season.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby stan » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:46 am

Sack craig, well I believe the crows do have the makings of a decent side but seem to deliver nothing. This means the coach cant seem to get the best of his players, hence time for a change. But do not replace craig with either of the 2 dead heads in Bickley or Hart. Todd Viney would been a decent choice if he didnt leave, hence I would suggest Roo's would be an ideal target.

Either way the crows need someone from the outside. Maybe even Sanderson. I would say malthouse but un my opinion he is no chance of wanting to come to Adelaide.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:35 am

CK wrote:Sometimes the person under the pump needs to be the one to admit the message is no longer getting through and make the call on themselves. That said, the squad is not a top eight one, no matter how hard many Crows fans work to convince themselves that it is. There are a number of good, honest, hard workers there that won't be able to lift themselves often enough to lift this team into finals contention.


CK, this is quite right, and had Craig been only in his 2nd or 3rd year, and inherited this current list, I may have sympathy for him. However, he is in his 8th season at the club, and he can only blame himself for the list he has at his disposal.

The problem I've had with the Crows over the years is a number of their players are over-rated, both within the club, and with the media. A young player comes along, plays a couple of really good games, and suddenly he's a superstar. Craig does not have the ability to recognise talent and to build effective playing lists.

Port Adelaide took too long to sack Mark Williams, they are paying for it, and now it looks as though the Crows are headed down the same path. The club is concerned over dwindling membership numbers, well I know 2 people who will not be renewing their membership in 2012 if Craig is still there, and I imagine there will be many others. Their concern is it appears the Crows just seem intent to roll along, business as usual. They feel if the Crows don't seem to care, then why should I?
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby dedja » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:00 am

Todd Viney ... he'd HTFU that soft squad.

Or ... what's Tommy Hafey doing these days? Get out those adidas tees
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby NO-MERCY » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:09 am

No matter how hard Craig tries, no players are responding to his game plan or structures ( maybe he needs to review his game plan ) but i think its too late, its proven after last nights heavy defeat a change is warranted immediately or they are going to ( along with Port ) embarrass this state even more to what it is currently in the AFL. :oops: :oops:

Sorry Craigy the robots need a fresh face in charge & support staff.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby JK » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:09 am

Didn't sound like Bickley had any idea's last night
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby helicopterking » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:56 am

All I saw was Saints guys like Goddard and Dal Santo running around on their own for the entire half. A Crows tackle was a rarity.[/quote]


Dangerfield: 0 Tackles. Played up forward, no pressure at all inside forward 50
Johncock: 0 Tackles, played in backline,where ball was alot and still didnt register. Zero tackles and 8 kicked on him.
Rutten: 0 Tackles, same as Johncock, without the 8 goals
Reilly: 0 tackles, played in Midfield,maybe a tagger. Not exceptable
Vince: 0 Tackles, played 93% match time,in the midfield for no tackles.
Tambling:1 tackle, played off a back flank,90% game time, backline busy all night. :?

Dont think ive ever seen a side with 5 players not registering a tackle! If you dont lay a tackle,are you even trying?
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby dedja » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:00 am

JK wrote:Didn't sound like Bickley had any idea's last night


wasn't Robinson Crusoe though ...
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Sojourner » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:15 am

Would like to hear from the Coaching staff why Taylor Walker - the one player that can actually kick for goal was not given a game and why he has been overlooked a number of times this season?

Walker is one example of a player who with the right coaching would be a much improved player on the Crows list, yet considering the way he is constantly overlooked its more than likely he will be seeking a trade at the end of this season.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby JK » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:18 am

They could have had Lockett, Coleman and Dunstall last night and still weren't going to score much .. Their performance in the middle and back 3rd of the park was deplorable
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:05 pm

Doesnt help when your captain is one of the worst players in the comp
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Dirko » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:33 pm

helicopterking wrote:If you dont lay a tackle,are you even trying?


For sure. There was a Carlton game a few weeks ago when Mitch Robinson didn't lay a tackle and he was just about our best.

The reason, you can't tackle when your first to the ball......
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby Psyber » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:35 pm

Sojourner wrote:Would like to hear from the Coaching staff why Taylor Walker - the one player that can actually kick for goal was not given a game and why he has been overlooked a number of times this season?

Walker is one example of a player who with the right coaching would be a much improved player on the Crows list, yet considering the way he is constantly overlooked its more than likely he will be seeking a trade at the end of this season.
He doesn't fit into the style and can't play that game.
In another set up he may develop into something, but I wouldn't want to rely on him as the one forward target either now.
He seems to be a one style player at this stage of his development.
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Re: who will replace neil craig & when ?

Postby LMA » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:09 pm

Jim05 wrote:Doesnt help when your captain is one of the worst players in the comp


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