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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby locky801 » Sun May 08, 2011 7:24 pm

said now for many year the Crows wouldn't win a premiership or make a grand final under Craig, decent coaches will always outcoach a sports scientist, and I say that withot being a Crows or any AFL side supporter and what I saw today was probably the worst i have seen. Think they play the Suns next week, know who my money will be on
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby the bearded wonder » Sun May 08, 2011 10:34 pm

Nervous week ahead for Adelaide fans. They laughed and rejoiced at Ports loss to the Suns but must now be realising it could happen to them. I know a couple of Port supporters who are waiting to pounce.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Pup » Sun May 08, 2011 10:59 pm

the bearded wonder wrote:Nervous week ahead for Adelaide fans. They laughed and rejoiced at Ports loss to the Suns but must now be realising it could happen to them. I know a couple of Port supporters who are waiting to pounce.


Crows will beat Gold Coast.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby whufc » Sun May 08, 2011 11:01 pm

Pup wrote:
the bearded wonder wrote:Nervous week ahead for Adelaide fans. They laughed and rejoiced at Ports loss to the Suns but must now be realising it could happen to them. I know a couple of Port supporters who are waiting to pounce.


Crows will beat Gold Coast.


Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby sapaul » Sun May 08, 2011 11:24 pm

whufc wrote:Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.


Won't put in another perfomance like that this year.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Brad » Sun May 08, 2011 11:29 pm

One of the worst if not the worst Crows performance I have ever seen today.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby dedja » Sun May 08, 2011 11:31 pm

can't wait for his video highlights this week ... #-o
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby whufc » Sun May 08, 2011 11:44 pm

sapaul wrote:
whufc wrote:Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.


Won't put in another perfomance like that this year.


you hope!

In all seriousness what star players do the Crows have in their side. How many blokes are genuinely very classy, gun, in the top 50 AFL players. Realisitcally im struggling to see any.

Even the Kangaroos have a Brent Harvey, Richmond have a Jack Riewoldt, Brisbane have Simon Black, Jonathon Brown, West Coast have Cox.

Like has been said before the Adelaide media really hypes up Crows players despite the fact some are very average.

Even the Captain Van Berlo would be lucky to be in the top 50-75 players in the AFL.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Gingernuts » Mon May 09, 2011 10:35 am

whufc wrote:
sapaul wrote:
whufc wrote:Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.


Won't put in another perfomance like that this year.


you hope!

In all seriousness what star players do the Crows have in their side. How many blokes are genuinely very classy, gun, in the top 50 AFL players. Realisitcally im struggling to see any.

Even the Kangaroos have a Brent Harvey, Richmond have a Jack Riewoldt, Brisbane have Simon Black, Jonathon Brown, West Coast have Cox.

Like has been said before the Adelaide media really hypes up Crows players despite the fact some are very average.

Even the Captain Van Berlo would be lucky to be in the top 50-75 players in the AFL.


We only have 1 at the moment, Kurt Tippett. He was out of form last season but anyone who managed to sit through yesterday's game would've seen a bloke who is back on deck, had an extraordinary game for a forward in a team that got flogged by 15 goals.

He is the reason I believe we will win comfortably against the GC this weekend. If the supply is there from the midfield, then I don't believe GC has anyone who can stop him.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby cripple » Mon May 09, 2011 10:59 am

I was sitting on the 50m line at the punt rd end yesterday and the crows were silent, lacked energy and always followed thier player to the contest. Melbourne on the other hand had plenty of talk and run and players willing to stand up and be counted. Not the fault of the coach IMO if the players aren't there on the day and willing to put in the hard yards to at least compete one on one with their opponents.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Booney » Mon May 09, 2011 10:59 am

sapaul wrote:
whufc wrote:Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.


Won't put in another perfomance like that this year.


Until you play Port and get run over by a very powerful side. ;)
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby TEX07 » Mon May 09, 2011 1:06 pm

whufc wrote:
sapaul wrote:
whufc wrote:Not if they put in a repeat performance of todays effort.


Won't put in another perfomance like that this year.


you hope!

In all seriousness what star players do the Crows have in their side. How many blokes are genuinely very classy, gun, in the top 50 AFL players. Realisitcally im struggling to see any.

Even the Kangaroos have a Brent Harvey, Richmond have a Jack Riewoldt, Brisbane have Simon Black, Jonathon Brown, West Coast have Cox.

Like has been said before the Adelaide media really hypes up Crows players despite the fact some are very average.

Even the Captain Van Berlo would be lucky to be in the top 50-75 players in the AFL.


We currently dont have any gun players as you mention. They are a very young side, have never really bottomed out to get the draft picks. So no, they do not currently have any guns. However, when you get another season into a Dangerfield, Sloan, Tippett, Walker, Davis etc they will have some quality footballers there. I know we wont play another game like we did on the weekend. From memory I cant remember a game where the Crows played as bad as they did yesterday, so many players played poorly, just wont happen every week.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby lebron » Mon May 23, 2011 1:12 pm

No plan b again! Why does everyone, members, media and players and especially the scientist himself, accept that they stuck with collingwood for over 3 quarters and thats a good effort? No its not. Football is 4 quarters and you need to play it out! I hate the Adelaide media. I remember Choco losing a game in similar style, hounded over it!

And FWIW, dont argue that I should worry about my team, as I was a Crows fan until i was fed up with mediocrity, and i dont even like the bulldogs that much!
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Footy Smart » Mon May 23, 2011 1:24 pm

lebron wrote:No plan b again! Why does everyone, members, media and players and especially the scientist himself, accept that they stuck with collingwood for over 3 quarters and thats a good effort? No its not. Football is 4 quarters and you need to play it out! I hate the Adelaide media. I remember Choco losing a game in similar style, hounded over it!

And FWIW, dont argue that I should worry about my team, as I was a Crows fan until i was fed up with mediocrity, and i dont even like the bulldogs that much!



:lol: Fed up with mediocrity yet you started supporting WB :oops: AFC is better for it Lebron....
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby KEYDEFENDER » Mon May 23, 2011 1:37 pm

As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby Footy Smart » Mon May 23, 2011 1:43 pm

KEYDEFENDER wrote:As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.



Yeah i noticed it as well, could be a confidence thing. I thought the Key Defenders in Truck, Sellar and L Thompson did well on dangerous big men in Cloke and Dawes
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby RoosterMarty » Mon May 23, 2011 2:49 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
lebron wrote:No plan b again! Why does everyone, members, media and players and especially the scientist himself, accept that they stuck with collingwood for over 3 quarters and thats a good effort? No its not. Football is 4 quarters and you need to play it out! I hate the Adelaide media. I remember Choco losing a game in similar style, hounded over it!

And FWIW, dont argue that I should worry about my team, as I was a Crows fan until i was fed up with mediocrity, and i dont even like the bulldogs that much!



:lol: Fed up with mediocrity yet you started supporting WB :oops: AFC is better for it Lebron....


As bad as the Crows were against Melbourne I think WB were worse vs WCE. 20 goals and 0.0 in the 4th quarter. :oops:
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby JK » Mon May 23, 2011 2:56 pm

KEYDEFENDER wrote:As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.


It's my biggest pet hate in football .. I know there are times when it's acceptable to spoil from a marking position, but it's in the minority IMHO. When a player can clearly get their two hands to the ball first then FFS mark the bloody thing - Supposed to be elite footballers so an overhead mark shouldn't be out of the question.

That obviously doesn't just apply to the Crows, but IMHO it gave up two crucial last quarter goals to Collingwood yesterday.
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby mighty hounds » Mon May 23, 2011 3:17 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
KEYDEFENDER wrote:As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.


It's my biggest pet hate in football .. I know there are times when it's acceptable to spoil from a marking position, but it's in the minority IMHO. When a player can clearly get their two hands to the ball first then FFS mark the bloody thing - Supposed to be elite footballers so an overhead mark shouldn't be out of the question.

That obviously doesn't just apply to the Crows, but IMHO it gave up two crucial last quarter goals to Collingwood yesterday.


Being a defender myself, I only two handed punch if I'm going to do it over the boundary line, any other time its a spoil to a team mate thats hopefully where he should be front and square or its a mark. I was shaking my head the amount of times the Crows done it when not needed and it cost them goals at crucial stages of the match
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Re: bye bye neil craig

Postby JK » Mon May 23, 2011 3:20 pm

mighty hounds wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
KEYDEFENDER wrote:As a 'keydefender' is shits me why Adelaides backline goes for the double handed punch. Surley if you can get 2 hands to the ball you can mark it. This results in a turnover.. which is why they drill these players to tackle and create one. I counted 3 goals resulting from a Crows clearing punch when a mark was a safe and achievable option. I know thats why they did not loose the game.. but little things like this can stop the flow.


It's my biggest pet hate in football .. I know there are times when it's acceptable to spoil from a marking position, but it's in the minority IMHO. When a player can clearly get their two hands to the ball first then FFS mark the bloody thing - Supposed to be elite footballers so an overhead mark shouldn't be out of the question.

That obviously doesn't just apply to the Crows, but IMHO it gave up two crucial last quarter goals to Collingwood yesterday.


I can understand it if you know your going to be outnumbered in the air and on the deck, or like you said if the prime purpose is to create a stoppage. But the number of times I've seen it happen at AFL level (and even SANFL level from AFL listed players) when a player is 3rd man up and has a teammate holding his opponent at bay is just crazy IMHO.

No doubt I wouldn't know as much as the coaches out there, but I really dont understand why it happens so often.
Being a defender myself, I only two handed punch if I'm going to do it over the boundary line, any other time its a spoil to a team mate thats hopefully where he should be front and square or its a mark. I was shaking my head the amount of times the Crows done it when not needed and it cost them goals at crucial stages of the match
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