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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:39 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
What a crock. Cat fans don't care that Boris and Mackie are South Australians or that Smiffy is a West Australian. Once they put on the Blue Hoops we love em.

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Top post REB. Doesn't even enter my mind where Swans players have come from. Says more about the old South Aussie "chip on your shoulder" mentality.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby stan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:42 am

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stan wrote:Probably says plenty for SA football at the moment. Both teams are rabbles!


At least neither have ever 'won' a wooden spoon.


That maybe true sapaul, but I'm sure this will be the year for either of the SA teams and then we'll get to see that fantastic chip on your shoulder grow again.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby stan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:47 am

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stan wrote:Probably says plenty for SA football at the moment. Both teams are rabbles!


At least neither have ever 'won' a wooden spoon.


IMO it says nothing about SA football, the crows and power are quite simply 2 AFL clubs that are based in SA

And that IMO is part of the reason there is falling support for both teams. The sides have alot more non south aussies than ever before and there is now no sense of pride in following your team.


You best get back to your soaps old friend because thats about where you belong. "No sense of pride in following your team" are you actually serious?
I have followed my team since fricken the sandwhich played, and there were and still are plenty of victorian, south australian, NSW and few Tassie and Qlds thrown in there as well.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby stan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:53 am

Just back on topic for a sec, Port season is pretty much where alot of people thought they would be. If you ask some of there supporters they were expecting to be bottom 3. At the moment thats where there list is at. Saturday showed that at times there good, but when it came down to it they did not have the great players like an Ablett or a Rischetilli at the top end of there list. I believe they will get better as the season gets on but they will struggle, and Primus will probably keep blooding kids for the entire season.
For example Pittard is a ripper, O'Shea goes alright, young Stewart has plenty of up side, Gray and Hartlett are getting games into them and Boak will contine to lead there midfield. so really they have plenty to get out of this season. The only problem is no decent draft picks at the end.
West Coast were there last season, Port are there now. The Gold Coast maybe in this positing this season but thats going to last on a short while before they explode and become the force that big Dimi wants.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:34 am

stan wrote:For example Pittard is a ripper


I don't want to be too hard on the kid because I haven't seen much of him, and he hasn't played much senior footy. However, he made some of the worst blunders imaginable in that finals term, and on another occasion he took the soft option in a contest, choosing to throw his arm out to gather the ball rather than get his body over it. He'd need to improve on this.

I honestly feel Port are in the same position the Hawks found themselves in the late 1990s-early 2000s. We had been successful but lost our way.

What I believe we did wrong was live in our own little coccoon, ignoring the rest of the football world as it developed around us. We continued to do things the Hawthorn way, coaches Peter Knights, Ken Judge, Peter Schwab .. all Hawthorn people from a successful era, and we were confident they would restore former glories. They didn't. One day we woke up and realised the world had changed, and we hadn't changed with it.

The thing we needed is what we got. Someone from outside the club with fresh ideas, new directions, a proverbial kick in the pants, etc. I feel Port have fallen into the same trap. The time has come for the Power to break free of previous glories and take a quantum leap into the brave new world of AFL football.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Barto » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:40 am

As was pointed out in the commentary, one of the senior players should've gone down to take the pressure kicks rather than leave it to a young bloke with 3 games under his belt. Feel bad for Pittard because he has to wear that now when he should've been backed up.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby JK » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:51 am

Barto wrote:As was pointed out in the commentary, one of the senior players should've gone down to take the pressure kicks rather than leave it to a young bloke with 3 games under his belt. Feel bad for Pittard because he has to wear that now when he should've been backed up.


He'll be right, Stewy Dew went through a similar thing .. Spot on about the senior players shirking responsibility though, thats the real issue
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Barto » Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:56 am

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Barto wrote:As was pointed out in the commentary, one of the senior players should've gone down to take the pressure kicks rather than leave it to a young bloke with 3 games under his belt. Feel bad for Pittard because he has to wear that now when he should've been backed up.


He'll be right, Stewy Dew went through a similar thing .. Spot on about the senior players shirking responsibility though, thats the real issue


As long as Port doesn't turn into a black hole of talent like Freo did for years. Young players with potential being turned into absolute spuds only to see the ones that managed to get traded out of there turn into semi decent footballers.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby sapaul » Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:22 am

stan wrote:That maybe true sapaul, but I'm sure this will be the year for either of the SA teams and then we'll get to see that fantastic chip on your shoulder grow again.


I've never had a chip on my shoulder but neither Adelaide or Port will finish bottom this year Stanley.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby stan » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:48 pm

sapaul wrote:
stan wrote:That maybe true sapaul, but I'm sure this will be the year for either of the SA teams and then we'll get to see that fantastic chip on your shoulder grow again.


I've never had a chip on my shoulder but neither Adelaide or Port will finish bottom this year Stanley.


Ok Pauly I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:06 pm

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sapaul wrote:
stan wrote:Probably says plenty for SA football at the moment. Both teams are rabbles!


At least neither have ever 'won' a wooden spoon.


IMO it says nothing about SA football, the crows and power are quite simply 2 AFL clubs that are based in SA

And that IMO is part of the reason there is falling support for both teams. The sides have alot more non south aussies than ever before and there is now no sense of pride in following your team.


What a crock. Cat fans don't care that Boris and Mackie are South Australians or that Smiffy is a West Australian. Once they put on the Blue Hoops we love em.

Thats because the Victorians have been pinching players from around the country for years. Has never been part of the SA footy culture.
What about the kids that grow up in this state barracking for either SA team knowing that if by some chance they are lucky enough to have the talent to play AFL they will more than likely not be playing for the team they love, thus the passion for AFL is slowly being wiped away and it will be a business with free trade.
Just maybe one day we will hear an AFL player say i play for the cats but i am a port fan. Not really any different to the guy thats sells Jacobs Creek wines but would rather drink Penfolds.
Paasion is leaving the game and this is why supporters are coming back to the SANFL where you feel you have some ownership of your club and can watch young Johnny come through the ranks and play league footy for the club he has barracked for all his life.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:18 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Thats because the Victorians have been pinching players from around the country for years. Has never been part of the SA footy culture.
What about the kids that grow up in this state barracking for either SA team knowing that if by some chance they are lucky enough to have the talent to play AFL they will more than likely not be playing for the team they love, thus the passion for AFL is slowly being wiped away and it will be a business with free trade.
Just maybe one day we will hear an AFL player say i play for the cats but i am a port fan. Not really any different to the guy thats sells Jacobs Creek wines but would rather drink Penfolds.
Paasion is leaving the game and this is why supporters are coming back to the SANFL where you feel you have some ownership of your club and can watch young Johnny come through the ranks and play league footy for the club he has barracked for all his life.


Mark Dreher, Neville Roberts, Tim Evans, Anthony Harvey, Chris and James Gowans and many others all say hello. If you think that players only move one way you are kidding yourself. The only culture is FOOTBALL culture and that culture is get the best players available.

Did I care that Neville Roberts was a Victorian or Neil Balme was a Western Australian? I didn't matter squat because we won a couple of premierships with those blokes. The only reason 'passion' is leaving the AFL is that Adelaide and the Power both suck. Any football club in the land will always lose bandwagonners when they start losing. Perhaps you're one of those.

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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:20 pm

If you have a better look REB i support neither of these teams
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:26 pm

daysofourlives wrote:If you have a better look REB i support neither of these teams


My apologies for that. It still doesn't make Neville Roberts a South Australian.

Seriously though days..it doesn't matter jack shit what team the player used to barrack for. Are you seriously saying that if I cross the white line with a Power jumper on (and I'm a chance judging by recent events) that I'm not going to show passion for the game or the jumper because I barracked for the Leggies my whole life? You are drawing a very long bow there my friend.

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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:29 pm

Do you think Gazza still barracks for Geelong?
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Jim05 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:30 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Do you think Gazza still barracks for Geelong?

Always will its in his blood
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:33 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Do you think Gazza still barracks for Geelong?


Totally irrelevant. We all know why Gazza did what he did. You are talking about passion and then bringing in business decisions to support your weak arguement. You are saying that a player's lack of passion (clearly not a factor with Cashblett) is going to affect a supporters passion. My passion is for my football club, not for those coaches or players who no longer wish to represent us.

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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Barto » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:36 pm

Jim05 wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Do you think Gazza still barracks for Geelong?

Always will its in his blood


In the DNA apparently.
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:44 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Do you think Gazza still barracks for Geelong?


Totally irrelevant. We all know why Gazza did what he did. You are talking about passion and then bringing in business decisions to support your weak arguement. You are saying that a player's lack of passion (clearly not a factor with Cashblett) is going to affect a supporters passion. My passion is for my football club, not for those coaches or players who no longer wish to represent us.

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Perhaps you are right to a certain extent.
The current captains of the SA AFL clubs are both from WA, for the 1st time in both clubs history, there are also no absloute gun SA players (or from anywhere else for that matter) in either side thus reducing the passion for SA fans.
The likes of roo, mcleod, goodwin, edwards, primus, wanganeen. tredrea, jarman are gone, there is nothing to get excited about for SA fans. For along time at the start of both these clubs there was a big percentage of SA bred players.
Yes in SANFL history there has been a couple interstaters per team, but nothing like the percentage in the current AFL teams
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Re: Port Adelaide season 2011

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:55 pm

Bloody good points days. Who are the best SA players? It would be an intersting exercise to compile a current state of origin team that's for sure.

At Geelong we've got Enright, Mackie, Varcoe and Menzel (I think that's about it) with probably only Enright of that lot being a walk up start.

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